Map Thread XXII

Just refining my little Weimar TL map in Worlda. This time in the early 60s.
So what happend to Japan?

A civil war when the war in China finally turned against the military? If thats the case then I'm assuming the democratic anti-militarist won and there doing a whole "slow withdraw" from Korea or trying to keep Korea as a Dominion like Britain is doing.
As for conflict you have two major flash points.
The Chinese-Soviet Boarder and the Soviet-Polish Boarder
 
Nice, I like it the map (though not a biggest fan of that leaf? laurel? quill? in the canton. love the stripes tho). I asume this was an alternate America that had an alternate Civil War (hence the partition of Virginia and the renaming of its mainland)?
The flag was was minute. It’s an oak leaf, but this idea is just the “north” becomes independent from the British and has goofy borders from that
 
Many people here have probably already seen the map of jefferson's plan for the western states
It did not pan out, of course (what do you mean you've never heard of a state called Cherronesus?)
But what if it did? And what it just did not stop panning out?
Behold! Jefferson's America, or "How I learned to stop worrying and love the quadripoint"
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This is 70 states if you're wondering, including Alaska and Hawaii that gives us 72 stars on the flag.
 
Many people here have probably already seen the map of jefferson's plan for the western states
It did not pan out, of course (what do you mean you've never heard of a state called Cherronesus?)
But what if it did? And what it just did not stop panning out?
Behold! Jefferson's America, or "How I learned to stop worrying and love the quadripoint"
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This is 70 states if you're wondering, including Alaska and Hawaii that gives us 72 stars on the flag.
Georgia is like "I don't feel so good, Mr President".
 
So what happend to Japan?

A civil war when the war in China finally turned against the military? If thats the case then I'm assuming the democratic anti-militarist won and there doing a whole "slow withdraw" from Korea or trying to keep Korea as a Dominion like Britain is doing.
As for conflict you have two major flash points.
The Chinese-Soviet Boarder and the Soviet-Polish Boarder
Nah, Second Sino-Japanese war started just like in OTL. The difference being thanks to no European theater that after a while more and more countries put sanctions on Japan, as well as sending weapons to the Chinese (Germany, the USSR and the UK). Which resulted to a slight border alternation in favour of China.

Fast foward during the early 50s. A war ready and very jingoist China started a surprise offensive against Manchuria, starting the third and last Sino-Japanese war.
Just before the Chinese crossed the border to Korea and Japan actually using biochemical weapons, the League of Nations intervened.

The end result being to borders ending up like after the first Sino-Japanese war, with Port Arthur remaining part of Japan.
Japan would have to bear the cost of admitting every refugee the Chinese deemed as "Alien occupies" and "traitors to the nation". So every Japanese, a good amount of loyal Koreans. But not the loyal Chinese subjects like Puyi... They would suffer a different fate.
Other than that, no reparations were made.

During all this, the situation in Korea got worse.
Refugees, being secondary subjects and Korea growing in industrial importance mixed with a growing trend of Japanese youth just not having it anymore with the old elite, forced the Japanese government to accept Korea as an equal to Japan in terms of internal politics.
The Korean Empire is reestablished, with it's own parliament and internal decision making to most degree, but with foreign affairs still being handled by Tokyo. Imagine the situation being like Austria-Hungary after the Ausgleich.

To be honest, I had in mind that the Soviets and China would at least be cordial partners, since in this TL they gave more aid to the Chinese in the last 2 wars.
Europe meanwhile is out thanks to closer integration of economies, resulting in a ECSC like organization, as well as continued Franco-British guarantees for Poland and an de facto alliance of Germany and Poland.

But I had in mind a big war between China and India.
Well, big in the sense of how the environment there can allow a war to escalate.
 
Who's running the snow in the USSR at the moment?

What's America's standing in the world and what the home front looks like?

What's going on in the Middle East?
Not sure. Maybe Georgy Malenkov after Stalin died around... 57?

Good old isolationism, baby.

the Unification of the Hashemite kingdoms of Iraq, Jordan and Palestine.
As well as some kind of common organisation talks between Yemen and South Arabia.
 
To be honest, I had in mind that the Soviets and China would at least be cordial partners, since in this TL they gave more aid to the Chinese in the last 2 wars.
unless your china is communist and even then I'd have to disagree. China and the soviet union have/had major boarder disputes in manchuria and ofcourse the problem over ethnic Mongolions under the USSR and inner-mongolians in china.
India on the other hand has to many internal issues between Muslims and hindus to afford a boarder dispute over mountains along the Kashmir boarder.
 
unless your china is communist and even then I'd have to disagree. China and the soviet union have/had major boarder disputes in manchuria and ofcourse the problem over ethnic Mongolions under the USSR and inner-mongolians in china.
India on the other hand has to many internal issues between Muslims and hindus to afford a boarder dispute over mountains along the Kashmir boarder.
As far as I know in OTL the Chinese basically agreed to Mongolia being an "independent" socialist state after the war. Maybe we would see some small clashes between the two. Not sure about a major war tho.

Well they border disputes are de jure and facto still Indian, so it would have to be China who needs to do the first move.
 
Map released by A24 showing the lines in their upcoming Second American Civil War movie. California and Texas are apparently allies (???) It seems like they don't want to reference current political divides, but the resulting factions are nonsensical. I personally preferred my speculative American civil war map with Heinz Doofenschmirtz, Ben Chang, Quentin Trembley, and Gilead. This map is oddly reminiscent of Igor Panarin's balkanized USA map, which similarly divided states along seemingly arbitrary and random lines.

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