I don't believe Brob meant the ruined portion, I think Brob was referring to the horrifically ugly Libeskind Design Museum.
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Oh 'cause I had never seen this particular proposal before and I think it would have been amazing. When I was in New York City off and on in college the Freedom Tower was still a construction site so I am anticipating going to the 9/11 Memorial if (when) I go back to NYC o:
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It's honestly very moving, albeit I'm speaking as someone with no connection to the event myself (hence why we ended up going on the 12th and left the anniversary itself to those it was meaningful to).
I'll be honest, my gut instict with that design is it looks horrifically tacky and the museum part is the least offensive- the rest looks like 'Vegas does the WTC'.
But again I don't actually have a direct connection to it myself, so I'll acknowledge I'm not neessarily the right person to ask about that.
I feel somewhat the same way. I think that any museum should be housed in the "reconstructed facade” building rather than somewhere else (there’s plenty of space in there for several floors). If I were to get rid of anything else in that design, it would be the miniature reconstructions of the towers for the same reason you said. I understand the desire for a “representation” of how things were. The “original” idea of simply rebuilding them on site 1:1 wouldn’t have worked (because the towers were never profitable and couldn’t fill themselves, apparently), though. But this is almost “LegoLand” if you think about it from a certain angle. Perhaps a miniature display of Manhattan as it looked with the WTC complex standing could be on the ground floor of the museum instead. Then instead of the mini towers, that entire footprint could be inscribed with the names of those lost.
I think the best part is not necessarily the map but the textures of it + the flag's etching as well. Really brings it over the top. Good Job!Imaginary country. 16th century France meets Meiji-era Japan. I just let my imagination run free with this one. Enjoy!
Maybe I should actually look at the images in specific detail because I have currently only really been judging the proposal just from the look of the main building u.u
Progress continues! Remember that the map's year is 2073, and POD is in 2023 (no current politics).
I decided to "de-wank" China and remove most of its sphere. The Watsonian reason is that I think predictions of Chinese collapse are risible, but also that its current trajectory could perhaps lead to political sclerosis and dissension between areas more/less aligned with the CPC, and demographic/economic stagnancy. The Doylist reason is that this map/timeline's goal is to contrast brittle and decaying political structures with rising and dynamic ones, and China would go into the former category.
Split up the Philippines on ethnic/tribal/religious lines as well.
I decided to "de-wank" China and remove most of its sphere. The Watsonian reason is that I think predictions of Chinese collapse are risible, but also that its current trajectory could perhaps lead to political sclerosis and dissension between areas more/less aligned with the CPC, and demographic/economic stagnancy. The Doylist reason is that this map/timeline's goal is to contrast brittle and decaying political structures with rising and dynamic ones, and China would go into the former category.
Split up the Philippines on ethnic/tribal/religious lines as well.
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No? Click the link below, you'll find the original authors, I just reposted this here.
The bigger problem was that an exact recreation would be just as vulnerable to another 9/11-type attack. As much as I prefer the Twin Towers to its rather disappointing replacement, drawing up the new 1 WTC from scratch allowed for major security improvements such as the blast-resistant base, reinforced concrete walls and fire-insulated floor slabs. Such radical changes would have been impossible to retrofit into a 1:1 replacement, unfortunately.
Lots of interesting ideas here. Could you elaborate on the mediatizations in the British Raj?
No. It was purely an aesthetic choice with flimsy whimsy tossed at it to explain.
However, one could assume an 1857 situation where things went worse/differently, with a corresponding response from the crown. Maybe? I dunno.
Follow up to this map. It's now Turn 13. I'm playing as China and the Andean Union. Difficulty set to Hard AI.
So, I fully expected the USSA to crash through the CSA pretty quickly, and Canada, too. But both hung on surprisingly long. Long enough for the Spanish Sphere to start landing troops in the south keeping the USSA busy while the Brits slowly pushed back out of Lower Canada. With the Soviets deploying some over in Alaska too, I figured it was a momentary slowdown, but then New York fell and I realized the USSA was in real trouble.
Meanwhile, with France literally surrounded by foes, she was unable to deploy much to assist her smaller allies, and as a result, they folded quickly. The scattered forces opposing the UN in Africa being wiped out piecemeal has given the UN total dominance of the continent. That's trouble for the rest of us. Frees up all those forces and it's steady income we can't touch as (other than the Japanese in the Pacific) the UN own the waves.
Burma has traded hands about 6 times by now, so I suppose the Brits decided to go through Tibet which flanks my two main forces in Kashmir and Burma. India is a beast. Also, if the Philippines were to ever decide to get into the war, I have like nothing defending my coasts. Just kinda hoping the Japanese navy will protect me.
Edit. Just checked. Victory conditions are 500 production points. The UN is sitting at 497. So... gg.
So, I fully expected the USSA to crash through the CSA pretty quickly, and Canada, too. But both hung on surprisingly long. Long enough for the Spanish Sphere to start landing troops in the south keeping the USSA busy while the Brits slowly pushed back out of Lower Canada. With the Soviets deploying some over in Alaska too, I figured it was a momentary slowdown, but then New York fell and I realized the USSA was in real trouble.
Meanwhile, with France literally surrounded by foes, she was unable to deploy much to assist her smaller allies, and as a result, they folded quickly. The scattered forces opposing the UN in Africa being wiped out piecemeal has given the UN total dominance of the continent. That's trouble for the rest of us. Frees up all those forces and it's steady income we can't touch as (other than the Japanese in the Pacific) the UN own the waves.
Burma has traded hands about 6 times by now, so I suppose the Brits decided to go through Tibet which flanks my two main forces in Kashmir and Burma. India is a beast. Also, if the Philippines were to ever decide to get into the war, I have like nothing defending my coasts. Just kinda hoping the Japanese navy will protect me.
Edit. Just checked. Victory conditions are 500 production points. The UN is sitting at 497. So... gg.
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Comintern is 100% going to lose, everyone is either nearly dead or facing serious invasion.
Pact of Steel is doing okay, might be able to survive but not win.
The UN is fighting a seemingly hard war but will win anyways.
Props to Mexico for staying alive!
I was toying with the idea that the mediatizations were Britain’s way of adapting to majority rule by handing off the day-to-day management of their empire to local collaborators (except for the fact that the princely states were supposedly independent protectorates to begin with). Consolidating their borders and dispensing with the ones that were independent in name only wouldn’t be massively different from how in OTL they were subsumed to avoid the massive administrative headache. However, this would achieve that reorganization in a subtler way to create a confederal dominion government with substantial pro-British elements.
My next playthrough I'm taking up the Comintern. We'll see how it goes.