Map Thread XXII


An alternate Great War I where the Germanic Empire formed after the Germanic Revolutions of the early 19th century smashingly defeats the wide coalition of the Rus of Moscow, Lithuania, Poland, the Confederation of Saint Stephen, Moldavia, the United Celtic Kingdom, Brittany, Anjou, the Kingdom of Arlès, Parma, Modena, Lombardy and Venice.

After the harsh Treaty of Copenhague (1920), Lithuania, Poland, the United Celtic Kingdom and Venice are completely annexed to the Germanic Empire. The Rus of Moscow has to cede Lappland, Finland, Estonia, Ingria and Lettland to the Germanic Empire, while the Confederation of Saint Stephen is disbanded and almost all its states are also gobbled by the Germanic Empire, excepting Bosnia and part of Belgrade which are ceded to the neutral ERE; Moldavia is divided between the Germanics, the ERE and the Rus of Kyiv, who also stayed neutral; both Brittany and Anjou are divided between the Germanics and Aquitaine, who withdrew from the coalition early in the War. Aquitaine also receives a part of Arlès, which is divided with the Germanic Empire but the southern part manages to remain independent; Parma and part of Modena and Lombardy is ceded to Tuscany (who as wwll of Aquitaine, withdrew during the War) in exchange of the port of Livorno (now Leghorn) with free passage included, while the rest of Lombardy is annexed to the Germanic Empire and Modena ceded to the Papal States.
 
My submission for MotF 283:


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I like this a lot! That's one of my favourite books and what's happening back on earth stays such a mystery, but we know it isn't good...
 
The level of detail and graphics is incredible but I think the population numbers are too high. Earth itself is expected to top out about 9 Billion in 2046 and then began to decline. Also, I am amazed no group built slower than light ships using planetoids or some other material to launch vessels outside the system.

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I know population projections are being downgraded but I've never seen them as low as in that article. Scary stuff. A levelling off would be good, but decline means my generation will never get to retire...

In a packed solar system there must have been a hundred generations ships launches over the centuries. Either hollow asteroids or "Nauvoo's". none would have had enough time to build a society on the other end and send back anything of significance towards Sol
 
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OT: Not sure if it goes here, otherwise tell me.
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Google map of the Confederate States of America. Early 2000s.

OT2: This is an experiment with GIMP (I'm not so proficient, so i tried)
I feel Orlando would not be a major city without Walt Disney deciding tomhave a second park there. That, and it is amusing to imagine these roads truly being here pin this world, rather that mostly having the railroads and roads trying to keep to their own borders, even if just from back when the countries were at each other’s throats.
 
I feel Orlando would not be a major city without Walt Disney deciding tomhave a second park there. That, and it is amusing to imagine these roads truly being here pin this world, rather that mostly having the railroads and roads trying to keep to their own borders, even if just from back when the countries were at each other’s throats.
You are quite right. This is only an experiment, i'll try to do better next time.
 
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The Vinlandic Commonwealth(Vinlandisk þjóðveldi) is a country in Hesperia[North America] bordered by the Wabanaki Confederacy, the Haudenosaunee Confederacy, and the Republic of Assiniboinia. Vinland‘s history begins with the arrival of a group of Norsemen led by Leif Erikson from Greenland. They founded a settlement called Leifsbudir, which managed to survive long enough for Leif Erikson and his crew to return to Greenland and spread the word. Leifsbudir and the surrounding areas would be settled by mostly Greenlandic and Icelandic Norsemen. More settlers would arrive with the failure of Norse colonization attempts in Greenland and with Iceland’s gradual subjugation by Norway. In particular, Vinland would be settled by Icelanders fleeing Norwegian rule who wished to keep their unique form of government. Vinland would also be settled by Basque and Irish fishermen, Anglo-Saxons fleeing the Norman conquest, Norse pagans fleeing Christianization, and just about anyone who couldn’t make it in Europe and was capable of sailing to the far-away land of wine.

Vinland is unique for its system of government, directly descended from the medieval Icelandic system. Vinland is a direct democracy governed by a sort of parliament called the Allthing. The Allthing is headed by an annually-elected Lawspeaker, and assembles every year to solve various political disputes. Every Vinlandic citizen aged eighteen or above is allowed to attend the Allthing. The Vinlandic people are fiercely protective of their unusual political system, which they argue to be the only democratic system of government in the world. That said, the Vinlandic system is not without its flaws; it can be very inefficient, and in practice most Vinlanders do not attend Allthing meetings. Most actual government in Vinland is done at the local level, with each of the country’s three provinces having its own democratically-elected chieftain, or gothi in Vinlandic, who serves for a single eight-year term unless recalled by the voters. The provinces are given a significant degree of autonomy. Vinland is the only nation in the world with no standing army, with each province instead having its own private militia.

Vinland is a very diverse nation, with the predominate Vinlandic ethnicity(roughly 70% of the population) coexisted with several indigenous peoples. The country is also very religiously diverse, with roughly 60% of Vinlanders being Protestant, 20% being Catholic, 5% being Jewish, and 5% being followers of Norse polytheism, the only significant remaining population in the world. The country’s religious divisions would be a significant cause of conflict during the Vinlandic Civil War(1622-1635), which happened as a result of the Protestant Reformation. The capital of Vinland is the centrally-located city of Ædævé[Ottowa], derived from the Algonquin word adawe, meaning “to trade.” Vinland has three provinces, Ældvinland[Newfoundland], Markland[Quebec and Labrador], and Vestland[Ontario].
 
You are quite right. This is only an experiment, i'll try to do better next time.
No worries, you had already mentioned it was experimental. You managed to get the borders to look like it was from Googles Map which is the first thing most people want.
 
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The Vinlandic Commonwealth(Vinlandisk þjóðveldi) is a country in Hesperia[North America] bordered by the Wabanaki Confederacy, the Haudenosaunee Confederacy, and the Republic of Assiniboinia. Vinland‘s history begins with the arrival of a group of Norsemen led by Leif Erikson from Greenland. They founded a settlement called Leifsbudir, which managed to survive long enough for Leif Erikson and his crew to return to Greenland and spread the word. Leifsbudir and the surrounding areas would be settled by mostly Greenlandic and Icelandic Norsemen. More settlers would arrive with the failure of Norse colonization attempts in Greenland and with Iceland’s gradual subjugation by Norway. In particular, Vinland would be settled by Icelanders fleeing Norwegian rule who wished to keep their unique form of government. Vinland would also be settled by Basque and Irish fishermen, Anglo-Saxons fleeing the Norman conquest, Norse pagans fleeing Christianization, and just about anyone who couldn’t make it in Europe and was capable of sailing to the far-away land of wine.

Vinland is unique for its system of government, directly descended from the medieval Icelandic system. Vinland is a direct democracy governed by a sort of parliament called the Allthing. The Allthing is headed by an annually-elected Lawspeaker, and assembles every year to solve various political disputes. Every Vinlandic citizen aged eighteen or above is allowed to attend the Allthing. The Vinlandic people are fiercely protective of their unusual political system, which they argue to be the only democratic system of government in the world. That said, the Vinlandic system is not without its flaws; it can be very inefficient, and in practice most Vinlanders do not attend Allthing meetings. Most actual government in Vinland is done at the local level, with each of the country’s three provinces having its own democratically-elected chieftain, or gothi in Vinlandic, who serves for a single eight-year term unless recalled by the voters. The provinces are given a significant degree of autonomy. Vinland is the only nation in the world with no standing army, with each province instead having its own private militia.

Vinland is a very diverse nation, with the predominate Vinlandic ethnicity(roughly 70% of the population) coexisted with several indigenous peoples. The country is also very religiously diverse, with roughly 60% of Vinlanders being Protestant, 20% being Catholic, 5% being Jewish, and 5% being followers of Norse polytheism, the only significant remaining population in the world. The country’s religious divisions would be a significant cause of conflict during the Vinlandic Civil War(1622-1635), which happened as a result of the Protestant Reformation. The capital of Vinland is the centrally-located city of Ædævé[Ottowa], derived from the Algonquin word adawe, meaning “to trade.” Vinland has three provinces, Ældvinland[Newfoundland], Markland[Quebec and Labrador], and Vestland[Ontario].
Love! What happened to the 5 Nations League? (Or also here they are six nation?)
 
Love! What happened to the 5 Nations League? (Or also here they are six nation?)
The Haudenosaunee Confederacy(I assume you mean the Iroquois by Five Nations) is a major regional power which sometimes competes with Vinland for influence. The Haudenosaunee, alongside most of Northeastern North America aside from the Christian Vinlanders and Wabanaki, are followers of the Manitouist faith(basically a codification of the Algonquian belief system that developed in response to Vinlandic missionary activities). In general, the earlier introduction of European diseases and technology has led to a greater survival of Native American culture, with just about everything south of Vinland being inhabited by an indigenous civilization.
 
The Haudenosaunee Confederacy(I assume you mean the Iroquois by Five Nations) is a major regional power which sometimes competes with Vinland for influence. The Haudenosaunee, alongside most of Northeastern North America aside from the Christian Vinlanders and Wabanaki, are followers of the Manitouist faith(basically a codification of the Algonquian belief system that developed in response to Vinlandic missionary activities). In general, the earlier introduction of European diseases and technology has led to a greater survival of Native American culture, with just about everything south of Vinland being inhabited by an indigenous civilization.
Cool, i like the Iroquois a lot. Probably my favorite american native nation.
 
The Vinlandic Commonwealth(Vinlandisk þjóðveldi) is a country in Hesperia[North America] bordered by the Wabanaki Confederacy, the Haudenosaunee Confederacy, and the Republic of Assiniboinia.
Great map and backstory!

More of this world please.

Have more Europeans arrived on the east coast?
Have the natives become immune to more European diseases due to exposure and vice versa?
 
Having made or posted a map in a good long while, and this was inspired by a silly Axis&Allies-like game I've been playing.
Some whackado and handwavium allowance, if you please.

No singular major PoD, but various smatterings thereof.
  • More Liberal and Successful Spanish Colonial Relations. Except Mexico & Andes. Them is bitchy. Post-Colonial Americas/Oceania markedly different as a result of a less fragmented Spanish sphere.
  • Successful *Socialist Revolutions abound, for varying reasons and results. Syndicalist US, Egalitarian France, Communist Russia, Futurist Austria, etc. The various shades of Socialism make for very, ah, exuberant Internationals.
  • CSA backlash = Christian States of America, coz Godless Commies and such. Went rather Hard Right in response to Yankee Leftism, but this happened 2-3 decades later than OTL Civil War. Still Racist, but not scary Jim Crow racist.
  • Britain survived similar upheavals, but found her hands too full to exploit the same in others in the interim. Indian mediatisation was particularly harrowing.
  • Portugal and Brazil continue “their“ Empire. Everything is fine here. Thanks, how are you?
  • Benelux has a time, makes some new friends, remembers some old ones, ya know. Vibing.
  • Balkan Wars are fuckin’ rad. A Royalist Savoyard in Athens, a Technocrat Hohenzollern in Sofia, a Luxembourgian Romanov in Belgrade, etc…
  • Ottomans having a *real* weird century or two. *Socialist Syria and Iran have helped on that whole common enemy stuff a bit, amping up the militancy in the meantime.
  • Chinese Existential Crisis something of a French Revolutionary effect. That is, rampant reform and nationalism… a big ol’shake up.
  • Japan pulls a Semi-Meiji, meaning later development and different Russo-Japanese War situation.
  • Berlin Conference... eh. Shut up about butterflies.

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Might do a follow-up with the War Situation as it stands. Been pretty wild.
 
Have more Europeans arrived on the east coast?
Vinland was the only major European colony in North America ITTL, the rest of the continent is mostly native. That said, there has been significant immigration to Vinland; in an effort to boost their initially low population, Vinland accepted just about anybody who couldn’t make it in Europe. Even today, Vinland has extremely lax immigration laws; anyone who lives and pays taxes in Vinland for over a year is automatically considered a citizen.
Have the natives become immune to more European diseases due to exposure and vice versa?
The natives have indeed become immune to European diseases, and just about everything south of Vinland is majority native.
 
Having made or posted a map in a good long while, and this was inspired by a silly Axis&Allies-like game I've been playing.
Some whackado and handwavium allowance, if you please.

No singular major PoD, but various smatterings thereof.
  • More Liberal and Successful Spanish Colonial Relations. Except Mexico & Andes. Them is bitchy. Post-Colonial Americas/Oceania markedly different as a result of a less fragmented Spanish sphere.
  • Successful *Socialist Revolutions abound, for varying reasons and results. Syndicalist US, Egalitarian France, Communist Russia, Futurist Austria, etc. The various shades of Socialism make for very, ah, exuberant Internationals.
  • CSA backlash = Christian States of America, coz Godless Commies and such. Went rather Hard Right in response to Yankee Leftism, but this happened 2-3 decades later than OTL Civil War. Still Racist, but not scary Jim Crow racist.
  • Britain survived similar upheavals, but found her hands too full to exploit the same in others in the interim. Indian mediatisation was particularly harrowing.
  • Portugal and Brazil continue “their“ Empire. Everything is fine here. Thanks, how are you?
  • Benelux has a time, makes some new friends, remembers some old ones, ya know. Vibing.
  • Balkan Wars are fuckin’ rad. A Royalist Savoyard in Athens, a Technocrat Hohenzollern in Sofia, a Luxembourgian Romanov in Belgrade, etc…
  • Ottomans having a *real* weird century or two. *Socialist Syria and Iran have helped on that whole common enemy stuff a bit, amping up the militancy in the meantime.
  • Chinese Existential Crisis something of a French Revolutionary effect. That is, rampant reform and nationalism… a big ol’shake up.
  • Japan pulls a Semi-Meiji, meaning later development and different Russo-Japanese War situation.
  • Berlin Conference... eh. Shut up about butterflies.

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Might do a follow-up with the War Situation as it stands. Been pretty wild.
Is the CSA on the German side?
 
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