It's very poorly located for north American colonies, but South Georgia Island? There's an idea.
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It's very poorly located for north American colonies, but South Georgia Island? There's an idea.
A nationalist callback, or is the POD early enough that it's the original article?
It's meant to be the original. I didn't really flesh out a TL for this - just trying to work on my map-making skills - so elements of this map may seem a trifle, shall we say, "improbable" to the hardcore AH.commer. I don't believe that there's anything that's flat-out "ASB" in it, but there's some stuff that maybe could be classified as "unlikely" to persons who are of a more "strict" attitude than myself.
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Best map I've seen all year-SNIP-
I played mexico in the gfm mod for victoria 2 and decided to make this. The result is a classic paradox "believable worlds" scenario but i really enjoyed the campaign and this resulting map
So, if I have this right:
Britain = Japan
Han and Yan = Germany and Italy
Chu = Britain
Meiguo = USA
UTEC = USSR
Rome = China
Well done with that mapThis is the first of my maps for this month's map contest (there are two required). I haven't even started making the other one, but had so much fun making this one that I thought I'd share it.
In this timeline, East and West swap places, with Roman Empire avoiding dissolution and China never unifying after the fall of Qin. Consequently, constant rivalry between the warring Chinese states leads them to political and technological progress, whereas Europe lags behind, staggering under the weight of imperial bureaucracy. The Roman empire goes through a cycle of civil wars and dynastic changes, much like China did in our timeline. During one of these upheavals Britain emancipates itself from Roman administration and becomes its own feudal kingdom. Meanwhile the Chinese kingdoms, most notably Han and Chu, develop their own identities and eventually become nation states.
Fast forward two thousand years, and the world is in the midst of a Second World War (called the Second All-Heavens War in this timeline). On the one side there are the Axis powers of Han, Yan and Britain; on the other, the allies: Chu, Nippon, Meiguo (Chu’s former colony), Union of Tartar Equalist Councils (a socialist republic established after the fall of the Great Khanate in the First All-Heavens War) and the United Roman Front (a temporary coalition of warring factions, among them the Spartikist Revolutionary Party and the Nationalist Party). United Roman Front puts up a desperate defense against the British invaders, at one point blowing up dikes on the river Rhenus in order to stop their advance. The British, on the other hand, commit acts of unbelievable cruelty against the Romans, whom they consider as inferior people.
The map is a British propaganda poster, aimed at boosting morale of British troops in the ending stages of the war. In fact, at this point war was all but lost for them. War in Asia was coming to an end, with Tartar forces closing in on Han’s capital, Luoyang, and Meiguan nuclear programme being weeks away from developing a new weapon of unseen potential.
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So it's like Rhodesia-Zimbabwe before the settlers lost their power. And natives got majority rule.
I'm usually not one for Ameriscrews, but this one has potential.
I played mexico in the gfm mod for victoria 2 and decided to make this. The result is a classic paradox "believable worlds" scenario but i really enjoyed the campaign and this resulting map
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What if USSR was more interested to expand towards Asia instead Europe
Then it stops being the USSR and more like an alternate PRC. Population is simply too heavily skewed in the Chinese's favour.What if USSR was more interested to expand towards Asia instead Europe
Exactly. It becomes another conquest dynasty, in a way, where power eventually shifts from the conquerors to the natives due to the latter far outnumbering the former.
Actually looks good for some possible future history cyber/post apocalyptic scenario. After the Ukraine defeat and a protracted war or series of wars in the Caucasus, that led to a stalemate, Russia found itself loosing more and more power and influence. Meanwhile the PRC collapses due to inner issues and international pressure.
Eventually, the remnants of both states coalesced and rearranged themselves in this new country of sort, a local power at best and far from stable, but the Sinorussian managed to hold it together like they always do: state control, anti western rethoric and a lot of propaganda.
It could be its own TL
I find this concept of history very fascinating.
Also it is an interesting trope (?) in alternate history.
Cross-posting my MoTM entry.
In this timeline, East and West swap places, with Roman Empire avoiding dissolution and China never unifying after the fall of Qin. Consequently, constant rivalry between the warring Chinese states leads them to political and technological progress, whereas Europe lags behind, staggering under the weight of imperial bureaucracy. The Roman empire goes through a cycle of civil wars and dynastic changes, much like China did in our timeline. During one of these upheavals Britain emancipates itself from Roman administration and becomes its own feudal kingdom. Meanwhile the Chinese kingdoms, most notably Han and Chu, develop their own identities and eventually become nation states.
Fast forward two thousand years, and the world is in the midst of a Second World War (called the Second All-Heavens War in this timeline). On the one side there are the Axis powers of Han, Yan and Britain; on the other, the allies: Chu, Nippon, Meiguo (Chu’s former colony), Union of Tartar Equalist Councils (a socialist republic established after the fall of the Great Khanate in the First All-Heavens War) and the United Roman Front (a temporary coalition of warring factions, among them the Spartikist Revolutionary Party and the Nationalist Party). United Roman Front puts up a desperate defense against the British invaders, at one point blowing up dikes on the river Rhenus in order to stop their advance. The British, on the other hand, commit acts of unbelievable cruelty against the Romans, whom they consider as inferior people.
The map is a British propaganda poster, aimed at boosting morale of British troops in the ending stages of the war. In fact, at this point war was all but lost for them. War in Asia was coming to an end, with Tartar forces closing in on Han’s capital, Luoyang, and Meiguan nuclear programme being weeks away from developing a new weapon of unseen potential.
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In this timeline, West and East swap places, with Roman Empire collapsing and Qin China avoiding dissolution. Consequently, constant rivalry between the warring European states leads them to political and technological progress, whereas China lags behind, staggering under the weight of imperial bureaucracy. The Chinese Empire goes through a cycle of civil wars and dynastic changes, much like Rome did in our timeline. During one of these upheavals Nippon emancipates itself from Qin administration and becomes its own feudal kingdom, unified by the Northern warrior people of Ainu [1]. Meanwhile the European kingdoms, most notably Gallia and Brittland, develop their own identities and eventually become nation states.
Fast forward two thousand years, and the world is in the midst of a Second All-Heavens War (called the Second Nations War in this timeline). On the one side there are the Axis powers of the III Gaelic Tuath, Etruscia and Ainu; on the other, the allies: Vandalia, Anglia, United Provinces of Brasil (Britland’s former colony), Oikumene of Scythian Izarchates (a socialist republic established after the fall of the Scythian Atamanate in the First Nations War) and the United Chinese Front (a temporary coalition of warring factions, among them the Izarchist Revolutionary Party and the Nationalist Party). United Chinese Front puts up a desperate defense against the Ainu invaders, at one point blowing up dikes on the Yellow river in order to stop their advance. The Ainu, on the other hand, commit acts of unbelievable cruelty against the Chinese, whom they consider as inferior people.
The map depicts Ainu territorial expansion in the decades leading up to the Second Nations War and its conquests in said war.
The dates on the map are using the Christian calendar, as I imagine it would be the most widely used in this West-dominated world.
[1] I chose Ainu to be the rulers of Nippon, because I think that the Japanese who developed the first parliamentary institutions in our timeline, would be incapable of waging such brutal wars of conquest in Asia as Britons did in Europe.
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Forgive me, but I don't know where else to ask this question: to those of you who make UK election maps (@Thande etc), what resources do you use to help you determine which constituency is which? I'm trying to make a map for an alternate 1973 UK election and I can't find any of the constituencies on the map.
Korea is mostly concerned with east Asian affairs. Since Suomi generally prefers to keep their tender parts out of that hornet's nest, they don't have much in the way of clashing interests and much to gain with good trade relationships. They did clash over borders in Siberia, but that's century and a half plus ancient history.
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This map shows the People's Republic of New Africa six years after the conclusion of the Southern Civil War and three years after the African People's Party consolidated absolute power over the state, establishing the one-party dictatorship which would last until the mid-1990s.
Controversial on both sides of the border was the collaboration of the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS) both in funding African liberation and nationalist groups before the outbreak of the civil war and in actively supporting the revolutionary government even as it took an authoritarian turn.
Some critics argue the APP regime was as bad or even worse than the white supremacist government it replaced, and suggest that the U.S. could have easily used its influence to demand human rights concessions or regime change. On the other hand, although higher profile since it was closer to home, the basic geopolitical strategy of supporting radical governments which could be ideologically relied upon to oppose U.S. adversaries was not unique; China, Cuba, and Morocco have similar stories.
In addition, it is difficult to argue that the end result has not been positive on balance. Today, the Republic of New Africa is highly democratic, increasingly wealthy, and, maybe most importantly, much more willing than most of the world's ex-dictatorships to face the crimes of past regimes and seek true justice.
Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
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This map shows the People's Republic of New Africa six years after the conclusion of the Southern Civil War and three years after the African People's Party consolidated absolute power over the state, establishing the one-party dictatorship which would last until the mid-1990s.
Controversial on both sides of the border was the collaboration of the U.S. Office of Strategic Services (OSS) both in funding African liberation and nationalist groups before the outbreak of the civil war and in actively supporting the revolutionary government even as it took an authoritarian turn.
Some critics argue the APP regime was as bad or even worse than the white supremacist government it replaced, and suggest that the U.S. could have easily used its influence to demand human rights concessions or regime change. On the other hand, although higher profile since it was closer to home, the basic geopolitical strategy of supporting radical governments which could be ideologically relied upon to oppose U.S. adversaries was not unique; China, Cuba, and Morocco have similar stories.
In addition, it is difficult to argue that the end result has not been positive on balance. Today, the Republic of New Africa is highly democratic, increasingly wealthy, and, maybe most importantly, much more willing than most of the world's ex-dictatorships to face the crimes of past regimes and seek true justice.
Proposals and War Aims That Didn't Happen Map Thread
Deleted user said:Found in the Library of Congress map archive: in the late 1960s, there was substantial support within both the the State Dept and the Office of Strategic Services for an American-led intervention in the Confederate States to partition the country into black and white majority states.
Interesting to think about. It's clear what they are going for of course, in that the new 'Freedonia' would be even more dependent on the U.S. than OTL NA was, so it would give the U.S. full control of the Mississippi, plus make it basically impossible for the rump Confederacy to keep flirting on and off with London and Berlin. Obviously it's not a very pretty border but considering the alternative was a brutal civil war and a generation of Leninism maybe it would have been for the best?
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