Map Thread XXI

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Latest update of "Work in progress" map, this time including Florida
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1)The Republicof Florida (San Agustín)

Chief Language: Spanish

Chief Language: Catholicism)

Government: Parliamentary democracy

Neighbors: Virginia on the North, Louisiana on the West, the Cubas (not shown) to the South

Relations With Their Neighbors: Shares in the general dislike of the Virginians. Gets along OK with the Louisianans. Formerly had territorial disputes with the Cubas (over what we would call "The Bahamas"). They now get along well as members of the "Thanks, Big Brother Mexico, But We'd Rather Not Become Your Newest States" Club.

Note: Not my most "developed" idea, perhaps, but I've always wondered what kind of distinct national identity Florida might have developed if it had remained Spanish. I resisted the urge to have them have an "Hombre de Florida" type reputation.
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2)The Commonwealth of New England (Boston)

Chief Language: English

Chief Religion: Protestantism (Religious tolerance exists in theory. but in practice, the non-Protestant population is vanishingly small. Catholic and other immigrants from Europe tended to go to the New Netherlands, Florida, the Cubas, Louisiana or Mexico.)

Government: Parliamentary democracy, somewhat more conservative and less tolerant than the New Netherlands

Neighbors: New France on the North, the New Netherlands on the West.

Relations With Their Neighbors: Longstanding territorial disputes with New France, whom they think of as a hereditary enemy. Has set aside similar disputes with the New Netherlands, with the realization that they need Nieuw Amsterdam's good offices as a counterweight to Québec.

Note: A small nation that feels "hemmed in" by its neighbors. Has an international reputation as a "nation of small-town lawyers".
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3)The United Provinces of the New Netherlands (Nieuw Amsterdam)

Chief Language: Amerikaans (I'm imagining something closer to the ancestral Dutch than OTL Afrikaans is, but further than American English is from British English is, if that makes any sense, which it may not)

Chief Religions: Protestantism, Catholicism (Various flavors of Christianity are the vast majority, but religious tolerance is practiced.)

Government: Parliamentary democracy, what we would call "left of center", with racial tolerance and tolerance for persons of different sexualities, and so on. It's not a paradise, but overall, it's a pretty good place to live.

Neighbors: New France on the North, New England on the East, Louisiana and Virginia on the South, and Lakhota and Mexico on the West.

Relations With Their Neighbors:
  1. Lakhota: the :Lakhota are a proud people, and make much of the fact that they are the only Native North American people to retain their independence, but their leaders are well aware that they retained their independence because the Mexicans, New Netherlanders and New French found it expedient to leave them as a buffer state rather than fight a war over the territory. Relations with the New Netherlands are generally good, and Nieuw Amsterdam allows the Lakhota to maintain certain sacred sites on their territory.
  2. Lousiana: The New Netherlanders get along well enough with the genial kleptocrats in Nouvelle-Orléans, the moreso since neither of them likes the Virginians much.
  3. Mexico: Mexico is one of TTL's super-powers, stretching from the border with Imperial Russia (about midway through IOTL's British Columbia) down into South America. The Mexicans consider the Americas their sphere of influence and like their neighbors to behave themselves, so everyone tends to keep quiet so the Mexicans won't decide to "teach" them how to behave.
  4. New England: There were territorial disputes in the early Nineteenth Century, Later, the Yankees were happy to have the good offices of Nieuw Amsterdam to keep the New French off their backs.
  5. New France: Relations are cool but correct. There are no current disputes, but the two nations are not overly fond of one another, largely because New France sees the New Netherlanders as being too cozy with their old rivals in Louisiana.
  6. Virginia: There were disputes in the Ninetenth Century over Nieuw Amsterdam's refusal to return escaped slaves, coming close to war on more than one occasion. However, the fact that they are surrounded by nations that don'tb like them much (The New Netherlands, Lousiana and Florida on the south) have kept them from getting too frisky.

Note: Heavily into what we would call "green" or "alternative" energy sources. Think of themselves as the "one sane nation" in the Americas.

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4)The Commonwealth of Virginia (Williamsburg)

Chief Language: English

Chief Religions: Church of Virginia (Protestant) is the church of upper and middle class whites, various other Protestant sects/cults are followed by poor whites and non-whites.

Government: An "aristocratic republic". dominated by a white upper class from wealthy "old families" (the franchise is based on property ownership) that works assiduously to keep the poor whites, African-descended people and what few Native Americans survive divided. Slavery was technically abolished in the early Twentieth Century, but Blacks are still heavily oppressed.

Neighbors: The New Netherlands on the North, Florida on the South and Louisiana on the West.

Relations With Their Neighbors: The Virginian ruling class looks down on the New Netherlanders as vulgar, bourgeois shopkeepers and farmers, the Floridians as savage mongrels and the Louisianans as degenerate mongrels. Occasionally they like to make noises about putting them all in their places, but are well aware that they wouldn't stand a chance against the three of them, and that's without even taking into consideration what the Mexicans might do.

Note: Somewhat of a pariah among nations that like to think of themselves as "civilized". Their chief export is tobacco whic sells well enough in countries that don't pvermiuch worry aboutnwhether foreign workers are exploited. When a Mexican scientist worked out that smokng is bad for you, the Virginians took it as part of a conspiracy to wreck their economy.
 
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The Cold War Partition of China:

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And its sequel:

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Lore explained here:

But basically, the Chinese Communist Party is crushed in 1934 because the spy Mo Xiong is caught, meaning the CCP is encircled and annihilated. Japan invades then loses as usual, with the USSR occupying the north and handing it over to Mao, who barely escaped death in '34. The north is much weaker, with most of the country in the hands of Chiang Kai-shek and his Kuomintang. The south is comparable to other right-wing Cold War dictatorships, like Indonesia and South Korea. Communists and leftists are purged, but it isn't as bad as if Mao was in charge. Meanwhile, Korea is reunified in the 1950s and the US doesn't fully invade Vietnam, since there's no Domino Theory.

In 1976, both Mao and Chiang Kai-shek die, opening the doors to liberals which take control of both countries. Both countries gradually change their policies, with protests driving the Kuomintang to hold free elections in 1987 and the Communists to resign from power in 1988. Both countries sign a bill reunifying in 1990. The future is not perfect, but over the course of the 1990s China goes through an economic boom, rising to be the #2 economy in the world. It has close ties with the United States, who it views as a friendly rival. Tensions between China and India are high though, and both countries have nuclear weapons....
 
The Cold War Partition of China:

dgrri4hysx5a1.png



And its sequel:

dhdkyzuq2a6a1.png


Lore explained here:

But basically, the Chinese Communist Party is crushed in 1934 because the spy Mo Xiong is caught, meaning the CCP is encircled and annihilated. Japan invades then loses as usual, with the USSR occupying the north and handing it over to Mao, who barely escaped death in '34. The north is much weaker, with most of the country in the hands of Chiang Kai-shek and his Kuomintang. The south is comparable to other right-wing Cold War dictatorships, like Indonesia and South Korea. Communists and leftists are purged, but it isn't as bad as if Mao was in charge. Meanwhile, Korea is reunified in the 1950s and the US doesn't fully invade Vietnam, since there's no Domino Theory.

In 1976, both Mao and Chiang Kai-shek die, opening the doors to liberals which take control of both countries. Both countries gradually change their policies, with protests driving the Kuomintang to hold free elections in 1987 and the Communists to resign from power in 1988. Both countries sign a bill reunifying in 1990. The future is not perfect, but over the course of the 1990s China goes through an economic boom, rising to be the #2 economy in the world. It has close ties with the United States, who it views as a friendly rival. Tensions between China and India are high though, and both countries have nuclear weapons....
Amazing maps but guh postal romanization

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From the TL The Free Republic of Outremeuse

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This map show Europa after second great War 1941-1946
France & USSR vs rest of Europa, Germany and Large coalition, defeats both after bloody battles
After the War the Coalition became the United Staates of Europa. (except Britain)
Note territorial change in France after War,
Poland move Eastwards and several buffer states created.
like Neu Burgund is buffer state by Bavaria.
the Governments installed in post war France and Russia are pro-german.
 
The Cold War Partition of China

In 1976, both Mao and Chiang Kai-shek die, opening the doors to liberals which take control of both countries. Both countries gradually change their policies, with protests driving the Kuomintang to hold free elections in 1987 and the Communists to resign from power in 1988. Both countries sign a bill reunifying in 1990. The future is not perfect, but over the course of the 1990s China goes through an economic boom, rising to be the #2 economy in the world. It has close ties with the United States, who it views as a friendly rival. Tensions between China and India are high though, and both countries have nuclear weapons....
So what's this Eurasian Federation? (Too lazy to watch video).
 
So what's this Eurasian Federation? (Too lazy to watch video).
Basically the idea is that moderates in the USSR prevail in the 1980s and form a confederation to go along with de-communization. Not really a focus of this video but the last one I made. POD is back in 1934 so I figured some changes would happen in the rest of the world too.
 
The Cold War Partition of China:



And its sequel:



But basically, the Chinese Communist Party is crushed in 1934 because the spy Mo Xiong is caught, meaning the CCP is encircled and annihilated. Japan invades then loses as usual, with the USSR occupying the north and handing it over to Mao, who barely escaped death in '34. The north is much weaker, with most of the country in the hands of Chiang Kai-shek and his Kuomintang. The south is comparable to other right-wing Cold War dictatorships, like Indonesia and South Korea. Communists and leftists are purged, but it isn't as bad as if Mao was in charge. Meanwhile, Korea is reunified in the 1950s and the US doesn't fully invade Vietnam, since there's no Domino Theory.

In 1976, both Mao and Chiang Kai-shek die, opening the doors to liberals which take control of both countries. Both countries gradually change their policies, with protests driving the Kuomintang to hold free elections in 1987 and the Communists to resign from power in 1988. Both countries sign a bill reunifying in 1990. The future is not perfect, but over the course of the 1990s China goes through an economic boom, rising to be the #2 economy in the world. It has close ties with the United States, who it views as a friendly rival. Tensions between China and India are high though, and both countries have nuclear weapons....
Why does the republic of China have the islands of ishigaki and Iriomote? Those are all part of Okinawa prefecture.
 
work in progress (I need to make a key and do minor adjustments) map set in 1915, 100 years after Britain surrendered to Napoleon's forces and on the eve of the Great war. obvious Napoleon wank is obvious. ;)

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They wanted the beautiful beaches on Ishigaki (lol)
Haha I mean yes. I used to live in Okinawa (hence of all details on the map, that is where my eyes were drawn to) and those beaches and coral reefs are absolutely stunning. Just the clearest water.

The Ryukyu people have been through a lot, so it makes me sad to see the islands partitioned.
 
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