Map Thread XXI
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You can go with obvious Napoleon, but theres the same problem I guess
About Charlemagne mentioned - I think even Merovingians were doing quite well in one moment
OR you can do (high) medieval France (13th century? at that time, Anjou and other branches of Capetian dynasty rule in like half of Europe, a bit earlier they try to conquer England etc.)
Francis I. was already mentioned, and Louis XIV. you already did (Richelieu would be too close I assume...) what about early revolution (there was some sort of hugenot plot in half of 17th century to turn France into Swiss-styled confederacy)... or get rid of revolution and turn France peacefully into stable, reformed constitutional monarchy (not sure how much potenciall for wank)...
My favourite would be 3rd empire (there were many attempts and project of Napoleon III.)
Or you can wank 3rd republic colonial empire or even attempt something around world war I (probably need to nerf somehow Germany, UK and USA or Russia though)
EDIT: What about gallic-centered Roman empire or even Gauls? (even if I am personally usually not a big fan of "too early" PoDs)
FireCrispyHistory
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The hell? Is that Connecticut having an exclave west of Wyoming (Despite the fact that PA's name means Penn's Woods, referencing the fact that the area was gifted to William Penn. Why would they change it to Wyoming?)
1. Connecticut historically claimed that land and only gave it up in exchange for subsumption of its debts by the federal government. Virginia once claimed the entirety of the Northwest Territories, after all. Most of the colonies were initially granted âall land between your north and south borders, all the way to the pacificâ in their royal charters.
2. OTL Wyoming is named after the region of Pennsylvania.
FireCrispyHistory
Banned
Yes, but you don't see Germany ever being called Frankfurt. You don't see Italy ever being called Palermo. You don't see America ever being called Minnesota. Why should a small borough cause a complete name change?
The same reason that all state/place names have always been up in the air. There were sometimes half a dozen potential state names before a territory organized itself. This is alternate history. Germany isnât called Frankfurt because it isnât. The POD here is clearly early enough that Plymouth colony survived, so thereâs plenty that can change.
Map of Middle Earth in the Late Fourth Age, just before the crises that would beset the Reunited Kingdom on all sides.
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Planet of Hats
Donor
They chose that flag as a symbol of the country's Loyalist roots!
Louis Riel was born more than 30 years after the POD, so he's unlikely to be around here. There were certainly MĂ©tis resisting rule from Cobourg, but things played out Ambiguously Differently. The province of Saugegan has a certain degree of influence from that culture, at least.
FireCrispyHistory
Banned
So, this project took me a while, but I went to mapchart and tried to recreate the HoI4 map. Of course, it is me and i forgot about it for a few months, and then noticed it. Also, the map got updated (Thank you, BBA!), so I had to re-do it. Anyway, since the photo turned out too large, I instead decided to take a photo of each continent and post them separately. Here you go. If you have any thoughts, do not hesitate to share them with me.
Note: That Blue in Brazil is an error. Please do not mind it.
Remember, the blue is meant to be the same, just an error in the creation of the map.
Remember, don't hesitate to share any thoughts. ANY thoughts.
This is the full map, so you can see why i wouldnt want to send this one. The borders...
America
Canada
Soviet Union
Britain
Mexico
Guatemala
Cuba
El Salvador
Haiti
Dominican Republic
Honduras
Nicaragua
Costa Rica
Panama
Netherlands
France
Denmark
Venezuela
Colombia
Canada
Soviet Union
Britain
Mexico
Guatemala
Cuba
El Salvador
Haiti
Dominican Republic
Honduras
Nicaragua
Costa Rica
Panama
Netherlands
France
Denmark
Venezuela
Colombia
Note: That Blue in Brazil is an error. Please do not mind it.
Nicaragua
Costa Rica
Panama
America
Colombia
Venezuela
Peru
Netherlands
Ecuador
Chile
Argentina
France
Uruguay
Bolivia
Paraguay
Brazil
Spain
Portugal
Italy
Liberia
South Africa
Britain
Costa Rica
Panama
America
Colombia
Venezuela
Peru
Netherlands
Ecuador
Chile
Argentina
France
Uruguay
Bolivia
Paraguay
Brazil
Spain
Portugal
Italy
Liberia
South Africa
Britain
Britain
Ireland
Portugal
France
Spain
Italy
Belgium
Netherlands
Luxembourg
Germany
Switzerland
Austria
Yugoslavia
Albania
Greece
Bulgaria
Romania
Czechoslovakia
Poland
Hungary
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia
Soviet Union
Turkey
Iraq
Iran
Norway
Denmark
Sweden
Finland
Ireland
Portugal
France
Spain
Italy
Belgium
Netherlands
Luxembourg
Germany
Switzerland
Austria
Yugoslavia
Albania
Greece
Bulgaria
Romania
Czechoslovakia
Poland
Hungary
Lithuania
Latvia
Estonia
Soviet Union
Turkey
Iraq
Iran
Norway
Denmark
Sweden
Finland
Remember, the blue is meant to be the same, just an error in the creation of the map.
Brazil
Spain
Portugal
Liberia
Ethiopia
Aussa
South Africa
France
Britain
Belgium
Italy
Greece
Turkey
Saudi Arabia
Oman
Yemen
Iraq
Iran
Soviet Union
Brazil
Afghanistan
British Raj
Spain
Portugal
Liberia
Ethiopia
Aussa
South Africa
France
Britain
Belgium
Italy
Greece
Turkey
Saudi Arabia
Oman
Yemen
Iraq
Iran
Soviet Union
Brazil
Afghanistan
British Raj
Estonia
Latia
Lithuania
Sweden
Finland
Norway
Germany
Poland
Czechoslovakia
Hungary
Yugoslavia
Albania
Italy
France
Aussa
Ethiopia
Britain
British Raj
Greece
Romania
Bulgaria
Turkey
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Oman
Iraq
Iran
Soviet Union
Afghanistan
Japan
Manchukuo
Mengkukuo
Shanxi
Guangxi Clique
Yunnan
Tibet
Tannu Tuva
Mongolia
Sinkiang
Xibei San Ma
Communist China
China
British Malaya
Portugal
Siam
Philippines
United States
Nepal
Bhutan
Latia
Lithuania
Sweden
Finland
Norway
Germany
Poland
Czechoslovakia
Hungary
Yugoslavia
Albania
Italy
France
Aussa
Ethiopia
Britain
British Raj
Greece
Romania
Bulgaria
Turkey
Saudi Arabia
Yemen
Oman
Iraq
Iran
Soviet Union
Afghanistan
Japan
Manchukuo
Mengkukuo
Shanxi
Guangxi Clique
Yunnan
Tibet
Tannu Tuva
Mongolia
Sinkiang
Xibei San Ma
Communist China
China
British Malaya
Portugal
Siam
Philippines
United States
Nepal
Bhutan
British Raj
Siam
France
United States
Britain
Dutch East Indies
British Malaya
Portugal
Australia
New Zealand
Japan
Siam
France
United States
Britain
Dutch East Indies
British Malaya
Portugal
Australia
New Zealand
Japan
Remember, don't hesitate to share any thoughts. ANY thoughts.
This is the full map, so you can see why i wouldnt want to send this one. The borders...
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Now with atlas and road signs. The highway network stops at the Mexican border because I'd go absolutely insane trying to cram highway indicators into the density madness that is the urban environs of Ciudad Mexico. The Laurentian network was hard enough, thank you.
A lot of island names in the Arctic are different because the royal family went in another direction. Sorry, Queen Vicky. Better luck OTL.
P.S.: Flags are either OTL variants or stuff I put together solo.
things that seem odd:
Why is there no trans-canada highway across Newfoundland? (there is OTL)
Could be put down to the small costal province being ignored TTL relative to the great lakes and northern plaines interior
American virgin islands (1917 purchase) don't seem like such a fit for the alt-usa
Basically asking if these are deliberate decisions or OTL leftovers in the map, and if deliberate why
Planet of Hats
Donor
Newfoundland has a provincial highway but I probably forgot to draw it in because I'm a goober.
The fact that the US got pushed around a lot didn't preclude colonial ambitions. The former Danish Virgin Islands are an American vanity project, mostly. It's the Slavocracy going "Look at us! We can colony too!"
You have Poland wrong. That far south-east province should be Soviet.
FireCrispyHistory
Banned
Thanks for informing me, despite being a magnet from Poland who would probably be proud to have it be bigger than normal.
Another entry into my fantasy setting, this time explaining the rise and fall of a religion, presented as pages 112-113 of a fictional history textbook
If anyone is wondering what the poem says:
tarytaru luhaÌu komoÌ
ceuÌĆo nÌy verriÌ huÌ u'akurai
jiÌjiÌ nÌy liurau yÌreÌ komoÌ
SaÌveÌla deÌno obu'a kireu
In english:
broken branches
fallen from a mighty tree
glisten with fruit
the earth-god reclaims them
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Hello everybody!
This is my second map; Itâs a spin-off of my first map, in wich I depicted the world of a collaborative alternate history map-game hosted in Civ Fanatics Forum many years ago, called AFSNES (Advance Fresh Start NES).
That map depicted a particular moment in that history, TTLâs 700 AD, after the end of the equivalent of the Dark Age; while I tried to give a very broad impression of that scenarioâs rich lore through nationsâ description and notes, many interesting moments and polities were lost, or not nearly visible enough.
One of those lost histories is the Empire of Tartessos.
Once TTLâs mightiest empire in Europe, Tartessos, a celtic/iberian city founded in late 13th Century BC, in its almost one millennium and half of history, rose from southern Iberia to Western Mediterranean hegemony, passing though many crises, barbarian assaults, civil wars, defeating stubborn enemies (among them Rome itself), and surviving against foreign invasions.
The history of Tartessos is the history of TTLâs Western Europe and Western Mediterranean; itâs the history of Rome, of the Celtic people of Arecome, of the Greek poleis of Central Mediterranean, of the Athanoi of the Eridanus Valley, of the stubborn people of Liguria, of the Berbers in North Africa, of the Celts in Gaul and their struggle against invading Germanic people, it the history of the great empires of the Near East, like Paphlagonia, the Tartars, and ultimately the greatest, the Watchurian Empire.
I tried to chronicle the ebb and flow of Tartessos and its many neighbours through a series of localized maps, highlighting in each the changes of its protagonistâs borders, and giving a brief chronological description.
I hope that the result will be interesting enough; In the future, I might do similar series for other civilizations, or more detailed maps of singular empires.
As I already detailed in my previous map write-up, do mind that the scenario depicted is not my creation, and I had a minimal contribution in its creation (I was one of the many players involved);
The main âculpritâ was the moderator of AFSNES, Das, that coordinated the player efforts into as realistic as possible way; the other principal creative force behind this timeline was Insane-Panda, the players actually behind Tartessos.
The other players involved in this part of the world will be detailed in the Credits.
Pleas enjoy my new map! Any feedback is appreciated.
CREDITS
Das â Moderator, curator of the whole scenario
Kalâthzar â Nubia, Ashaism, Watchur and its successor states, Tarekid Amsurate
~ Darkening~ - Tihuanaco
JoesfStalinator â Arecoman Celts, Caerix and Tigranism
Insane-Panda â Tartessos
Toltec â Paphlagonia
Dachs â Latins, Rome, Thuringia
Thlayli â Parthenian Republic, Greek poleis, Hellenic Empire, Corcyran League
Niklas â Ur and its various empires, Agade Dag
Nuka-Sama â Racadonia
Littleboots â Athanoi
Shortguy â Mitanni, Frisians
Neverwonagame3 â Karung and Karrism
LightFang- Sardinia
Daftpanzer â Odrysa and Thracians
Altair â Liguria
erez87 â Caeon
The13thRonin â Hessonia, Hessonian Greeks and Delphian Empire
j_eps â Dâmt, Axum, Liths
I don't know exactly where to post this, but as maps are involved, I put it here in the general map thread. And the creation is not mine (links and credit are below).
I stumbled on this fictional nation while looking up things for Football Manager 22. A user has created a whole fictional nation, namely (the Kingdom of) Morgsthia. That it is supposed to be a constitutional monarchy becomes clear from the text below:
(by Ozbay in a post further down):
What do you think, mainly the football types around here like @QTXAdsy , @NTF aka Seb , @Dom , @Fletch et al.
But of course, we can also create other types of lore around Morgsthia.
By the way I somehow thought of a variant on Doggerland...
The link, credit goes to the user "Ozbay".
The two "main" maps:
https://content.invisioncic.com/Msi.../Map.png.72aadb99eba01447b0b98e74604dfaba.png
Hi, and sorry about the late reply.
What I think? Be more specific, please. I'm not sure I understand entirely what you wanna know.
1. That's not the whole Gran Chaco region, in the OTL Paraguay-Bolivia border, some of the Chaco is Bolivian soil.
2. Yes, for example, you may show that both halves claim the whole rest of Brazil, just like the Republic of China and the Popular Republic of China claim the whole of China; and North Korea and South Korea both claim the whole of Korea.
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