Map Thread XVIII
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This is a map of the New Albion-Canada Common Area in a fictional magazine, Liberal Daily (Named after the Liberal Party of New Albion). The provisions of this agreement include common market, partial freedom of movement, and later common currency.
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Something I've been working on in my spare time.
Nothing too ambitious, just a map of the Three Kingdoms. Figured I could make one that has most all the locations mentioned in the Romance.
Unfortunately, the physical side of the map is a hodgepodge of ancient and modern features, owing to contradictory information from the basemaps I've used. I had to reduce the coastline bordering the Yellow Sea and the Yangtze River Delta (and will probably do the same to the Pearl River later), but at the same time I had to keep the rivers and lakes (and their corresponding shapes) from a previous map of mine because I wasn't able to find basemaps with accurate representations of the river system of 2nd century China.
Also, my basemaps couldn't agree on how much of Korea the Han controlled, which could vary from "just a strip of northwest Korea" to "everything from the Yalu to the Namhan". I'm familiar with the Four Commanderies, but I'm not sure how big they were or what they looked like; the contradictions from my references only complicates matters further.
Any advice for my conundrum is appreciated!
Nothing too ambitious, just a map of the Three Kingdoms. Figured I could make one that has most all the locations mentioned in the Romance.
Unfortunately, the physical side of the map is a hodgepodge of ancient and modern features, owing to contradictory information from the basemaps I've used. I had to reduce the coastline bordering the Yellow Sea and the Yangtze River Delta (and will probably do the same to the Pearl River later), but at the same time I had to keep the rivers and lakes (and their corresponding shapes) from a previous map of mine because I wasn't able to find basemaps with accurate representations of the river system of 2nd century China.
Also, my basemaps couldn't agree on how much of Korea the Han controlled, which could vary from "just a strip of northwest Korea" to "everything from the Yalu to the Namhan". I'm familiar with the Four Commanderies, but I'm not sure how big they were or what they looked like; the contradictions from my references only complicates matters further.
Any advice for my conundrum is appreciated!
Why does everyone support the Drang Nach Osten?
Interesting scenario: is this part of a larger setting, or a one-off? Love the effort put into the alt-names.
(An "old Burgundy" controlling northern Italy is a cool idea, but wouldn't it have trouble colonizing the Americas if one of its competitors (the Moors) was sitting on the throat of the Mediterranean?)
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Why does everyone support the Drang Nach Osten?
Interesting scenario: is this part of a larger setting, or a one-off? Love the effort put into the alt-names.
(An "old Burgundy" controlling northern Italy is a cool idea, but wouldn't it have trouble colonizing the Americas if one of its competitors (the Moors) was sitting on the throat of the Mediterranean?)
Oh you know, I did shave today and for about ten minutes I had a Hitler mustache so maybe my inner call for Lebensraum kicked in
. But I think it's just a natural progression of Ostsiedlung. Plus the idea of European Russia being a mess of Slavic, German and Finnic principalities fascinates me, particularly without the Mongols storming through and killing everyone. If I were to do another map it'd probably be on that. I like big ethnic hodgepodges (hence why it's on my bingo card, aha). And thanks! The names took a fair amount of time so I'm glad they're appreciated. It's really just a one off, though I could imagine ways to expand it. The idea of an English Siberia has been bouncing around my head for months so I finally threw this together to get it out. I don't intend to take it anywhere, though if others do that'd be fine by me.
Yeah I did consider that at length and I've not got a 100% full-proof answer, if I'm honest. Maybe a Gibraltar situation where Burgundy owns the straits, or they used an intermediary that does have an Atlantic coastline such as an alt-Netherlands or Hanseatic League. Or a reverse Granada where southern Spain has a small Christian principality that incidentally controls the straits. I did consider giving them basically all of southern France while making Francia more of a France + Germany sort of thing, but that didn't really jive for my purposes.
In short: ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
How did Denmark lose Greenland (and not have the Norwegians making a claim to at least a portion of it like their did with Erik the Redland) and why are they and the Norwegians under he French aegis? Seems like it would be tempting fate against the Germans, and the Danes were pretty much just hoping to keep neutral in everything.
EDIT: Just noticed the thing with Jordan. Is this Jordan getting a lot of extra land for no reason, or is this showing Winston's Hiccup in full?
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Sorry, this is a bit anachronistic. It's empire of this man.
Of course! Can you imagine Azerbaijan without warm water port?
Thank you.
No, it isn't. I didn't play in this game. But the idea is interesting.
*Free Cities.
Thank you.
It's the interesting idea too.
It means "It's only Romania, nothing more. And it's not a great Romania or weaker Romania, it's just Romania.".
Don’t give me ideas...
Nah, too late. Already planning out this book in my head.
Tokyo to Table Mountain by Geoffrey Marshall, in all good bookstores now.
Along similar lines to North and South Dakota. Maryland has shown some interest in getting rid of the Eastern Shore, and the Democrats in office wanted to increase their majority, so Delmarva seemed like a reasonable way to go about doing that.
I can't think of a better place for it to be.
This screwing of Maryland has now inspired me to make a map of a much, MUCH bigger Old Line State.
Still not all too happy about this, but hey, it's your scenario. Do as you please.
I’ve been thinking about this map more, and I just realized that this would make a great EUIV mod. The only thing that would need to be done is to fix the projection of the map in order to fit everything in, but imagine exploring Essos/Westeros as a European power.
Here's the remainder of the Manchurian maps:
Yes, I know how Chinese names work, but I needed to distinguish Ma Zhanshan's resistance army from the clique based in Tsinghai, also called Ma.
Resistance at Nenjiang Bridge
Jinzhou Campaign
Defense of Harbin
Creation of Manchukuo
Outbreak of the Sino-Tibetan War
Battle of Surmang
Pacification of Manchukuo
Yes, I know how Chinese names work, but I needed to distinguish Ma Zhanshan's resistance army from the clique based in Tsinghai, also called Ma.
Resistance at Nenjiang Bridge
- A - Soviets back Chin Shu-jen in Sinkiang (Oct 1931)
- B - Manchurian defectors begin offensive operations in support of the Japanese (Oct 13 1931)
- C - Zhang Hseuh-liang appoints Ma Zhanshan as military governor of Heilungkiang (16 October 1931)
- D - Ma Zhanshan engages Japanese troops attempting to cross the Nen River (4 Nov 1931)
Jinzhou Campaign
- A - Chinese Soviet Republic declared (7 Nov 1931)
- B - Japanese occupy Qiqihar (18 Nov 1931)
- C - Kumul Khanate defeated (30 Nov 1931)
- D - Japanese advance on Jinzhou (21 Dec 1931)
- E - Japanese occupy Jinzhou (3 Jan 1932)
Defense of Harbin
- A - Japanese occupy Shanhaiguan (4 Jan 1932)
- B - Japanese and their Manchurian allies attack Harbin (25 Jan 1932)
- C - Japanese attack Shanghai (28 Jan 1932)
- D - Chinese forces retreat from Harbin (5 Feb 1932)
Creation of Manchukuo
- A - Chinese “Volunteer Armies” begin insurgent operations in Kirin and Fengtian (8 Feb 1932)
- B - Heilungkiang defects to the Japanese (14 Feb 1932)
- C - Kirin provincial government surrenders to the Japanese, but volunteer armies continue the fighting (27 Feb 1932)
- D - Kyrghiz revolt in Sinkiang (Mar 1932)
- E - Ceasefire in Shanghai (3 Mar 1932)
- F - The Japanese military command in Manchuria appoints Cheng Hsiao-hsu as the Prime Minister of the Manchu State (9 Mar 1932)
Outbreak of the Sino-Tibetan War
- A - Tibet invades Tsinghai (24 Mar 1932)
- B - Ma Zhanshan establishes a unified command over the Volunteer Armies from his base in Heihe (7 Apr 1932)
- C - Revolt against Soviet influence in Mongolia (10 Apr 1932)
- D - Volunteer Armies threaten Mukden (May 1932)
Battle of Surmang
- A - Brief Mongol rebellion against the Japanese (Aug 1932)
- B - Japanese defeat Ma Zhanshan at Qiqihar (31 August 1932)
- C - Tibetans defeated at Surmang (Sept 2 1932)
Pacification of Manchukuo
- A - Soviets crush Mongolian revolt (Oct 1932)
- B - Han Fu-chü assumes control of eastern Shantung (Nov 1932)
- C - Japanese defeat insurgents in Fengtian (20 Nov 1932)
- D - Japanese defeat Ma Zhanshan (5 Dec 1932)
- E - Insurgents in Kirin retreat into Soviet territory, ending organized resistance to Japanese dominance in Manchukuo (8 Jan 1932)
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I believe he used an online mapmaking tool called Mapchart, fit to make information-based maps. alternate history maps? Not so much.
I don’t know why he didn’t make a real map.
His C drive may be filled up, preventing the use of paint or paint.net. I suffer from the same problem, my C drive is filled up for no reason.
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