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Based on the last map, the world of Reds vs. Blues is now in the year 2013.

By now, the cold war that gripped the post-Revolution world has more or less abated. With the splitting of the LISS in 1980, the League of Nations has slowly slid into irrelevance – certainly, it is less of a military bloc than it was before, and has now become something more like a badass UN than the Allies from Red Alert.

Nowadays, the “Reds vs. Blues” thing is a dick-measuring contest between the 3rd International, led from Moscow, and the 4th International, led from Berlin.

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The British Commonwealth is now more like it is IOTL, an old boy’s club, where people like to wax lyrical about the days when they were the 400lb gorilla. There are still a number of dominions, though they have reduced in number – many have since voted to become republics, or a federated monarchy in the case of Malaya. However, several former colonies have federated into the UK, similar to the Overseas Departments (etc.) of France IOTL, like Gambia and most of the Pacific and Caribbean Islands. On the other hand, Fiji and British Guiana have now joined the dominion club. Much like IOTL, only the Middle Eastern former protectorates declined joining the Commonwealth, though the area around Aden was attached to the UK and has more or less found its peace with that.

The Indian Commonwealth states have all formed into a regional bloc – the imaginatively entitled Indian Union – based on trade and mutual defence against the still Red Hindustan (despite being a tad more mellow these days).

The UK is far from a waning power, though. With less focus on hard power (though it still has lots and lots of nukes), it refocused its energies towards modernised industry and technology. It is a world leader in science, and the world’s 4th largest economy (Japan has recently overtaken it…again).

Similarly, Japan had to reign back its more overtly expansionist dreams. The *GEACPS is now like a Far Eastern EU, with Japan as France in terms of military power, and Germany in terms of industrial power. Many states formerly in the British sphere have migrated into it over the past two decades, though they have largely still also remained in the Commonwealth. The rump of the Dutch East Indies is now a rather shaky federal republic, and is also a member of the Co-Prosperity Sphere, helped to stay there by lots of Japanese-made arms and yen being thrown at them.

A rising force in the LoN is the newly forged *Arab League. They are ruled either by broadly secular or classically traditionalist Islamic governments – Wahhabis are confined to the Nejd, and Hashemite-ruled Arabia is more than happy for them all to stay there. Instead of radicals and extremists, they are more than happy to export petroleum – not much need for an Arab Spring here, except maybe in the Sudan (which isn’t that nice ITTL either).

Portugal managed to wean itself off Spartacist ideology just in time. Like Britain, it has integrated the majority of its smaller colonies into itself, with a degree of local autonomy. Angola and Mozambique are what is ambiguously termed “co-republics”, which no-one really gets, but are effectively the republican version of dominions, or like the relationship between the US and Puerto Rico, only on a more equal basis.

The Dutch government in exile has had to reconcile itself with never being able to get the Netherlands back, especially after granting the rump East Indies’ independence in 1984. Fortunately, they were not happy with *Communist Indonesia’s overtures for unification, and have stayed the hell away from Jakarta.

Similarly, the Spanish government in exile has had to adapt itself to the modern world. The Philippines have now become a dominion rather than an integral province, due to the distance and problems of communication between them. The Filipino government is still very conservative, while the Greater Antilles are moderate, bordering on fairly liberal.

The Kingdom of Italy is now mostly democratic, despite getting there via a more hardline Spartacist government during the ’80s. However, with the north becoming more open, there was less need for the south to be quite as militarised. Abyssinia is now a dominion, with full independence – the only real connection now is a personal-union and an intricate system of trade and mutual-defence treaties. With south Abyssinia is still red, the north stayed loyal (also thanks to the large Italian settler population).

France (the African one), on the other hand, has fared rather worse. Inter-ethnic and religious turmoil forced it to loosen its structure a bit. What’s more, Chari and Ouadai provinces voted to become independent, though Algiers had the sense to just let them go – fortunately, the three states remain on (mostly) friendly terms. Similarly, its protectorates were allowed to slip out of its sphere because they simply couldn’t afford the costs of occupying them any longer.

While the Scandinavians (well, Denmark, really) rejoiced at the thought that hordes of rampaging Atomic German Commies™ weren’t suddenly going to start parachuting from massive zeppelins with shark faces painted on the front to the sound of funky music at any moment, the Balkan League suffered a huge crisis of conscience. After all, with the European *Communists suddenly turning out to be mellow, intellectual socialists and (shock horror) the good guys, they didn’t have much reason to not turn on each other instead. However, Finland has a very, very large collection of brown pants, because Russia is still leering at it in a rather creepy way.

Montenegro is now an even bigger whiner than it was previously, and underground anarchists and crypto-communists groups are abound (well, that’s what the Government says, anyway[1]). Bulgaria decided to pack away its “haters gotta’ hate” t-shirts and matching caps and decided to open up for business – turns out the Euro-Commies actually just wanted to trade after all, who knew. On the other hand, Romania, thankful that it has one fewer front to worry about, can still see Russia from its house. And the Greeks still really don’t like the Turks, about the only people they hate more than the Brits, who didn’t let them have Cyprus (still a dominion) or Constantinople.

The much hyped reunification between the Russian Free State and the Empire of Russia (Alaska) never happened. After so long apart, they just didn’t have enough in common to bring themselves closer together. The former state is now in the Japanese sphere, while Alaska is now one of the last remaining properly Spartacist countries, along with Transcaucasia and Turkestan.

By the present day, the various LoN mandates have voted on their futures. Shanghai has joined nationalist China, the Marshal Islands and Nauru have become dependencies of the Spanish monarchists and formerly German New Guinea has become a state of Australia (along with Papua), while formerly German Samoa became a dependency of New Zealand – none of these were terribly surprising. Tsingtao is now Japanese[2], run as an autonomous prefecture all by itself (again, no big surprise there). Formerly Russian Obock has joined with royalist Abyssinia (odd, but not hugely controversial), while Tangier declared itself a Free City[3]. However, no one expected the Straits Zone to vote themselves into becoming a dominion, not least the British (who were pleasantly surprised, though the Russians are still rather narked at this). [4]

And all the while, the US is getting richer and richer, desperately holding on to the #1 Most Biggest Economy position. Not having spent so much on a big-arse defence budget and enough nukes to sterilise a whole solar system, it has minded its own business flogging its business elsewhere, making bucket loads of cash in the meantime. However, it is regarding the new European project with interest, and the Latino socialists (who adhere to the 2nd International) are developing very quickly. If only Alaska would pay attention to it, instead of glaring at Russia, the US would like very much to get its hands on those (mineral) assets…

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Meanwhile, the Russo-European split finally happened in 1979. The EFSR held on to most of the more solidly *communist states, but the Ukraine, Byelorussia, Persia, Uighuristan, Somalia, South Ethiopia and (the biggest blow of all) France sided with Moscow.

Strangely enough, unlike the USSR IOTL, the EFSR is actually bigger now that it is a properly democratic socialist state than when it was the iron heart of Europe. Croatia and Lithuania both voted to join the federation not long after the Split, partially prompting a further split amongst the remaining LISS members. The African provinces are also all still inside the federation – one thing they did really well was the whole anti-racist thing, and they are quite well developed, though with different problems to OTL.

The KMT decided that it had finished pretending to be even remotely communist in 1986, when its economy started blossoming properly. Though nationalist China isn’t the economic powerhouse the PRC is IOTL, it’s still about equivalent to OTL Brazil.

The former LISS split even further in the late 1980s and early ’90s between those still adhering to the *Third International (the unreconstructed), and those members of the newer Fourth International (reconstructed, more like the Nordic Left than Leninism). However, Libya was the only non-European member of the old LISS that stuck with the EFSR, thankfully run by technocrats rather than a Gadhafi-type dictator, though it isn’t quite as progressive as the others.

Spain is technically a 4th international state, though it isn’t that friendly with the EFSR. It held a series of referenda throughout its overseas provinces in 1987 – most of them voted to stay in, but with a decent level of autonomy; only the Saharia district chose to become independent, and has joined the *Arab League (no tensions with Morocco ITTL, with no contiguous border).

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The remainder of the 3rd International have stuck fast to Russia, who is still proud to call itself a True Inheritor of the *Communist Revolution™ in public, while the grandees make boatloads of money, sip cognac and smoke big cigars in penthouse apartments with various women with negotiable degrees of virtue.

Red France is now in a big sulk. Not only did its (multiple) overtures to its African counterpart to unify with it fail miserably (similarly with Wallonia, who likes being a separate country too much), it has still to find a proper place for itself. It is still the second most industrialised member of the 3rd International, and is catching up quickly with Russia, but it is sure that nobody really gets them, or loves them, or cares, and it has lots and lots of nukes…

Italy has still stuck with the tried and tested *Fascist model, at least publically. However, it is now 33.3% less authoritarian, and about 1500% more capitalist than it was back in the ’70s. With greater economic freedoms, it has also boomed, though some are considering it to be still rather shaky. Fortunately, though, it is no longer compulsory to have massive classical-styled statues of the Dictator absolutely everywhere, and people can be excused for only having the odd one or two portraits of him about the place, instead of in every room. They do still love their big posters and outside murals of party bigwigs, though.

What makes the “Third” even more pissed off is that the LoN countries in Europe have invited the “Fourth” countries in central Europe to join in with their new-fangled Common Economic Market[5], based in London, without inviting them as well. I mean, of course they wouldn’t accept joining the Bastion of Bourgeois Imperialist Capitalism, but there is such thing as manners, after all…

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During the 1980s, with the LISS in tatters, the LoN loosing much of its militaristic basis and decolonisation firmly underway, the (more) democratic nations of Europe banded together for the purpose of trade. Britain had already formed bilateral agreements with Portugal, the Scandinavian countries, the Kingdom of Italy and the Balkan League, and they with most of each other. The Treaty of Stockholm (1984) formalised this interconnected set of trade agreements into a single Common Economic Market, which was joined by both the Spanish and Dutch exilic governments by the early ’90s, and by Tangier in 1999.

It wasn’t without some setbacks, though. Iceland, Greenland and the Faroe Islands rejected membership at first, though Iceland joined in its own terms in 2005, thanks to guarantees in regards to its fisheries. Concerns by the rest of the Dominions that the UK and the rest of its European members would focus too much on trading with the continent were abated by the Treaty of Wexford (1994), began to establish bilateral trading agreement between members of the Commonwealth Economic Forum (created in 1967) and the Common Economic Market. The Indian Union acceded to these in 2001, and the final Commonwealth members to join – Burma and the Cantonese Republic did so in 2010.

Further bilateral agreements have since been made with France-in-Africa (1991), the Philippines (1993), Angola and Mozambique (1995), north Abyssinia (1996), the Arab League (2004) and Japan and Korea (2006 and 2007 respectively) have connecting existing trade networks further. However, the most controversial measure yet was in inviting those countries that acceded to the 2nd and 4th Internationals to join talks[6]. The former was easier to stomach – the existing members all had prominent left-wing parties that were in favour of this, and they had done a lot of trade with the Latino Socialist nations in the past. Talks with forming bilateral trade with the Organisation of Socialist States (which by now also included Guatemala and Haiti) began in 2009, and was finalised in February 2010.

The latter proposal, however, caused a lot of consternation. There was still a lot of bad feeling by the largely defunct Balkan League towards the Central European *Communists, and they have threatened to walk out of talks several times without agreement being reached. The Royalist Spanish were furious at Britain and Portugal’s suggestion of inviting Red Spain to join the CMS, even as an observer, and while the Scandinavians were broadly in favour of the EFSR joining, Britain was wary of such a big industrial power (the world’s 2nd biggest economy) disrupting its trading dominance within the bloc. Only time will tell whether the capitalist nations of Europe can set the past aside and join hands with former rivals, even ones that have changed so much.

All the while, Paris and Moscow are fuming, and are carefully considering a response to the possible expansion of the Bourgeois Capitalist™ trade bloc on their doorstep. Meanwhile, they are also turning their eyes towards the various unaligned countries scattered about, and dream of driving a wedge between the members of Japan’s sphere of influence. The Co-Prosperity Sphere is becoming increasingly unbalanced – that is, away from Japan. As the Chinese states industrialise and rapidly grow their economies, calls for reunification are becoming increasingly loud.

And the global atomic arsenals are still on hair triggers…

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[1] But that’s just what they want you to think… ;):D
[2] This is completely unsurprising as (a) the place is packed with Japanese nationals, (b) the Japanese presided over a long period of prosperity, and (c) they weren’t that bothered about joining up with the Ch’ing.
[3] It was a close-run thing, though, only winning by a 10% margin over joining up with Red Spain. Tensions continue over its status to this day.
[4] The Dominion of the Bosporus is like a giant-sized Hong Kong, which is a liberal democracy, really, really doesn’t want to go back to the Turks (still Communist), and doesn’t particularly want to end up being a token autonomous province of its former parent. Unlike Hong Kong on the other hand, it would take a lot more than a platoon crossing the street to take the straits back, which the Red Turks can ill afford at the moment. Especially with their German paymasters having embarrassingly forgotten where they put the key to the deposit boxes…
[5] Think the EEC, but with more non-European members.
[6] No one particularly wanted members of the 3rd International to join in just yet.
 
And the map:

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The collapse of the Roman Empire was inevitable after Marcus II's assassination in 230 CE. Several Roman generals were acclaimed by their armies as the new King, sparking the Roman War of Succession. Twenty years of war tore the western half of the Roman Empire in twain as generals squabbled for control and frontiers were left open to Germanic invasions. Its tributary states declared independence, divesting themselves of Roman rule. Greek cities declared their allegiance to the Hellenic Empire. Over time, generals established a status quo between the dominions of Ravenna, Illyria, Macedonia, Syria, Gaul, and Spain, and the official Kingdom of Rome. The Gepids and Marcomanni brutally forged their own, staunchly independent kingdoms north of the Roman borders.
A shaky peace ensued for eight years, where the generals ruling over the regions called themselves Dominus and acted as federated lords paying homage to the King of Rome. But in 258 CE, Syrian and Armenian nobles tired of paying his homage and united under warlord Oedeniath to form an empire of their own centred at Palmyra. Officially, he declared himself King of the Assyrians. His empire stretched into southern Asia Minor, and was among the first of the dominions to separate themselves entirely from the sinking ship.
The tenuous peace cracked completely two years later, as the linking bridge between "Royal Asia Minor" and the Domain of Illyria declared independence as the Kingdom of Macedon. This cut the lines of communication between Asia Minor and the Roman domains of the West; the Palmyrene Empire prepared for a massive invasion, and the Lords divided themselves over support or opposition to war with Macedon and the Syrians.
Loving this map series, but could you perhaps link to the previous maps/chapters when you post a new one? I like to go back and compare new maps to the older ones, see if I missed anything etc. and it's a bit annoying to comb through the map thread for them each time.

Keep up the good work! :)
 
Just a random WIP. It's a four-color map because I'm lazy, but the only thing that's not intuitive is that Hawaii's not a part of the USA. Everything else should make sense.

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I tried my hand at making my own map (well, with the help of a sea-level-riser) and tried to make it look good. It probably looks horrible, of course, but here goes.

This is acutely inspired by "Ecce Homo Acadiensis", of course. This is a New England - Maritimes - Quebec map with the world sea level raised 110 meters.

In this world, society collapsed and over the course of 1000 years, everything went back to the 1000 CE, basically. There are some major differences, of course: Women's rights, gay rights, and essentially civil rights of all kind are accepted in these places. Of course, there isn't much differentiating races; interracial marriage became common and blurred the lines considerably.

Books were retained as well; most people know how to write, it's not limited to the clergy in 3000 - and so were common health ideals (being fat is not to be consider great, for example) but the technology and places of government in this is what compares 3000 CE to 1000 CE.

Linguistic drift has essentially changed made New York-ian and New England-ian different languages, especially due to the way they contact each other (trade and war, but language still changes) but they're almost Spanish and Portuguese in a way - they're extremely similar.

Likewise, Quebec has experienced substantial drift - if you dropped a Quebecois into France ITTL, they'd not be able to communicate more than a little - it's like English to German in this regard.

New York and Quebec as well as New England and Quebec share an England-France rivalry analogue ITTL; New York and New England possess an US-UK rivalry analogue.

I haven't extrapolated any actual linguistics, so everything's still in Modern English, of course. The map obviously sucks, and Ecce Homo Acadiensis is irrefutably much better, but I found this a nice little exercise in cartography. Couldn't hurt, anyway.

The map's a little big; fair warning.

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Been a while since I've taken part in one of these (or posted for that matter) but the topic of the map of the fortnight contest caught my interest.

The principle is highly implausible, but I liked the concept of it. I'll keep it concise as well, although if you want specifics then do not be afraid to ask. During the Middle Ages a deadly plague spreads across Eastern Europe, devastating areas of Russia, Ukraine, Lithuania and Poland. One of the groups which survived remarkably well were the Teutonic Order and the German settlers of the Baltic, referred to by their history henceforth as the Teutons, who overtime expanded into and (partially)colonized European Russia before moving into Siberia (in this world called Tartary or Tartarei in German). By the mid 1700s the recently unified German Empire (unified largely thanks to the ambitions and superior manpower of the Teutons) stretches from Alsace to the Pacific Ocean. Their last major threat to their dominion over Asia was the Chinese Ming Empire. However, China had recently begun to fall into chaos, as the Ming dynasty collapsed earlier than in our timeline and the lack of a clear heir resulted in a slow decline into anarchy. Those in the courts of the contenders who expressed concern that the northern barbarians were becoming surprisingly and dangerously well armed fell on deaf ears as the pretenders started to court German power in the hopes of securing their own position. Thus, Germany was dragged into the developing quagmire of China, playing court against court and would-be-emperor against would-be-emperor. Over the next century various areas of China came under German protection in a process the British East India Company would be impressed by until, in the 1880s, the last independent Chinese realm, the southern Long Empire, fell to German invasion over accusations of sponsoring partisan activities in the German sphere.

With the fall of the Long the whole of China had come under German rule. This rapidly became too hard to manage as a whole and in response the lawmakers in Konigsberg drafted the Declaration of the Ten "Governates" (a word developed in this timeline), which divided German China into ten smaller regions named after their capital city whose governments were separate from the various vassals and protectorates of the German Far East. The Ten Governates would remain until the 20th century, where growing nationalist uprisings eventually toppled German rule in China and later elsewhere in the vast empire. One remarkable feature of the German Empire was its strong multi-ethnic component. There were never as many German settlers in Tartary than Russians in Siberia, so they made far more extensive use of native populations of both Eastern Europe and Central Asia. In governing China Germans stood in service alongside not only Poles, Ukrainians, Georgians and Russians, but Turkemens, Mongols, Manchurians, Koreans, Kazakhs and even Yakuts as well. It is often said that the German Empire was not so much German as it was Germans sitting on top of the vast ethnic groups under their rule and nowhere was this more apparent than in China.

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Been a while since I've taken part in one of these (or posted for that matter) but the topic of the map of the fortnight contest caught my interest.
This map looks similar to the China portion of B_Munro's Azoth-7 map, which was in turn based on a GURPS scenario. There's German control over China, Tibet, Mongolia, Kora and Manchuria, with ten governorates in China, and even a governorate in Yunnan that includes a bit of northern Laos.

That being said, the differences in backstory are completely different between the two maps.
 
I tried my hand at making my own map (well, with the help of a sea-level-riser) and tried to make it look good. It probably looks horrible, of course, but here goes.

I think Lake Ontario should just be Ontario Bay. That's one reeeeaaaally wide river connecting the lake to the channel.
 
I tried my hand at making my own map (well, with the help of a sea-level-riser) and tried to make it look good. It probably looks horrible, of course, but here goes.

I love how the geography is changed by the sea level rise. Those alternate geographic names are really cool.
 
This map looks similar to the China portion of B_Munro's Azoth-7 map, which was in turn based on a GURPS scenario. There's German control over China, Tibet, Mongolia, Kora and Manchuria, with ten governorates in China, and even a governorate in Yunnan that includes a bit of northern Laos.

That being said, the differences in backstory are completely different between the two maps.
You are spot on. The Azoth-7 map is where most of the inspiration came from. There are some teaks here and there, like Japan being more based on the Holy Empire of Nipon map posted a while back and the initial idea came from a recent binge of British Siberia maps and an even older map series about a 'Teutonic Empire' which covered both Germany and Russia. The key difference is that I tried to go for a more plausible ASB rather than B_Munro's alchemically fuelled world conquest. I thought that, since B_Munro has done some excellent interpretations of other peoples maps, I could try a B_Munro one for myself. :)
 
You are spot on. The Azoth-7 map is where most of the inspiration came from. There are some teaks here and there, like Japan being more based on the Holy Empire of Nipon map posted a while back and the initial idea came from a recent binge of British Siberia maps and an even older map series about a 'Teutonic Empire' which covered both Germany and Russia. The key difference is that I tried to go for a more plausible ASB rather than B_Munro's alchemically fuelled world conquest. I thought that, since B_Munro has done some excellent interpretations of other peoples maps, I could try a B_Munro one for myself. :)

No problemo! And you have me thinking: since the Teutonic Knights expansion starts when they are still Catholics, they might pacify their conquered lands by inviting Catholics from all over Europe to keep the Orthodox down, so we have a religious heirarchy orthogonal to the racial one...the conquests of the East might be seen as a crusade against Orthodoxy. (Not sure how badly the Poles would do: OTL, internal communications in Poland in the 14th century were so crappy that they largely missed out on the first wave of the Black Death. In any event, they probably would be a peripheral interest of the east-oriented Teutons, and if depopulated by plague might become Germanized by settlers moving east from the HRE (which is how Silesia and Pomerania were lost OTL).

I wonder about Germany being fully united, especially if there is a religious split due to the *reformation: perhaps in the west there is a Catholic/Protestant solidly _German_ German state following the Other Religious Option and hostile to the heretical and "mongrelized" Teutons. Such a state would be supported and backed by France as a buffer against the Teutons: frankly, it's hard to see France being anything but a puppet of a Teuton empire extending from Alsace to hm, Alaska?

As I said: interesting concept, and I always like it when I inspire people... :)

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Loving this map series, but could you perhaps link to the previous maps/chapters when you post a new one? I like to go back and compare new maps to the older ones, see if I missed anything etc. and it's a bit annoying to comb through the map thread for them each time.

Keep up the good work! :)
Yeah, definitely.
And thank you. :)
 
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