Map Thread IX

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I approve of Dutch Turkey.

And Turkish Italy, and Greek Poland, and Swedish Ukraine.

Or The Kiat isn't using the T/RCS :p

Speaking of the map itself, what is the capitol of the UBSR? Even if it holds Istanbul I'd image its not there, as that would make it appear to be merely a greater Greece, and making it one of the republics' capitols would do the same thing but Bulgarian or Serbian or etc. Is there a federal district? Or perhaps a purpose built administrative city, à la the US?
 
Might I inquire as to just where you find these paper textures? I've never been able to find any that are up to snuff.

Google Image Search. Just search for "parchment texture" or similar, and specify large images. I think that particular one came from here originally, but I've stretched it and played around with the color balance a bit.
 
That is a pretty fine map.

Something I've been working on. The basemap was copied from one EdT likes to use (it was too good to only let you have it!) tried to make it look like something from a sober book about the atrocities.

That is a very impressive, if rather scary, map. It would appear about half of my home town's population is gone, what rotton luck :p

I'm rather curious, what precisely did Dublin do to deserve being blanketed in Anthrax?
 
LSCatalina said:
Very interesting. But some corrections should be done :
Thanks for the criticism. (Responding to a critique of my 481 Europe map on pg. 500 of Map Thread 8).

-Sygarius' domain. He certainly didn't controlled that much territory, at the contrary of traditionnal representations. At best, he controlled the core and had a relative influence on the remaining
Source? Every map I have found shows him with roughly this domain. Not to mention that his father, Aegedius, was able to rule over the Salian Franks after the banishment of Childeric (albeit over a decade prior to this map).

-Frisia : I'm not sure the Franks controlled that much of Frisia. In fact, this borders looks like the one three centuries later.
I was thinking the same thing as I was drawing it. This is the primary source map I used for most of Gaul.

-Cantabria : Why the Asturias and Cantabria are colored the same as the British islands?
I have to admit, I was getting lazy by this point. The next iteration of the map will have this fixed (and should have labels too).

-Vascons : They probably controlled much territory in the north, Labourd's region within. And probably the north part of upper's Ebre valley.
Looking at the map, it appears I did not even try to represent the Vascones properly. The next map will incorporate these suggestions.

And finally, i think you should represent the Gepid Kingdom in Dacia, as well the Ghassanids Arabs, as we know roughly their expansion.
The tan blob above Byzantium was meant to be the Gepids. The Ghassanids I plain forgot about.

Here is the map. A new map will be around sooner or later. More critiques are welcome; I want to knock out everything I can with the next map before I start putting labels on it.

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Source? Every map I have found shows him with roughly this domain. Not to mention that his father, Aegedius, was able to rule over the Salian Franks after the banishment of Childeric (albeit over a decade prior to this map).

Western border : technically, Brittons were under roman rule. Because of the process of britton settlement and that, you should "blur" the border, and eventually put a sign for "roman suzerainty".

Frankish border is even more unstable,

Regarding the source map, Vidal-Lablache is a good reference but the borders he choosed were arbitrary decided. Because one locality was described one century later as part of Sygarius, even if we have only a vague reference.

Whereas Burgunds and Visigoths had a roughly clear border (ancient Gallia Aquitania, Sapuadia, etc) because of ancient treaties, Sygarius technically didn't have any limitation of his power.

He was not the "king of what is between Normandy and Loire", but the Duke of Gallo-Roman militia. You can find maps showing his "kingdom" surrounding the franks, other just more present in the east, etc.

And they as valable than the Vidal. If the border of the Vidal are often copied, it's because of its fame. And its fame came in great part of the great number of maps reliying on it, etc.

The total absence of clear borders of Syagrius are quite interesiting in the sense where when Frankish conquered Aquitains, Burgundians, Alamans, Bavarians, etc.; you could find again their borders in sub-divisions or later autonomies.

But Gallo-Roman domain was totally merged into Neustria that do not really cover all the domain, or cover domain we know for sure Gallo-Romans didn't ruled.
 
Thanks! Yours is quite chilling. I'm curious about the story behind it... no-holds-barred war with Germany and/or a fascist takeover, it looks like?
They're close to fascist. They're much more anti-industrial. Think British Khmer Rouge (with 100% more Morris Dancing). Germany actually launched a preemptive attack, thinking Britain had no nukes. They didn't. France however...

That is a very impressive, if rather scary, map. It would appear about half of my home town's population is gone, what rotton luck :p

I'm rather curious, what precisely did Dublin do to deserve being blanketed in Anthrax?
Well, Ireland was actually spun off by the Socialists in the late 1930s, and the whole Island became a Republic. The Unionists did not take this very well. However, with less British support, they were able to do less then in OTL, however once the White Wyrm took over in Britain, they started shipping over huge quantities of weapons to unionists. This understandably, led the Irish government to be quite upset. They responded by invading parts of Britain (not that hard, the White Wyrms were not exactly sane by that point), and the White Wyrm responded by using part of the remaining Anthrax stores on Dublin. This really just made Ireland more upset, and with the Welsh and Scottish rebellions in full swing (there's a reason all those small Scottish border towns were massacred...), the WW couldn't do much. Dublin's still uninhabitable in the present day though.
 
I was looking around my hard drive, when I found a few maps I made, but haven't put on here. Here's one of a Far Eastern Roman Empire.

Note, Territories are somewhat akin to French departments, Governates have the independence of a US state, and the relationships between the Protectorates and Roma Occidental is akin to that between Denmark and Greenland.

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The Kingdom of Bulgaria after annexing Romania when the Central Powers win.

The Balkans are not my area, so if somebody could tell if that's plausible or ASB, it would be much appreciated.

And the map's top is west, not north.

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The Kingdom of Bulgaria after annexing Romania when the Central Powers win.

The Balkans are not my area, so if somebody could tell if that's plausible or ASB, it would be much appreciated.

And the map's top is west, not north.

Good looking and original.

Totally implausible. Such a bulgarian-wank would be far more on having San Stefano borders (Macedonia, all Thrace) than randomly annexing Rumania.
 
Bulgaria hasn't annexed Romania in that map, just Dobruja.

Okay. That was kind of hard to tell considering "modern borders" weren't overlayed. :p

But isn't Dobruja just a little less than half of what Romania had back then anyway, considered Transylvania had been under Austria-Hungary for more than 200 years at the time?
 
Based on my first Slavic Italy map from the previous map thread this that world 7oo years later. It is 1200 AD and while the Roman Empire rules the Mediterranean the Empire has been fractured. Civil War resulted in the loss of Egypt in 1155. The loss of Egypt was a blow to the empire, but not a fatal one thanks to imperial dominance of the Balkans, Italy, Anatolia, Iberia, and North Africa. The Empire barely retained Syria with its largely Monophysite population; still the loss of the Holy Land has hurt imperial moral. Iberia is still largely broken up into a number of smaller states, the smallest states playing Lusitania, Leon, and Rome off of each other to retain their independence. The Bulgarian Empire is a constant annoyance to its northern neighbors England and Francia and threatens Brittany routinely, launching raids, but never really doing a lot more than that. The Bulgars have lost their Turkic tongue and now speak a Romantic language. The Slavic states of Northern Italy are a lot like OTL Slovenia and are fairly romanized, even using the western alphabet. Lombardy has become a vassal of the Roman Empire and is protected from the Slavs by the Empire. Croatia is the largest of the Slavic Italian states, but its position is always being challenged by Serbia.

After the loss of Southern France the Franks were in a bad way, but a Charles Martel like figure rose to power and reclaimed Frankish glory by conquering Germany. With a lot of Franks leaving Bulgaria they relocated to the west and have pretty much Frankified and Christianized Germany. The region is united under the moniker the Kingdom of Francia, Bohemia, and Bavaria.

The combination of Frankish movement west and the lack of a greater Slavic state in Eastern Europe led to the migration of the Polanes people farther south into what would in OTL be known as Hungary. Here it is Polavia, a Slavic Kingdom that is very different from the Slavic states of Italy as it uses a Cyrillic-like alphabet developed by a Greek Orthodox priest. Because the Poles moved south the Lithuanians and Prussians did as well. The two fairly Frankified states are bulwarks against the Magyar Khaganate, who a have settled down a lot compared to what they were like then they first entered Eastern Europe.
The Volga Bulgars didn’t travel across Europe like their cousins and instead have set up shop in Northern Russia as the Bulgarian Khaganate. Few people confuse the two because they have become so different and because they are so far away from each other.

Persia has gotten rid of the Arab yoke, but was still islamified (or maybe it’s the other way around). The Caliphate rules from Baghdad, and though its power has weakened is still a threat to the Roman Empire, Aegypt, and Persia. The Caliphate has launched several attacks against Aegypt, but has been turned back every time either by the Aegyptians themselves of the Romans aiding the Aegyptians.

The states West Africa are mostly Orthodox Christians, but there are Coptic and Monophysite Christian states as well. Because of the lack of the Islamic conquest of North Africa there isn’t a significant Islamic population in West Africa.
How can you get with a POD in the VI century to the same borders in Hispania as IOTL Spain and Portugal? Do you know they are in fact quite arbitrary?
 
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