List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II

[CanadianTory]

Canadian Prime Ministers - Meech gets trickier?
Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative) 1984-1990
1984: John Turner (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)
1988 (min.): Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), Jean Chretien (Liberal), Preston Manning (Reform)
Lloyd Axworthy (Liberal) 1990-1998
1990 (min.): Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative), Preston Manning (Reform), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic)
1991: Brian Mulroney (Progressive Conservative), Preston Manning (Reform), Jim Maloway (New Democratic)
1995: Preston Manning (Reform), Lucien Bouchard (Progressive Conservative), Jim Maloway (New Democratic)
Stéphane Dion (Liberal) 1998-2006
1999 (min.): Preston Manning (Reform), Lucien Bouchard (Progressive Conservative), Bill Blaikie (New Democratic)
2001 (min.): Stephen Harper (Reform), Gilbert Chartrand (Progressive Conservative), Bill Blaikie (New Democratic)
2002: Stephen Harper (Reform), Bill Blaikie (New Democratic), Francois Legault (National Bloc), Hugh Segal (Progressive Conservative)
Jim Flaherty (Conservative) 2006-2012
2006 (min.): Stéphane Dion (Liberal), Francois Legault (National Bloc), Robert Chisholm (New Democratic)
2007: Bob Rae (Liberal), Francois Legault (National Bloc), Robert Chisholm (New Democratic)
2011 (min.): Christy Clark (Liberal), Robert Chisholm (New Democratic), Francois Legault (National Bloc)
Stephen Harper (Conservative) 2012-2013
Christy Clark (Liberal) 2013-
2013: Stephen Harper (Conservative), Robert Chisholm (New Democratic), Daniel Paillé (National Bloc)
2017 (min.): Tim Hudak (Conservative), Avi Lewis (New Democratic), Francois Legault (National Bloc)

 

[Turquoise Blue]

How I See "Liberal Republican and Conservative Democrats" lists.

Richard Nixon/Henry C. Lodge Jr. (Republican) 1961-1967
1960: def. John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1964: def. George Smathers/Orval Faubus (Democratic) and Hubert Humphrey/Martin Luther King Jr. (Progressive)
"Richard Nixon. Inexplicably a liberal progressive hero. Also, the Dems lose once and decide that liberalism is a failure so they go right-wing."

Henry C. Lodge Jr./Hiram Fong (Republican) 1967-1969
"Who to be Lodge's veep? Hmm... *looks at Wikipedia's 1968 Rep page* Ah!"

George Wallace/John G. Schmitz (Democratic) 1969-1977
1968: def. Henry C. Lodge/Hiram Fong (Republican)
1972: def. Nelson Rockefeller/George Bush (Republican)
"Um... How do I make the Dems go right-wing? Oh I know, President George Wallace, running with that guy the AIP nominated in 1972!"

Robert F. Kennedy/John B. Anderson (Republican) 1977-1985
1976: def. John G. Schmitz/Jesse Helms (Democratic)
1980: def. Jesse Helms/Ronald Reagan (Democratic)
"RFK survives and together with his family defects to the liberal Republicans!"

John B. Anderson/Jesse Jackson (Republican) 1985-1989
1984: def. Robert Casey/Strom Thurmond (Democratic)
"Anderson is the one liberal Republican I know circa the 1980s, so I'll use him!"

Gordon J. Humphrey/Richard Shelby (Democratic) 1989-1997
1988: def. John B. Anderson/Jesse Jackson (Republican)
1992: def. Bill Clinton/Hillary Rodham (Republican)
"Time for the right-wing Dems to have their time of dominance!"

Richard Shelby/Bob Smith (Democratic) 1997-2001
1996: def. Al Gore/Jerry Brown (Republican)
"Shelby wins because Humphrey's terms were successful!"

Ted Bundy/Joe Biden (Republican) 2001-2007*
2000: def. Richard Shelby/Bob Smith (Democratic)
2004: def. Donald Trump/David Duke (Democratic)
"I want some dystopia!"

Joe Biden/Hillary Rodham (Republican) 2007-2009
"Um... Hillary!"

Mitt Romney/John McCain (Democratic) 2009-2017
2008: def. Bernie Sanders/Marcy Kaptur (Labor) and Joe Biden/Hillary Rodham (Republican)
2012: def. Hillary Rodham/Tim Kaine (Republican)
"A business Democrat!"

Barack Obama/Stephen Colbert (Republican) 2017-present
2016: def. Steve Bannon/Joe Manchin (Democratic)
"Yes We Can!"

 

[Gentleman Biaggi]

How I See "Liberal Republican and Conservative Democrats" lists.

Richard Nixon/Henry C. Lodge Jr. (Republican) 1961-1967
1960: def. John F. Kennedy/Lyndon B. Johnson (Democratic)
1964: def. George Smathers/Orval Faubus (Democratic) and Hubert Humphrey/Martin Luther King Jr. (Progressive)
"Richard Nixon. Inexplicably a liberal progressive hero. Also, the Dems lose once and decide that liberalism is a failure so they go right-wing."

Henry C. Lodge Jr./Hiram Fong (Republican) 1967-1969
"Who to be Lodge's veep? Hmm... *looks at Wikipedia's 1968 Rep page* Ah!"

George Wallace/John G. Schmitz (Democratic) 1969-1977
1968: def. Henry C. Lodge/Hiram Fong (Republican)
1972: def. Nelson Rockefeller/George Bush (Republican)
"Um... How do I make the Dems go right-wing? Oh I know, President George Wallace, running with that guy the AIP nominated in 1972!"

Robert F. Kennedy/John B. Anderson (Republican) 1977-1985
1976: def. John G. Schmitz/Jesse Helms (Democratic)
1980: def. Jesse Helms/Ronald Reagan (Democratic)
"RFK survives and together with his family defects to the liberal Republicans!"

John B. Anderson/Jesse Jackson (Republican) 1985-1989
1984: def. Robert Casey/Strom Thurmond (Democratic)
"Anderson is the one liberal Republican I know circa the 1980s, so I'll use him!"

Gordon J. Humphrey/Richard Shelby (Democratic) 1989-1997
1988: def. John B. Anderson/Jesse Jackson (Republican)
1992: def. Bill Clinton/Hillary Rodham (Republican)
"Time for the right-wing Dems to have their time of dominance!"

Richard Shelby/Bob Smith (Democratic) 1997-2001
1996: def. Al Gore/Jerry Brown (Republican)
"Shelby wins because Humphrey's terms were successful!"

Ted Bundy/Joe Biden (Republican) 2001-2007*
2000: def. Richard Shelby/Bob Smith (Democratic)
2004: def. Donald Trump/David Duke (Democratic)
"I want some dystopia!"

Joe Biden/Hillary Rodham (Republican) 2007-2009
"Um... Hillary!"

Mitt Romney/John McCain (Democratic) 2009-2017
2008: def. Bernie Sanders/Marcy Kaptur (Labor) and Joe Biden/Hillary Rodham (Republican)
2012: def. Hillary Rodham/Tim Kaine (Republican)
"A business Democrat!"

Barack Obama/Stephen Colbert (Republican) 2017-present
2016: def. Steve Bannon/Joe Manchin (Democratic)
"Yes We Can!"

i at least put biaggi/traficant in once or twice

 

[Turquoise Blue]

I did one recently and tried to buck as many trends as I could.

Bucking as much trends as you can.

>Presidents Nelson Rockefeller and George Wallace.
>"Billy Blythe", despite the fact he was already calling himself Clinton by then.
>Republican Hubert Humphrey.
>Republican Walter Mondale.
>Barack Obama in 2004, as a Republican.
>Lots of other things.

If this is bucking as much trends as you can, then "LibReps vs. ConDems" lists are incredibly weak.

 

[Bene Tleilax]

Bucking as much trends as you can.

Thank you for the criticism. I will try and improve.

 

[Aaaaasima]

>Republican Hubert Humphrey.

Didn't he support Willkie in 1940?

 

[TPL99]

"Richard Nixon. Inexplicably a liberal progressive hero. Also, the Dems lose once and decide that liberalism is a failure so they go right-wing."

What's about "Nixon the Green" because EPA?

 

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Didn't he support Willkie in 1940?

Shhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Aolbain]

Didn't he support Willkie in 1940?

Hell, he claimed to be a Republican as late as 1942.

 

[Rosa Luxemburg]

Hell, he claimed to be a Republican as late as 1942.

Shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

 

[Fleetlord]

Bucking as much trends as you can.

>Presidents Nelson Rockefeller and George Wallace.
>"Billy Blythe", despite the fact he was already calling himself Clinton by then.
>Republican Hubert Humphrey.
>Republican Walter Mondale.
>Barack Obama in 2004, as a Republican.
>Lots of other things.

If this is bucking as much trends as you can, then "LibReps vs. ConDems" lists are incredibly weak.

We don't need you to be the new Japhy, thanks.

 

[Mumby]

Changing Places

1945-1951: Clement Attlee (Unionist)
1945 (Minority) def. (Liberal), (Popular)
1949 (Minority) def. (Liberal), (Popular)
1951-1955: Winston Churchill (Liberal)
1951 (Coalition with Populists) def. Clement Attlee (Unionist), (Popular)
1955-1957: Anthony Eden (Unionist)
1955 (Minority) def. (Popular), Winston Churchill (Liberal), (National Action)
1957-1963: Harold Macmillan (Popular)
1957 (Minority) def. Anthony Eden (Unionist), (National Action), (Liberal)
1961 (Coalition with Liberals) def. (Unionist), (Liberal)
1963-1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Popular)
1963 (Minority) def. (Unionist), (Liberal)
1964-1970: Harold Wilson (Liberal)
1964 (Minority) def. (Unionist), (Moderate Populist), (Left Populist)
1965 (Coalition with Centre) def. (Unionist), (Centre), (Popular)
1970-1974: Ted Heath (Unionist)
1970 (Coalition with Centre) def. (Liberal), (Popular), (Centre)
1974-1976: Harold Wilson (Liberal)
1974 (Coalition with Unionists and Centre) def. (Popular), (Unionist), (Freedom), (Centre)
1976-1979: Jim Callaghan (Popular)
1976 (Minority) def. (Liberal), (Freedom), (Unionist)
1979-1990: Margaret Thatcher (Liberal)
1979 (Coalition with Freedom) def. (Popular), (Freedom), (Unionist)
1982 (Minority) def. (Popular), (Unionist)
1987 (Minority) def. (Popular), (Unionist)
1990-1997: John Major (Popular)
1990 (Minority) def. (Unionist), (Liberal)
1993 (Grand Coalition with Unionists) def. (Unionist), (Liberal), (Radical Left)
1995 (Grand Coalition with Unionists) def. (Unionist), (Revolutionary Workers'), (Liberal), (Christian Democratic)
1997-2007: Tony Blair (Revolutionary Workers')
1997 (Minority) def. (Christian Democratic), (Liberal), (New Centre), (Liberty)
2000 (Majority) def. (Christian Democratic), (Common Sense Alliance)
2005 (Minority) def. (Christian Democratic), (Liberal), (Independent Parliamentary Group)
2007-2010: Gordon Brown (Christian Democratic)
2007 (Minority) def. (Revolutionary Workers'), (Liberal), (Independent Parliamentary Group)
2010-2016: David Cameron (Revolutionary Workers')
2010 (Minority) def. (Christian Democratic), (Liberal), (John Bull)
2011 (Majority) def. (Christian Democratic), (John Bull), (Liberal), (Bouquet Group)
2016-2018: Theresa May (Christian Democratic)
2016 (Majority) def. (Revolutionary Workers'), (Liberal), (Bouquet Group), (John Bull)

The enormous corruption scandals of the 1990s saw the collapse of Britain's traditional three-party system and a near-revolutionary transformation as the country has become polarised between Communism on the one hand and Theodemocracy on the other.

 

[Deleted member 83898]

Has anyone made a list or TL where noted Marxist/communist John Major actually implements a classless society?

 

[Hubert Humphrey Fan 1968]

1990-1997: John Major (Conservative)
1992: Neil Kinnock (Labour), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat)
1997-2005: Tony Blair (Labour)
1997: John Major (Conservative), Paddy Ashdown (Liberal Democrat)
2001: William Hague (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
2005 (Minority, Supply-and-Confidence with Liberal Democrats): Michael Portillo (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
2005-2009: Gordon Brown (Labour) [1]
2006 (Minority, Supply-and-Confidence with Liberal Democrats) [2]: Michael Portillo (Conservative), Charles Kennedy (Liberal Democrat)
2009-2015: Michael Portillo (Conservative)
2009 [3]: Gordon Brown (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2013: David Miliband (Labour), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)
2015-Present: George Osbourne (Conservative)
2016: David Miliband (Labour), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP), Nick Clegg (Liberal Democrat)

[1] After the 2005 Election resulted in a hung parliament, Blair announced he would resign as Labour Leader and Prime Minister by the end of the year.

[2] Unlike in OTL where Brown didn't call an election to capitalize on his initial bump upon becoming PM, he does here seeking to win a Majority. Although Labour do increase their number of seats, it isn't enough to win a Majority (and the Tories too increase their number of seats, as both major parties eat into the Lib Dems).

[3] With the Brown government's popularity having suffered immensely in the aftermath of the financial crisis, the Liberal Democrats withdraw their support of the government. A vote of no-confidence introduced by the Tories subsequently passes.

 

[KingCrawa]

Changing Places

1945-1951: Clement Attlee (Unionist)
1951-1955: Winston Churchill (Liberal)
1955-1957: Anthony Eden (Unionist)
1957-1963: Harold Macmillan (Popular)
1963-1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Popular)
1964-1970: Harold Wilson (Liberal)
1970-1974: Ted Heath (Unionist)
1974-1976: Harold Wilson (Liberal)
1976-1979: Jim Callaghan (Popular)
1979-1990: Margaret Thatcher (Liberal)
1990-1997: John Major (Popular)
1997-2007: Tony Blair (Revolutionary Workers')
2007-2010: Gordon Brown (Christian Democratic)
2010-2016: David Cameron (Revolutionary Workers')
2016-2018: Theresa May (Christian Democratic)

The enormous corruption scandals of the 1990s saw the collapse of Britain's traditional three-party system and a near-revolutionary transformation as the country has become polarised between Communism on the one hand and Theodemocracy on the other.

Party Rundown

Major Parties

Christian Democratic - Are currently debating whether to affiliate the Anglican Synod to the party. The Anglican Synod has other ideas, and it's caused a ruckus with non-Anglican backbenchers like Jacob Rees-Mogg.

Revolutionary Workers' - ANOTHER LEADERSHIP ELECTION. AAAAAAAA. Maybe an actual socialist will win this time.

Minor Parties

Liberal - Desperately trying to maintain their relevance by calling for the abolition of the state.

Mumby.

Brown and May in one party.

A Christian Democrat party.

My trousers.

 

[Deleted member 109445]

New Ideas in Camelot

1972-1980 Ted Kennedy
1980-1984 George Romney
1984-1988 Gary Hart
1988-1996 Jack Kemp
1996-2004 Hillary Rodham
2004-2012 Bill Clinton
2012-2016 Mitt Romney
2016- Barack Obama

 

[Beata Beatrix]

New Ideas in Camelot

1972-1980 Ted Kennedy
1980-1984 George Romney
1984-1988 Gary Hart
1988-1996 Jack Kemp
1996-2004 Hillary Rodham
2004-2012 Bill Clinton
2012-2016 Mitt Romney
2016- Barack Obama

George Romney in 1980? Aside from the rest of this - which is really convergent, I have to say - and the fact that presidents are inaugurated on the January 20th of the year after the election, I just think that the idea of George Romney in 1980 is almost impossible.

 

[Skinny87]

Changing Places

1945-1951: Clement Attlee (Unionist)
1945 (Minority) def. (Liberal), (Popular)
1949 (Minority) def. (Liberal), (Popular)
1951-1955: Winston Churchill (Liberal)
1951 (Coalition with Populists) def. Clement Attlee (Unionist), (Popular)
1955-1957: Anthony Eden (Unionist)
1955 (Minority) def. (Popular), Winston Churchill (Liberal), (National Action)
1957-1963: Harold Macmillan (Popular)
1957 (Minority) def. Anthony Eden (Unionist), (National Action), (Liberal)
1961 (Coalition with Liberals) def. (Unionist), (Liberal)
1963-1964: Alec Douglas-Home (Popular)
1963 (Minority) def. (Unionist), (Liberal)
1964-1970: Harold Wilson (Liberal)
1964 (Minority) def. (Unionist), (Moderate Populist), (Left Populist)
1965 (Coalition with Centre) def. (Unionist), (Centre), (Popular)
1970-1974: Ted Heath (Unionist)
1970 (Coalition with Centre) def. (Liberal), (Popular), (Centre)
1974-1976: Harold Wilson (Liberal)
1974 (Coalition with Unionists and Centre) def. (Popular), (Unionist), (Freedom), (Centre)
1976-1979: Jim Callaghan (Popular)
1976 (Minority) def. (Liberal), (Freedom), (Unionist)
1979-1990: Margaret Thatcher (Liberal)
1979 (Coalition with Freedom) def. (Popular), (Freedom), (Unionist)
1982 (Minority) def. (Popular), (Unionist)
1987 (Minority) def. (Popular), (Unionist)
1990-1997: John Major (Popular)
1990 (Minority) def. (Unionist), (Liberal)
1993 (Grand Coalition with Unionists) def. (Unionist), (Liberal), (Radical Left)
1995 (Grand Coalition with Unionists) def. (Unionist), (Revolutionary Workers'), (Liberal), (Christian Democratic)
1997-2007: Tony Blair (Revolutionary Workers')
1997 (Minority) def. (Christian Democratic), (Liberal), (New Centre), (Liberty)
2000 (Majority) def. (Christian Democratic), (Common Sense Alliance)
2005 (Minority) def. (Christian Democratic), (Liberal), (Independent Parliamentary Group)
2007-2010: Gordon Brown (Christian Democratic)
2007 (Minority) def. (Revolutionary Workers'), (Liberal), (Independent Parliamentary Group)
2010-2016: David Cameron (Revolutionary Workers')
2010 (Minority) def. (Christian Democratic), (Liberal), (John Bull)
2011 (Majority) def. (Christian Democratic), (John Bull), (Liberal), (Bouquet Group)
2016-2018: Theresa May (Christian Democratic)
2016 (Majority) def. (Revolutionary Workers'), (Liberal), (Bouquet Group), (John Bull)

The enormous corruption scandals of the 1990s saw the collapse of Britain's traditional three-party system and a near-revolutionary transformation as the country has become polarised between Communism on the one hand and Theodemocracy on the other.

John Major (Popular)

 

[Oppo]

the kingfish as dev

United States of America (Second Republic)

1933: Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner (Democratic)
1932: Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (Republican)
1933-1937: John Nance Garner/Vacant (Democratic)
1937-1945: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (America First)
1936: Alf Landon/Frank Knox (Republican), John Nance Garner/Joseph Kennedy (Democratic)
1940: Various Republicans
1945: Charles Lindberg/William Murray (America First)
1944: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler America First), Norman Thomas/Upton Sinclair (Socialist), Henrik Shipstead/Robert LaFollette Jr. (Famer-Labor)

United States of America (Third Republic)

1945-1953: Lyndon B. Johnson/Estes Kefauver (Common Society)
1945: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (Crown Everyman A King), Henrik Shipstead/Robert LaFollette Jr. (Farmer-Labor), Norman Thomas/Upton Sinclair (Socialist)
1949: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (Crown Everyman A King), Norman Thomas/Upton Sinclair (Socialist), Robert LaFollette Jr./Dudley Field Malone (Farmer-Labor)
1953-1958: Huey Long/Gerald L.K. Smith (Crown Everyman A King)
1953: Lyndon B. Johnson/Estes Kefauver (Common Society), Wendell Willkie/Franklin Roosevelt Jr. (Willkie Team), George Meany/Edwin Knappe (Socialist)
1957: Lyndon B. Johnson/Estes Kefauver (Common Society), George Meany/Edwin Knappe (Socialist)

United States of America (Fourth Republic)

1958-1968: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King)
1959: Lyndon B. Johnson (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist)
1963: Lyndon B. Johnson (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist), George McGovern (Grange)
1964: Daniel Inouye (Columbia), Eugene McCarthy (Grange), George Meany (Socialist)
1968-1971: George Wallace (Columbia-Rainbow Coalition)
1968: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King), Daniel Inouye (Columbia), Sam Yorty (American), George Meany (Socialist), Eugene McCarthy (Grange)
1971-1974: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King)
1971: Daniel Inouye (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist)
1974-1978: George Wallace (Columbia-Rainbow Coalition)
1974: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King), Daniel Inouye (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist)
1978-1980: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King)
1978: Daniel Inouye (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist), R. Douglas Stewart Jr. (America First)

 

[AndrewH]

the kingfish as dev

United States of America (Second Republic)

1933: Franklin D. Roosevelt/John Nance Garner (Democratic)
1932: Herbert Hoover/Charles Curtis (Republican)
1933-1937: John Nance Garner/Vacant (Democratic)
1937-1945: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (America First)
1936: Alf Landon/Frank Knox (Republican), John Nance Garner/Joseph Kennedy (Democratic)
1940: Various Republicans
1945: Charles Lindberg/William Murray (America First)
1944: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler America First), Norman Thomas/Upton Sinclair (Socialist), Henrik Shipstead/Robert LaFollette Jr. (Famer-Labor)

United States of America (Third Republic)

1945-1953: Lyndon B. Johnson/Estes Kefauver (Common Society)
1945: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (Crown Everyman A King), Henrik Shipstead/Robert LaFollette Jr. (Farmer-Labor), Norman Thomas/Upton Sinclair (Socialist)
1949: Huey Long/Burton K. Wheeler (Crown Everyman A King), Norman Thomas/Upton Sinclair (Socialist), Robert LaFollette Jr./Dudley Field Malone (Farmer-Labor)
1953-1958: Huey Long/Gerald L.K. Smith (Crown Everyman A King)
1953: Lyndon B. Johnson/Estes Kefauver (Common Society), Wendell Willkie/Franklin Roosevelt Jr. (Willkie Team), George Meany/Edwin Knappe (Socialist)
1957: Lyndon B. Johnson/Estes Kefauver (Common Society), George Meany/Edwin Knappe (Socialist)

United States of America (Fourth Republic)

1958-1968: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King)
1959: Lyndon B. Johnson (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist)
1963: Lyndon B. Johnson (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist), George McGovern (Grange)
1964: Daniel Inouye (Columbia), Eugene McCarthy (Grange), George Meany (Socialist)
1968-1971: George Wallace (Columbia-Rainbow Coalition)
1968: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King), Daniel Inouye (Columbia), Sam Yorty (American), George Meany (Socialist), Eugene McCarthy (Grange)
1971-1974: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King)
1971: Daniel Inouye (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist)
1974-1978: George Wallace (Columbia-Rainbow Coalition)
1974: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King), Daniel Inouye (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist)
1978-1980: Huey Long (Crown Everyman A King)
1978: Daniel Inouye (Columbia), George Meany (Socialist), R. Douglas Stewart Jr. (America First)

George Meany makes no sense as a Socialist leader.