Leaving aside that this list is already heavily butterfly-netted, just because John Wolfe was the Some Dude who ran against an incumbent President and benefited from the votes of disgruntled Demosaurs doesn't mean he ever had a serious chance of high office.
List of Alternate Presidents and PMs II
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Sorry, it's not about his poliical views, it's just that IOTL Wolfe was an unknown attorney who only acheived minor name recognition by being the proxy for "I Object" in what was otherwise a coronation for the party's incumbent POTUS. Absent that, how did he acheive the profile to win the nomination of... say, @Sailor Haumea, what party is Wolfe even supposed to be? I assumed Democrat, but he's a one-termer followed by President Bernie, so now I'm not sure.
Today I learned James Stockdale's full name. And he predates the fictional character by 30 years. Wow.
I started out with the goal of having the Labour Party become a right-wing party like the Mexican IRP, and I ended up with Clive Lord as Prime Minister for three decades.
After a series of by-election wins during the War, an alliance with Radical Action, and the continuation of the war time government until the fall of Japan, the Common Wealth Party have a strong hand for the 1946 election, winning 12 seats. Like IOTL, Labour loses the 1951 election to the Conservative Party (with Common Wealth gaining seats). Attlee loses the 1956 election to a frail Churchill (staying on after Eden's 1953 death), with a safe Conservative majority. Herbert Morrison takes over the leadership after Gaitskell suffers from poor health along with a pact made with Bevan to withdraw in his favor. Morrison's leadership provides a field day for Common Wealth, despite his urgings in 1945 to end the coalition. Churchill also steps down right after the election, with Gwilym Lloyd George being able to unite the Conservatives, Liberal Nationals, and Liberals into the "Democratic Party." After averting any issues with Suez, Lloyd George continues a narrow Democratic majority in a presidential-like race; with the media focusing on the age of Lloyd George and Morrison along with a brother and sister leading two different parties. After six years in Number 10 and approaching 70 years old, Lloyd George steps down in favor of the young Anthony Nutting, who defeats the parachuted in Malcolm MacDonald and the out of touch Ralph Miliband.
With strikes and the student protests, the British political system had been turned upside down, with some even thinking of Ralph Miliband entering Number 10. However, war with the Soviet Union breaks out, and Britain's boys are sent off to a foreign land once more. Nutting's...unique temper hurts relations with the newly returning President Stassen. Unlike in 1939, there is no rally around the flag effort from Britain, with young men dodging the draft by running off to Ireland.
It’s 1975. The war is over, but at what cost? Much of Britain has been bombed to oblivion (or have already died from nuclear fallout), and Nutting has returned from his exile in Alberta. Britain wants change, and only the party that wanted to stop this war could deliver it. With the young radical (even by Common Wealth standards) Clive Lord removing Miliband from the leadership, Common Wealth wins a landslide of almost 500 seats. The Democrats are wiped out to less than 10 seats, with the Labour Party and Forces of Britannia (the rebooted Union Movement) taking the majority of the remaining seats. The ILP manages to finish with 15% of the vote, but are relegated to just four seats. Lord’s tenure as Prime Minister was the most important in the history of the U.K., with Lord saying in his victory speech that he would “make Attlee look like he did nothing.” Lord introduced a universal basic income, adopted managerialism, and reversed the war-time security measures that Nutting made. Despite the opposition attempting to form pacts and unity agreements, Common Wealth remained with over 400 seats each time. Neil Hamilton came close, but his decision to contest the 2000 election as a group of independents left Lord to remain for another term. The fall of Lord would take place in 2004, after William Rodgers (protege of the late Ralph Miliband) launched a breakaway ICWP, the longtime cabinet Minister Chris Huhne began to fight with the Prime Minister, and the popular war hero Roy Major took over the Labour Party. Common Wealth narrowly remained, but Lord’s leadership was over. Huhne kissed hands with the Queen, and Lord Left the country for New Zealand, where he’s spent his life in semi-retirement (minus an unsuccessful run for the NZ Parliament).
Without the figure of Lord, the new Left Team is formed from various minor parties and union leaders. Rodgers joines the team, but many of the ICWP rejoined the main party. Through the diaries and secret tapes of Chris Huhne, a portrait of the man’s term is revealed (the play/movie Huhne’s House is a much watch). By scaling back the reforms of Lord, he alienated the key Common Wealth voters and syndicates. Major took the initiative to attract voters who hadn’t voted Labour since the 1950s, and become the first Labour PM since Attlee. The United Kingdom was looking for a new rebuilding era. The nation would have hope again. If only he had lived.
Bercow, the uninspiring sidekick of Major took office. As he took various foolish steps, Lord’s hatchet man, Bob Crow won the 2013 election in a landslide. As he moved from syndicalism to communism, the political opposition became oppressed by the most tyrannical leader on the island of Great Britain since Oliver Cromwell.
Tom Tugendhat’s coup had been building for years. As Crow purged the military of older and expirenced figures, the new radicals began plotting. With support from the inside of Crow’s cabinet from Douglas Carswell, and President William Stassen ready to take military action - Crow was forced out. The free elections in 2020 were a free for all. On paper, you’d expect a win from Tughenhadt and the LCP, but that was not the case as he was seen as too pro-American and too right-wing. Carswell also faced criticism for standing by Crow his entire career. And while the blind and one legged Gordon Brown has made the ILP relevant, the horrors of the USSR would prevent them from winning in 2020.
In the end, the third man that completely changed British society post-War was Paul Nuttall. The teacher and former professional football player took office by playing to the social and economic concerns of the era. It looks as though Britian will return to another glory period.
1946-1951: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1946 (Majority): Winston Churchill (Conservative), C.A. Smith/Megan Lloyd George (Common Wealth-Radical Action Liberal Alliance), Ernest Brown (Liberal National), Sir Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Bob Edwards (Independent Labour)
1951-1956: Winston Churchill (Conservative)
1951 (Majority): Clement Attlee (Labour), C.A. Smith (Common Wealth), Ernest Brown (Liberal National), William John Gruffydd (Liberal)
1956 (Majority): Clement Attlee (Labour), C.A. Smith (Common Wealth), Charles Hill (Liberal National), Donald Wade (Liberal)
1956-1958: Gwilym Lloyd George (Conservative majority)
1958-1962: Gwilym Lloyd George (Democratic)
1960 (Majority): Herbert Morrison (Labour), Megan Lloyd George (Common Wealth)
1962-1969: Anthony Nutting (Democratic)
1964 (Majority): Malcolm MacDonald (Labour), Ralph Miliband (Common Wealth)
1969-1975: Anthony Nutting (Democratic leading War Coalition with Labour, Social Credit & Liverpool Protestant)
1975-2004: Clive Lord (Common Wealth)
1975 (Majority): Jack Dormand (Labour), Max Mosley (Forces of Britannia), Anthony Nutting (Democratic)
1980 (Majority): Jack Dormand (Labour), William Whitelaw (Democratic), Max Mosley (Forces of Britannia)
1984 (Majority): David Steel (Labour), William Rees-Mogg (Heritage), Alan Sked (Continuity Democrats - The Liberal Market Alliance)
1988 (Majority): Vince Cable (Labour), Terry Dicks (Heritage)
1992 (Majority): Vince Cable (Labour), Terry Dicks (Heritage)
1996 (Majority): Neil Hamilton (Stop Lord Coalition - Labour, Heritage, Social Credit)
2000 (Majority): Neil Hamilton (Independents For Reform)
2004 (Majority): Roy Major (Labour), Will Rodgers (Independent Common Wealth)
2004-2009: Chris Huhne (Common Wealth majority)
2009-2011: Roy Major (Labour)
2009 (Majority): Chris Huhne (Common Wealth), Alan Johnson (Left Team)
2011-2013: John Bercow (Labour majority)
2013-2019: Bob Crow (Common Wealth)
2013 (Majority): John Bercow (Labour), Alan Johnson (Progressive)
2018 (Majority): Barry Sheerman [missing] (Labour), Elizabeth Truss (Progressive)
2019-2020: Tom Tugendhat (Military government with the support of Pro-Tugendhat Common Wealth, Labour, Progressives & Independent Labour)
2020-Present: Paul Nuttall (Labour - Soldiers of 2020)
2020 (Majority): Elizabeth Truss (Progressive), Tom Tugendhat (Liberal-Conservative), Douglas Carswell (Pro-Tugendhat Common Wealth), Gordon Brown (Independent Labour)
After a series of by-election wins during the War, an alliance with Radical Action, and the continuation of the war time government until the fall of Japan, the Common Wealth Party have a strong hand for the 1946 election, winning 12 seats. Like IOTL, Labour loses the 1951 election to the Conservative Party (with Common Wealth gaining seats). Attlee loses the 1956 election to a frail Churchill (staying on after Eden's 1953 death), with a safe Conservative majority. Herbert Morrison takes over the leadership after Gaitskell suffers from poor health along with a pact made with Bevan to withdraw in his favor. Morrison's leadership provides a field day for Common Wealth, despite his urgings in 1945 to end the coalition. Churchill also steps down right after the election, with Gwilym Lloyd George being able to unite the Conservatives, Liberal Nationals, and Liberals into the "Democratic Party." After averting any issues with Suez, Lloyd George continues a narrow Democratic majority in a presidential-like race; with the media focusing on the age of Lloyd George and Morrison along with a brother and sister leading two different parties. After six years in Number 10 and approaching 70 years old, Lloyd George steps down in favor of the young Anthony Nutting, who defeats the parachuted in Malcolm MacDonald and the out of touch Ralph Miliband.
With strikes and the student protests, the British political system had been turned upside down, with some even thinking of Ralph Miliband entering Number 10. However, war with the Soviet Union breaks out, and Britain's boys are sent off to a foreign land once more. Nutting's...unique temper hurts relations with the newly returning President Stassen. Unlike in 1939, there is no rally around the flag effort from Britain, with young men dodging the draft by running off to Ireland.
It’s 1975. The war is over, but at what cost? Much of Britain has been bombed to oblivion (or have already died from nuclear fallout), and Nutting has returned from his exile in Alberta. Britain wants change, and only the party that wanted to stop this war could deliver it. With the young radical (even by Common Wealth standards) Clive Lord removing Miliband from the leadership, Common Wealth wins a landslide of almost 500 seats. The Democrats are wiped out to less than 10 seats, with the Labour Party and Forces of Britannia (the rebooted Union Movement) taking the majority of the remaining seats. The ILP manages to finish with 15% of the vote, but are relegated to just four seats. Lord’s tenure as Prime Minister was the most important in the history of the U.K., with Lord saying in his victory speech that he would “make Attlee look like he did nothing.” Lord introduced a universal basic income, adopted managerialism, and reversed the war-time security measures that Nutting made. Despite the opposition attempting to form pacts and unity agreements, Common Wealth remained with over 400 seats each time. Neil Hamilton came close, but his decision to contest the 2000 election as a group of independents left Lord to remain for another term. The fall of Lord would take place in 2004, after William Rodgers (protege of the late Ralph Miliband) launched a breakaway ICWP, the longtime cabinet Minister Chris Huhne began to fight with the Prime Minister, and the popular war hero Roy Major took over the Labour Party. Common Wealth narrowly remained, but Lord’s leadership was over. Huhne kissed hands with the Queen, and Lord Left the country for New Zealand, where he’s spent his life in semi-retirement (minus an unsuccessful run for the NZ Parliament).
Without the figure of Lord, the new Left Team is formed from various minor parties and union leaders. Rodgers joines the team, but many of the ICWP rejoined the main party. Through the diaries and secret tapes of Chris Huhne, a portrait of the man’s term is revealed (the play/movie Huhne’s House is a much watch). By scaling back the reforms of Lord, he alienated the key Common Wealth voters and syndicates. Major took the initiative to attract voters who hadn’t voted Labour since the 1950s, and become the first Labour PM since Attlee. The United Kingdom was looking for a new rebuilding era. The nation would have hope again. If only he had lived.
Bercow, the uninspiring sidekick of Major took office. As he took various foolish steps, Lord’s hatchet man, Bob Crow won the 2013 election in a landslide. As he moved from syndicalism to communism, the political opposition became oppressed by the most tyrannical leader on the island of Great Britain since Oliver Cromwell.
Tom Tugendhat’s coup had been building for years. As Crow purged the military of older and expirenced figures, the new radicals began plotting. With support from the inside of Crow’s cabinet from Douglas Carswell, and President William Stassen ready to take military action - Crow was forced out. The free elections in 2020 were a free for all. On paper, you’d expect a win from Tughenhadt and the LCP, but that was not the case as he was seen as too pro-American and too right-wing. Carswell also faced criticism for standing by Crow his entire career. And while the blind and one legged Gordon Brown has made the ILP relevant, the horrors of the USSR would prevent them from winning in 2020.
In the end, the third man that completely changed British society post-War was Paul Nuttall. The teacher and former professional football player took office by playing to the social and economic concerns of the era. It looks as though Britian will return to another glory period.
1946-1951: Clement Attlee (Labour)
1946 (Majority): Winston Churchill (Conservative), C.A. Smith/Megan Lloyd George (Common Wealth-Radical Action Liberal Alliance), Ernest Brown (Liberal National), Sir Archibald Sinclair (Liberal), Bob Edwards (Independent Labour)
1951-1956: Winston Churchill (Conservative)
1951 (Majority): Clement Attlee (Labour), C.A. Smith (Common Wealth), Ernest Brown (Liberal National), William John Gruffydd (Liberal)
1956 (Majority): Clement Attlee (Labour), C.A. Smith (Common Wealth), Charles Hill (Liberal National), Donald Wade (Liberal)
1956-1958: Gwilym Lloyd George (Conservative majority)
1958-1962: Gwilym Lloyd George (Democratic)
1960 (Majority): Herbert Morrison (Labour), Megan Lloyd George (Common Wealth)
1962-1969: Anthony Nutting (Democratic)
1964 (Majority): Malcolm MacDonald (Labour), Ralph Miliband (Common Wealth)
1969-1975: Anthony Nutting (Democratic leading War Coalition with Labour, Social Credit & Liverpool Protestant)
1975-2004: Clive Lord (Common Wealth)
1975 (Majority): Jack Dormand (Labour), Max Mosley (Forces of Britannia), Anthony Nutting (Democratic)
1980 (Majority): Jack Dormand (Labour), William Whitelaw (Democratic), Max Mosley (Forces of Britannia)
1984 (Majority): David Steel (Labour), William Rees-Mogg (Heritage), Alan Sked (Continuity Democrats - The Liberal Market Alliance)
1988 (Majority): Vince Cable (Labour), Terry Dicks (Heritage)
1992 (Majority): Vince Cable (Labour), Terry Dicks (Heritage)
1996 (Majority): Neil Hamilton (Stop Lord Coalition - Labour, Heritage, Social Credit)
2000 (Majority): Neil Hamilton (Independents For Reform)
2004 (Majority): Roy Major (Labour), Will Rodgers (Independent Common Wealth)
2004-2009: Chris Huhne (Common Wealth majority)
2009-2011: Roy Major (Labour)
2009 (Majority): Chris Huhne (Common Wealth), Alan Johnson (Left Team)
2011-2013: John Bercow (Labour majority)
2013-2019: Bob Crow (Common Wealth)
2013 (Majority): John Bercow (Labour), Alan Johnson (Progressive)
2018 (Majority): Barry Sheerman [missing] (Labour), Elizabeth Truss (Progressive)
2019-2020: Tom Tugendhat (Military government with the support of Pro-Tugendhat Common Wealth, Labour, Progressives & Independent Labour)
2020-Present: Paul Nuttall (Labour - Soldiers of 2020)
2020 (Majority): Elizabeth Truss (Progressive), Tom Tugendhat (Liberal-Conservative), Douglas Carswell (Pro-Tugendhat Common Wealth), Gordon Brown (Independent Labour)
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For what it's worth, the PRI isn't "right-wing" but instead a non-ideological party of power that currently espouses neoliberal technocratic centrism (and has since the late 1970s) after decades of alternating between leftist populists and rightist conservatives as a general ploy to maintain power.
This is brilliant, as sad as I am to see Labour swing to the right it's an interesting thought experiment with some real merit. I'll immediately like anything with a large Common Wealth and a 30 year rule by them makes me very happy indeed. The idea of a British election between Common Wealth, Labour and Progressives (even if the truth behind the names isn't much more left wing than OTL) is a dream come true tbh.
Just an idea for a potential future TL I might get around to writing one of these days.
1837-1841 Martin Van Buren/ Richard M. Johnson [Democratic Party]
1841-1845 William H. Harrison/John Tyler [Whig Party]
1845-1849 James K Polk/George M. Dallas [Democratic Party]
1849-1853 Lewis Cass/James Buchanan [Democratic Party]
1853-1857 Millard Fillmore/John J. Crittenden [Whig Party]
1857-1861 Stephen A. Douglas/John C. Breckinridge [Democratic Party]
1861-1865 Abraham Lincoln/Salmon P. Chase [Republican Party]
1865-1869 Abraham Lincoln/Simon Cameron [Republican Party]
1869-1873 Ulysses S. Grant/Schuyler Colfax [Republican Party]
1873-1877 Ulysses S. Grant/Henry Wilson [Republican Party]
1877-1881 James G. Blaine/Chester A. Arthur [Republican Party]
1881-1882 Samuel J. Tilden*/Winfield S. Hancock [Democratic Party]
1882-1885 Winfield S. Hancock/vacant [Democratic Party]
1885-1893 Grover Cleveland/John C. Black [Democratic Party]
1893-1897 William McKinley/John Sherman [Republican Party]
1897-1901 William J. Bryan/Arthur Sewall [joint Democratic-Populist ticket]
1901-1902 William J. Bryan*/Richard P. Bland [Democratic-Populist]
1902-1905 Richard P. Bland/vacant [Democratic-Populist]
1905-1909 Theodore Roosevelt/Charles W. Fairbanks [Republican Party]
1909-1913 Theodore Roosevelt/William H. Taft [Republican Party]
1913-1917 William H. Taft/Robert LaFollete [Republican Party]
1917-1921 Champ Clark/Judson Harmon [Democratic Party]
1921-1925 Hiram Johnson/Nicholas Butler [Republican Party]
1925-1929 William Gibbs McAdoo/Al Smith [Democratic Party]
1929-1933 Cordell Hull/James A. Red [Democratic Party]
1933-1937 James E. Watson/Frank O. Lowden [Republican Party]
1937-1941 John Nance Garner/Henry S. Breckinridge [Democratic Party]
1941-1949 John Nance Garner/James M. Cox [Democratic Party]
1949-1953 Joseph Akers/David Robertson [Democratic Party]
1953-incumbent William Timberlake/Harold Reed [Populist Party]
* = assassinated
Italics = original character
1837-1841 Martin Van Buren/ Richard M. Johnson [Democratic Party]
1841-1845 William H. Harrison/John Tyler [Whig Party]
1845-1849 James K Polk/George M. Dallas [Democratic Party]
1849-1853 Lewis Cass/James Buchanan [Democratic Party]
1853-1857 Millard Fillmore/John J. Crittenden [Whig Party]
1857-1861 Stephen A. Douglas/John C. Breckinridge [Democratic Party]
1861-1865 Abraham Lincoln/Salmon P. Chase [Republican Party]
1865-1869 Abraham Lincoln/Simon Cameron [Republican Party]
1869-1873 Ulysses S. Grant/Schuyler Colfax [Republican Party]
1873-1877 Ulysses S. Grant/Henry Wilson [Republican Party]
1877-1881 James G. Blaine/Chester A. Arthur [Republican Party]
1881-1882 Samuel J. Tilden*/Winfield S. Hancock [Democratic Party]
1882-1885 Winfield S. Hancock/vacant [Democratic Party]
1885-1893 Grover Cleveland/John C. Black [Democratic Party]
1893-1897 William McKinley/John Sherman [Republican Party]
1897-1901 William J. Bryan/Arthur Sewall [joint Democratic-Populist ticket]
1901-1902 William J. Bryan*/Richard P. Bland [Democratic-Populist]
1902-1905 Richard P. Bland/vacant [Democratic-Populist]
1905-1909 Theodore Roosevelt/Charles W. Fairbanks [Republican Party]
1909-1913 Theodore Roosevelt/William H. Taft [Republican Party]
1913-1917 William H. Taft/Robert LaFollete [Republican Party]
1917-1921 Champ Clark/Judson Harmon [Democratic Party]
1921-1925 Hiram Johnson/Nicholas Butler [Republican Party]
1925-1929 William Gibbs McAdoo/Al Smith [Democratic Party]
1929-1933 Cordell Hull/James A. Red [Democratic Party]
1933-1937 James E. Watson/Frank O. Lowden [Republican Party]
1937-1941 John Nance Garner/Henry S. Breckinridge [Democratic Party]
1941-1949 John Nance Garner/James M. Cox [Democratic Party]
1949-1953 Joseph Akers/David Robertson [Democratic Party]
1953-incumbent William Timberlake/Harold Reed [Populist Party]
* = assassinated
Italics = original character
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Populism, Populism shall rule (A very lazy list)
George Wallace/Adlai Stevenson III (Democratic) 1973-1981
1972 Def. Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (Republican) George McGovern/Shirley Chisholm (Progressive)
1976 Def. Jerry Brown/Bill Proxmire (Progressive) Spiro Agnew/John Tower (Republican) Ronald Reagan/Various (Write-In Republican)[1]
Bill Proxmire/Alan Cranston (Progressive) 1981-1989
1980 Def. John Connally/Henry Jackson (Democratic) Phil Crane/Jim Thompson (Republican)
1984 Def. Reubin Askew/Gary Hart (Democratic) Jack Kemp/various (Republican)[2]
Al Gore/Paul Simon (Democratic) 1989-1997
1988 Def. Mario Cuomo/Jesse Jackson (Progressive)
1992 Def. Mickey Leland/Lane Evans (Progressive)
Bill Bradley!/Barbra Jordan (Progressive) 1997-2000
Barbra Jordan/Paul Wellstone (Progressive) 2000-2009
1996 Def. Paul Simon/Jimmy Griffin (Democratic)
2000 Def. Sam Nunn/Tim Penny (Democratic)
2004 Def. Bob Graham/David L. Boren
Donald Trump/John Edwards* (Democratic) 2009-2011
Donald Trump/Jim Webb (Democratic) 2011-2013
Def. Paul Wellstone/Barack Obama (Progressive)
Sherrod Brown (Progressive) 2013-0000
2012 Def. Donald Trump/Jim Webb (Democratic)
2016 Def. Joe Manchin/Bill Nelson (Democratic)
[1] due to Agnew’s Bribery scandal, Ronald Reagan began a write-in campaign for the presidency, he didn’t get official write-in status in most states, however, he did get second place to Jerry Brown in California
[2] Following the 1984 election, the National Republican Party ceased to exist, although there were still Statewide Republicans in the House until 2002.
George Wallace/Adlai Stevenson III (Democratic) 1973-1981
1972 Def. Richard Nixon/Spiro Agnew (Republican) George McGovern/Shirley Chisholm (Progressive)
1976 Def. Jerry Brown/Bill Proxmire (Progressive) Spiro Agnew/John Tower (Republican) Ronald Reagan/Various (Write-In Republican)[1]
Bill Proxmire/Alan Cranston (Progressive) 1981-1989
1980 Def. John Connally/Henry Jackson (Democratic) Phil Crane/Jim Thompson (Republican)
1984 Def. Reubin Askew/Gary Hart (Democratic) Jack Kemp/various (Republican)[2]
Al Gore/Paul Simon (Democratic) 1989-1997
1988 Def. Mario Cuomo/Jesse Jackson (Progressive)
1992 Def. Mickey Leland/Lane Evans (Progressive)
Bill Bradley!/Barbra Jordan (Progressive) 1997-2000
Barbra Jordan/Paul Wellstone (Progressive) 2000-2009
1996 Def. Paul Simon/Jimmy Griffin (Democratic)
2000 Def. Sam Nunn/Tim Penny (Democratic)
2004 Def. Bob Graham/David L. Boren
Donald Trump/John Edwards* (Democratic) 2009-2011
Donald Trump/Jim Webb (Democratic) 2011-2013
Def. Paul Wellstone/Barack Obama (Progressive)
Sherrod Brown (Progressive) 2013-0000
2012 Def. Donald Trump/Jim Webb (Democratic)
2016 Def. Joe Manchin/Bill Nelson (Democratic)
[1] due to Agnew’s Bribery scandal, Ronald Reagan began a write-in campaign for the presidency, he didn’t get official write-in status in most states, however, he did get second place to Jerry Brown in California
[2] Following the 1984 election, the National Republican Party ceased to exist, although there were still Statewide Republicans in the House until 2002.
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My First Canadian list: No Chrétien Ad
Jean Chrétien (Liberal) 1993-1996
Def. Kim Campbell (Progressive Conservative) Lucien Bouchard (Bloc Quebecois) Preston Manning (Reform) Audrey McLaughlin (NDP) Mel Hurtig (National)
Kim Campbell (Progressive Conservative) 1996-2003
1996 Def. Lorne Nystrom (NDP) Preston Manning (Reform) Jean Chrétien (Liberal) Mel Hurtig (National)
2001 Def. Jack Layton (NDP) Stockwell Day (Reform) Don Boudria (Liberal) Mel Hurting (National)
Jack Layton (Democratic) 2003-2011*
Deborah Coyne (Democratic) 2011-2012
2003 Def. Bernard Lord (Progressive Conservative) Stephen Harper (Reform) Inky Mark (National)
2007 Def. Tim Hudak (Progressive Conservative) John Nunziata (National) Stephen Harper (Reform) Elizabeth May (Green)
Tim Hudak (Progressive Conservative minority government) 2012-2014
Tim Hudak (Progressive Conservative majority government) 2014-0000
2012 Def. Deborah Coyne (Democratic) Pat Martin (Western Alliance)[1] Greg Hargrove (Reform) John Nunziata ("Eastern" National) Elizabeth May (Green)
2014 Def. Gerard Kennedy (Democratic) Pat Martin (Western Alliance) Pierre Lemieux (Reform) Jim Harris (Green) Jim Karygiannis ("Eastern" National)
[1] The Western Canadian Independence Party merged with the National Party after a party takeover by Pat Martin, the Eastern Parts of the National party re-created the old party, but only competed in Eastern Canada, this actually hurt the Reform Party more than either half of the National Party
Jean Chrétien (Liberal) 1993-1996
Def. Kim Campbell (Progressive Conservative) Lucien Bouchard (Bloc Quebecois) Preston Manning (Reform) Audrey McLaughlin (NDP) Mel Hurtig (National)
Kim Campbell (Progressive Conservative) 1996-2003
1996 Def. Lorne Nystrom (NDP) Preston Manning (Reform) Jean Chrétien (Liberal) Mel Hurtig (National)
2001 Def. Jack Layton (NDP) Stockwell Day (Reform) Don Boudria (Liberal) Mel Hurting (National)
Jack Layton (Democratic) 2003-2011*
Deborah Coyne (Democratic) 2011-2012
2003 Def. Bernard Lord (Progressive Conservative) Stephen Harper (Reform) Inky Mark (National)
2007 Def. Tim Hudak (Progressive Conservative) John Nunziata (National) Stephen Harper (Reform) Elizabeth May (Green)
Tim Hudak (Progressive Conservative minority government) 2012-2014
Tim Hudak (Progressive Conservative majority government) 2014-0000
2012 Def. Deborah Coyne (Democratic) Pat Martin (Western Alliance)[1] Greg Hargrove (Reform) John Nunziata ("Eastern" National) Elizabeth May (Green)
2014 Def. Gerard Kennedy (Democratic) Pat Martin (Western Alliance) Pierre Lemieux (Reform) Jim Harris (Green) Jim Karygiannis ("Eastern" National)
[1] The Western Canadian Independence Party merged with the National Party after a party takeover by Pat Martin, the Eastern Parts of the National party re-created the old party, but only competed in Eastern Canada, this actually hurt the Reform Party more than either half of the National Party
Prime Ministers of Canada
1968-1978: Pierre Trudeau (Liberal)
-68: Robert Stanfield (Progressive Conservative), Tommy Douglas (New Democratic), Réal Caouette (Ralliement créditiste)
-72 (min): Robert Stanfield (Progressive Conservative), David Lewis (New Democratic), Réal Caouette (Social Credit)
-73: Robert Stanfield (Progressive Conservative), David Lewis (New Democratic), Réal Caouette (Social Credit)
1978-1979: Claude Wagner (Progressive Conservative)
-78: Pierre Trudeau (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), André-Gilles Fortin (Social Credit)
1979-1989: Jack Horner (Progressive Conservative)
-81: Donald Stovel Macdonald (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), André-Gilles Fortin (Social Credit)
-85: Donald Stovel Macdonald (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), Guy Bertrand (Pur et Dur!), Gilles Caouette (Social Credit)
1989-1991: John Crosbie (Progressive Conservative)
-90: Raymond Garneau (Liberal), Guy Bertrand (Pur et Dur!), Lorne Nystrom (New Democratic)
1991-1995: Hartland Molson (Independent, in coalition with Progressive Conservatives, Liberals, and New Democrats)
1995-2000: Michael Ignatieff (Liberal, then Liberal in coalition with National Unity and Progressive Conservatives)
-95 (min): Gilles Duceppe (Pur et Dur!), Stephen Harper (Confederation of Regions), James Laxer (The Waffle), Hartland Molson (National Unity), Jack Ramsay (Western Block), Lewis MacKenzie (Progressive Conservative), Lorne Nystrom (New Democratic)
-98: Gilles Duceppe (Pur et Dur!), Stephen Harper (Confederation of Regions), Svend Robinson (The Waffle), Michael Pitfield (National Unity), Hugh Segal (Progressive Conservative), Darrel Stinson (Western Block), Alexa McDonough (New Democratic)
2000-2003: Ralph Goodale (Liberal, in coalition with National Unity and Progressive Conservatives)
2003-2012: Jan Brown (Confederation of Regions)
-03: Svend Robinson (The Waffle), Ralph Goodale (Liberal), Michael Pitfield (National Unity), John Herron (Progressive Conservative), Alexa McDonough (New Democratic), Darrel Stinson (Western Block)
-08: Peter Kormos (The Waffle), John Manley (United Liberals and Conservatives), David Miller (Democratic), Darrel Stinson (Western Block)
2012-2013: Peter Kormos (The Waffle)
-12: Jan Brown (Confederation of Regions), John Manley (United Liberals and Conservatives), Cory Morgan (Western Block), David Miller (Democratic)
2013-2019: Linda McQuaig (The Waffle)
-16: Vic Toews (Confederation of Regions), Mark Carney (United Liberals and Conservatives), Cory Morgan (Western Block), Dominic Cardy (Democratic)
2019-present: Yuen Pau Woo (United Liberals and Conservatives)
-19: Kellie Leitch (Confederation of Regions), Linda McQuaig (The Waffle), Cory Morgan (Western Block), Ryan Cleary (Democratic)
The idea here is essentially that the October Crisis never ends, and increasingly bad FLQ attacks define the late 70s and the entirety of the 80s. Quebec votes for independence in 1991, forcing Crosbie's resignation and the formation of a unity government which goes pretty badly and really pisses off supporters of the PCs and the NDP, who shift toward/form the Confederation of Regions and The Waffle. Quebec separatism puts wind in the sails of Western separatism, allowing the Western Block to become a continual nuisance (though it continually fails to be that relevant thanks to the presence of the Confederation of Regions. The Liberals govern through the late 90's, eventually forced to form a coalition government after Duceppe's radical separatists win a plurality of seats, but Ignatieff resigns in 2000 shortly after Quebec formally becomes independent. Having failed to save Canada, the Liberals fall to third in 2003, as the Confederation of Regions wins and The Waffle forms the official opposition. With the country having been in a continual recession since the beginning of the 90s, a global recession pushes the country into an even worse economic state than that faced in the Great Depression, and prompts Brown's defeat in 2012. Kormos dies shortly into his term, and while McQuaig manages to win a majority in 2016, she lacks her predecessor's charisma and popularity with the common man. With a corruption scandal on the news and McQuaig's economic policies failing to pay off, the country turns back to centrism in 2018, electing Yuen Pau Woo and the United Liberals and Conservatives.
1968-1978: Pierre Trudeau (Liberal)
-68: Robert Stanfield (Progressive Conservative), Tommy Douglas (New Democratic), Réal Caouette (Ralliement créditiste)
-72 (min): Robert Stanfield (Progressive Conservative), David Lewis (New Democratic), Réal Caouette (Social Credit)
-73: Robert Stanfield (Progressive Conservative), David Lewis (New Democratic), Réal Caouette (Social Credit)
1978-1979: Claude Wagner (Progressive Conservative)
-78: Pierre Trudeau (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), André-Gilles Fortin (Social Credit)
1979-1989: Jack Horner (Progressive Conservative)
-81: Donald Stovel Macdonald (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), André-Gilles Fortin (Social Credit)
-85: Donald Stovel Macdonald (Liberal), Ed Broadbent (New Democratic), Guy Bertrand (Pur et Dur!), Gilles Caouette (Social Credit)
1989-1991: John Crosbie (Progressive Conservative)
-90: Raymond Garneau (Liberal), Guy Bertrand (Pur et Dur!), Lorne Nystrom (New Democratic)
1991-1995: Hartland Molson (Independent, in coalition with Progressive Conservatives, Liberals, and New Democrats)
1995-2000: Michael Ignatieff (Liberal, then Liberal in coalition with National Unity and Progressive Conservatives)
-95 (min): Gilles Duceppe (Pur et Dur!), Stephen Harper (Confederation of Regions), James Laxer (The Waffle), Hartland Molson (National Unity), Jack Ramsay (Western Block), Lewis MacKenzie (Progressive Conservative), Lorne Nystrom (New Democratic)
-98: Gilles Duceppe (Pur et Dur!), Stephen Harper (Confederation of Regions), Svend Robinson (The Waffle), Michael Pitfield (National Unity), Hugh Segal (Progressive Conservative), Darrel Stinson (Western Block), Alexa McDonough (New Democratic)
2000-2003: Ralph Goodale (Liberal, in coalition with National Unity and Progressive Conservatives)
2003-2012: Jan Brown (Confederation of Regions)
-03: Svend Robinson (The Waffle), Ralph Goodale (Liberal), Michael Pitfield (National Unity), John Herron (Progressive Conservative), Alexa McDonough (New Democratic), Darrel Stinson (Western Block)
-08: Peter Kormos (The Waffle), John Manley (United Liberals and Conservatives), David Miller (Democratic), Darrel Stinson (Western Block)
2012-2013: Peter Kormos (The Waffle)
-12: Jan Brown (Confederation of Regions), John Manley (United Liberals and Conservatives), Cory Morgan (Western Block), David Miller (Democratic)
2013-2019: Linda McQuaig (The Waffle)
-16: Vic Toews (Confederation of Regions), Mark Carney (United Liberals and Conservatives), Cory Morgan (Western Block), Dominic Cardy (Democratic)
2019-present: Yuen Pau Woo (United Liberals and Conservatives)
-19: Kellie Leitch (Confederation of Regions), Linda McQuaig (The Waffle), Cory Morgan (Western Block), Ryan Cleary (Democratic)
The idea here is essentially that the October Crisis never ends, and increasingly bad FLQ attacks define the late 70s and the entirety of the 80s. Quebec votes for independence in 1991, forcing Crosbie's resignation and the formation of a unity government which goes pretty badly and really pisses off supporters of the PCs and the NDP, who shift toward/form the Confederation of Regions and The Waffle. Quebec separatism puts wind in the sails of Western separatism, allowing the Western Block to become a continual nuisance (though it continually fails to be that relevant thanks to the presence of the Confederation of Regions. The Liberals govern through the late 90's, eventually forced to form a coalition government after Duceppe's radical separatists win a plurality of seats, but Ignatieff resigns in 2000 shortly after Quebec formally becomes independent. Having failed to save Canada, the Liberals fall to third in 2003, as the Confederation of Regions wins and The Waffle forms the official opposition. With the country having been in a continual recession since the beginning of the 90s, a global recession pushes the country into an even worse economic state than that faced in the Great Depression, and prompts Brown's defeat in 2012. Kormos dies shortly into his term, and while McQuaig manages to win a majority in 2016, she lacks her predecessor's charisma and popularity with the common man. With a corruption scandal on the news and McQuaig's economic policies failing to pay off, the country turns back to centrism in 2018, electing Yuen Pau Woo and the United Liberals and Conservatives.
I had a dream I was friends with Prime Ministers Ed Miliband and Layla Moran and this is my weird canon for that as well as a blatant excuse for wish fulfilment.
The Unrealistic Death of Tory England
2015-2026 - Ed Miliband (Labour Majority)[1]
def. 2015 David Cameron (Conservative), Nick Clegg (Lib Dem), Alex Niel (SNP), Natalie Bennett (Green), Nigel Farage (UKIP)
def. 2020 Liam Fox (Conservative), Norman Lamb (Lib Dem), Nigel Farage (UKIP) Alex Niel (SNP), Jon Bartley (Green)
def. 2025 Stephen Crabb (Conservative/UKIP "Patriotic Front"), Norman Lamb (Democratic), Jon Bartley (Green), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP)
2026-2031 - Jo Cox (Labour Majority) [2]
def. 2030 William Rees-Mogg (British People's Alliance), Amelia Womack (Democratic/Green "Popular Alliance")
2031-2032 - Danielle Rowley (Labour Majority) [3]
2032-Present Layla Moran (Democratic/Green Alliance Minority with ad-hoc Labour support) [4]
def. 2033 Danielle Rowley (Labour), Kristine Hair (People's Party)
[1] Ed Miliband is almost universally accepted as one of the most popular and successful Prime Ministers of the 21st century. His hiring of new aides in 2014 and a notable drift leftwards in policy over the course of 2014 and 15 led to a dip in the polls, hoping to take advantage of this the Tory party released a relatively radical right wing manifesto, again falling back on the ideas of the "Big Society" and economic liberalism. A series of debates, which Cameron is said to have only begrudgingly to have agreed to, as well as a popular Labour manifesto pushed Miliband ahead in the polls and by election day, Miliband had secured a 7 point majority in the polls and a majority of 20 seats. Alex Neil's SNP dramatically under performed but still gained a dozen seats, rising to a total of 18. The Lib Dems, beset by years of Tory alliance, collapsed to a mere 20, down 37 on their total five years earlier.
Miliband, allied always by his trust Chancellor Balls, went from strength to strength in his first year, abolishing tuition fees and increasing corporation tax, pledging to balance the budget by 2025 whilst investing in the NHS and other public services. 2017 and 2018 saw tougher times for Miliband as the economy, whilst still recovering, slowed world wide and he was publicly defeated on a vote to decrease the voting age to 16. In the final two years of his premiership, however, Miliband bounced back organising a global conference in London devoted to the closure of tax Havens. Whilst only a partial success, the hard won support of President Biden and a (non-binding) motion of support passed by the UN saw transformed the conference into a huge success and led to a minor boom in the British economy. Further international developments such as spearheading active support of the SDF in Syria and helping to negotiate a ceasefire between the Military Rebels and AKP government in the Turkish Civil War saw his poll numbers climb. Miliband thrashed Fox, whose Euroscepticism and bumbling nature led to the alienation of centrist voters (who flooded the slowly recovering Lib Dems) and failed to prevent the gradual rise of UKIP, who won 15% of the vote and 8 MPs in 2020.
Milibands second term was even more radical than his first, his most controversial and well known policy, UBI, was introduced in 2021 after successful trials in Greater Merseyside. The replacement of the House of Lords with an elective House of Representitives in 2022 was popular but difficult whilst the National Devolution Act of 2023 effectively killed the SNP and Plaid as regional assemblies were introduced for the English regions and devo-max introduced nation wide. Education reform and the total abolition of grammar schools was hard fought and the introduction of a public Energy Supplier in 2024 was both expensive and difficult to implement. The 2025 election was another Labour victory, although the recently christened "Patriotic Front" was able to chip away at the Labour Majority alongside both the Greens and renamed Democratic party making big gains in Scotland and Wales, at the expense of both Labour and the Nationalists. In 2026, tired from 11 years in Number 10 and pleased with his success, Miliband retired with record popularity.
[2] From day one, Cox was more controvertial than Miliband. Well respected across the board but loved by few, her controvertial divorce and public shaming of her husband a few years prior shook some public faith in her but a firm continuation of the Milibandite Consensus and her strong foreign policy led to a surprise election victory in 2030, against a pair of alliances, both the openly anti-immigration and eurosceptic British People's Alliance and the more pragmatic Democratic/Green Popular Alliance. The popular front was diverse but pragmatic, bound together as strong forces in the Celtic fringe, supporters of electoral reform, more active environmental protections and more frontline social justice. Cox's success in leading the EU through it's 2028 Reform, particularly the passing of the Birmingham Treaties creating a centralised EU Military, singular and directly elected President and reformed upper house all helped boost her international presence. The "Triumverate" of Cox, French President Najat Vallaud-Belkacem and German Chancellor Burkhard Lischa led the EU and NATO through a tricky intervention in the Russian Civil War and their hard won victory in 2030 cemented Cox's image as a strong wartime PM. Her shock retirement in 2031 came not, as many suspected from health or personal reasons but from a want to "get out whilst the going was good".
[3] Cox's successor dragged the party even leftwards and beset with a slim majority, thoroughly divided cabinet and a disastrous overhaul of the NHS, which attempted unsuccessful to revert the decentralisation of the service and was cancelled after 6 months. A no confidence vote in the December of 2031 was the final nail in the coffin but the following election had a result nooone was expecting.
[4] Moran's victory and that of the Popular Alliance was a shock even in respect to the exit poll, the People's party and their leader Kristine Hair were utterly embarrassed and finished a devastating third despite a move to the centre. The moderate left-libertarianism advocated by the Alliance won over the hearts and minds of London and the Celtic fringe whilst their explicitly agrarian and environmental platform struck home in a countryside beset by global warming. Whilst still a hundred seats off a majority, Moran's government has successfully raised personal allowances, passed a wide reaching LGBT+ Rights Bill in early 2033 and has recently enacted nation wide, 4-member STV. Whilst her government is hugely shaky, rumours of a permanent marriage between the Democrats and Greens spurrs hope that she might hold on.
The Unrealistic Death of Tory England
2015-2026 - Ed Miliband (Labour Majority)[1]
def. 2015 David Cameron (Conservative), Nick Clegg (Lib Dem), Alex Niel (SNP), Natalie Bennett (Green), Nigel Farage (UKIP)
def. 2020 Liam Fox (Conservative), Norman Lamb (Lib Dem), Nigel Farage (UKIP) Alex Niel (SNP), Jon Bartley (Green)
def. 2025 Stephen Crabb (Conservative/UKIP "Patriotic Front"), Norman Lamb (Democratic), Jon Bartley (Green), Nicola Sturgeon (SNP)
2026-2031 - Jo Cox (Labour Majority) [2]
def. 2030 William Rees-Mogg (British People's Alliance), Amelia Womack (Democratic/Green "Popular Alliance")
2031-2032 - Danielle Rowley (Labour Majority) [3]
2032-Present Layla Moran (Democratic/Green Alliance Minority with ad-hoc Labour support) [4]
def. 2033 Danielle Rowley (Labour), Kristine Hair (People's Party)
[1] Ed Miliband is almost universally accepted as one of the most popular and successful Prime Ministers of the 21st century. His hiring of new aides in 2014 and a notable drift leftwards in policy over the course of 2014 and 15 led to a dip in the polls, hoping to take advantage of this the Tory party released a relatively radical right wing manifesto, again falling back on the ideas of the "Big Society" and economic liberalism. A series of debates, which Cameron is said to have only begrudgingly to have agreed to, as well as a popular Labour manifesto pushed Miliband ahead in the polls and by election day, Miliband had secured a 7 point majority in the polls and a majority of 20 seats. Alex Neil's SNP dramatically under performed but still gained a dozen seats, rising to a total of 18. The Lib Dems, beset by years of Tory alliance, collapsed to a mere 20, down 37 on their total five years earlier.
Miliband, allied always by his trust Chancellor Balls, went from strength to strength in his first year, abolishing tuition fees and increasing corporation tax, pledging to balance the budget by 2025 whilst investing in the NHS and other public services. 2017 and 2018 saw tougher times for Miliband as the economy, whilst still recovering, slowed world wide and he was publicly defeated on a vote to decrease the voting age to 16. In the final two years of his premiership, however, Miliband bounced back organising a global conference in London devoted to the closure of tax Havens. Whilst only a partial success, the hard won support of President Biden and a (non-binding) motion of support passed by the UN saw transformed the conference into a huge success and led to a minor boom in the British economy. Further international developments such as spearheading active support of the SDF in Syria and helping to negotiate a ceasefire between the Military Rebels and AKP government in the Turkish Civil War saw his poll numbers climb. Miliband thrashed Fox, whose Euroscepticism and bumbling nature led to the alienation of centrist voters (who flooded the slowly recovering Lib Dems) and failed to prevent the gradual rise of UKIP, who won 15% of the vote and 8 MPs in 2020.
Milibands second term was even more radical than his first, his most controversial and well known policy, UBI, was introduced in 2021 after successful trials in Greater Merseyside. The replacement of the House of Lords with an elective House of Representitives in 2022 was popular but difficult whilst the National Devolution Act of 2023 effectively killed the SNP and Plaid as regional assemblies were introduced for the English regions and devo-max introduced nation wide. Education reform and the total abolition of grammar schools was hard fought and the introduction of a public Energy Supplier in 2024 was both expensive and difficult to implement. The 2025 election was another Labour victory, although the recently christened "Patriotic Front" was able to chip away at the Labour Majority alongside both the Greens and renamed Democratic party making big gains in Scotland and Wales, at the expense of both Labour and the Nationalists. In 2026, tired from 11 years in Number 10 and pleased with his success, Miliband retired with record popularity.
[2] From day one, Cox was more controvertial than Miliband. Well respected across the board but loved by few, her controvertial divorce and public shaming of her husband a few years prior shook some public faith in her but a firm continuation of the Milibandite Consensus and her strong foreign policy led to a surprise election victory in 2030, against a pair of alliances, both the openly anti-immigration and eurosceptic British People's Alliance and the more pragmatic Democratic/Green Popular Alliance. The popular front was diverse but pragmatic, bound together as strong forces in the Celtic fringe, supporters of electoral reform, more active environmental protections and more frontline social justice. Cox's success in leading the EU through it's 2028 Reform, particularly the passing of the Birmingham Treaties creating a centralised EU Military, singular and directly elected President and reformed upper house all helped boost her international presence. The "Triumverate" of Cox, French President Najat Vallaud-Belkacem and German Chancellor Burkhard Lischa led the EU and NATO through a tricky intervention in the Russian Civil War and their hard won victory in 2030 cemented Cox's image as a strong wartime PM. Her shock retirement in 2031 came not, as many suspected from health or personal reasons but from a want to "get out whilst the going was good".
[3] Cox's successor dragged the party even leftwards and beset with a slim majority, thoroughly divided cabinet and a disastrous overhaul of the NHS, which attempted unsuccessful to revert the decentralisation of the service and was cancelled after 6 months. A no confidence vote in the December of 2031 was the final nail in the coffin but the following election had a result nooone was expecting.
[4] Moran's victory and that of the Popular Alliance was a shock even in respect to the exit poll, the People's party and their leader Kristine Hair were utterly embarrassed and finished a devastating third despite a move to the centre. The moderate left-libertarianism advocated by the Alliance won over the hearts and minds of London and the Celtic fringe whilst their explicitly agrarian and environmental platform struck home in a countryside beset by global warming. Whilst still a hundred seats off a majority, Moran's government has successfully raised personal allowances, passed a wide reaching LGBT+ Rights Bill in early 2033 and has recently enacted nation wide, 4-member STV. Whilst her government is hugely shaky, rumours of a permanent marriage between the Democrats and Greens spurrs hope that she might hold on.
I know William somewhat irl, this is not the kind of thing he would go for. He's actually quite moderate and widely regarded as a crypto Liberal, so I think having him in alliance with UKIP is unlikely.
Uncle Jacob on the their hand...
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