List of Alternate Monarchs and Aristocratic Lineage II

Dragonboy

FalconHonour said:
Henry VII (1457-1509) m. Elizabeth of York (1466-1528)

1) Arthur Prince of Wales (1486-1502) m. Katherine of Aragon (1485-1532)
2) Henry VIII (1489-1541) m. Katherine of Aragon (1485-1532)
  • Henry, Prince of Wales (b.1505)
  • Margaret (1507-1511)
  • Elizabeth (b.1508)
  • Miscarriage (1509)
  • Edward, Duke of Pembroke (b.1510)
  • Katherine (b.1512)
  • Stillborn daughter (1513)
  • John, Duke of Suffolk (b.1514)
  • Mary (b.1516)
  • Joanna (1516-1517)
3) Edmund, Duke of Somerset (b.1491) m. Anne de La Tour (1496-1528)
  • Elizabeth (b.1514-1517)
  • Stillborn son (b.1516)
  • Edmund (1518-1524)
  • Joan (1520-1521)
  • Miscarriage (1522)
  • Stillborn son (1523)
  • Madeleine (b.1525)
4) Jasper, Duke of Richmond (b.1496) m. Elizabeth Grey, Viscountess Lisle (1505-1519) (a) Lady Katherine Stafford (b.1499) (b)

1b. Elizabeth (b.1522)
2b) Arthur, Earl of Nottingham (b.1524)
3b) Katherine (b.1526)
4b) Miscarriage (1526)
5b) Jasper (1527-1528)
6b) Thomas (b.1530)
7b) Ursula (b.1533)
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Amazing work ! thanks!
 

Dragonboy

Salma Amer said:
Henry VIII of England (d. 1547) married Catherine of Aragon (d. 1539)

Edmund I of England (b.1516-.)m Maria of Portugal (b.1521-.)​
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Henry IX (b.1537-.) m Barbara of Asturia (b.1539-.) With issues ​
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Catherine (b.1539-.) m James VI of Scotland (b.1540- ) with issues ​
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Edmund, Duke of York (b.1540-.) m Mary fitzlan (b.1540-.) with issues ​
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Eleanor (b.1542-.) m Charles , prince of Asturias (b.1545-.) with issues ​
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Charles ,Duke of Somerset (b.1544-.) m Catherine Gray (b.1540-.) with issues ​
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Mary (b.1549-.) m Fredrik II of Denmark (b.1533-.) with issues ​
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John , Duke of Bedford (b.1553-.) m ​
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Elizabeth (b.1555-.) m Karl Friedrich, Duke of Jülich-Cleves-Berg (b.1557-.) with issues ​
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Mary (b.1516-.) m Francis III, Duke of Brittany (b. 1518-.1536)​
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François II of France (b.1534-.) m Margaret of Austria (b. 1536-.) With issues​
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Henry, Duke of berry (b.1536-.)m Henriette of Cleves (b. 1544-.) with issues​
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Great
 

Nova_Philomena

Prompt: James IV of Scotland marries Bianca Maria Sforza (Sorry for torturing your eyes @eliamartin65 with this one)

James IV of Scotland (b. 1473 d. 1513) m. Bianca Maria Sforza (b. 1472 d. 151)
  1. James V of Scotland (b. 1488 d. 1524) m. Margaret Tudor (b. 1489 d. 1541)
  2. Mary of Scotland (b. 1489 d. 1543) m. Archibald Douglas, 6th Earl of Angus (b. 1489 d. 1557)
  3. Alexander Stewart, Duke of Ross (b. 1490 d. 1514) [1] m. Françoise d'Alençon (b. 1490 d. 1550)
  4. Stillborn Son (b. 1492 d. 1492)
  5. Margaret of Scotland (b. 1493 d. 1506)
  6. Isabel of Scotland (b. 1494 d. 1531) m. Antoine, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1489 d. 1544)
  7. Robert of Scotland (b. 1496 d. 1500)
  8. Anne of Scotland (b. 1500 d. 1548) m. Henry II of Navarre (b. 1503 d. 1557)
[1] His uncle dies earlier.
 

BoleynBuff

Nova_Philomena said:
Prompt: James IV of Scotland marries Bianca Maria Sforza (Sorry for torturing your eyes @eliamartin65 with this one)

James IV of Scotland (b. 1473 d. 1513) m. Bianca Maria Sforza (b. 1472 d. 151)
  1. James V of Scotland (b. 1488 d. 1524) m. Margaret Tudor (b. 1489 d. 1541)
  2. Mary of Scotland (b. 1489 d. 1543) m. Archibald Douglas, 6th Earl of Angus (b. 1489 d. 1557)
  3. Alexander Stewart, Duke of Ross (b. 1490 d. 1514) [1] m. Françoise d'Alençon (b. 1490 d. 1550)
  4. Stillborn Son (b. 1492 d. 1492)
  5. Margaret of Scotland (b. 1493 d. 1506)
  6. Isabel of Scotland (b. 1494 d. 1531) m. Antoine, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1489 d. 1544)
  7. Robert of Scotland (b. 1496 d. 1500)
  8. Anne of Scotland (b. 1500 d. 1548) m. Henry II of Navarre (b. 1503 d. 1557)
[1] His uncle dies earlier.
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Pretty sure Elia will be happy since Scotland is so far from Austria
 
FalconHonour

FalconHonour

And now, just for the hell of it.

Henry VII (1457-1497) m. Elizabeth of York (1466-1528)

1) Margaret (b.1486) m Edmund I of England (b.1471)
2) Elizabeth (b.1489) m. James IV of Scotland (b.1473)
3) Mary (b.1491) m. ??
4) Katherine (b.1496), raised as a nun
 
ordinarylittleme

ordinarylittleme

Dragonboy said:
At least this will save Spain years of fighting to keep portugal.

Idea: Albert victor survives to become Edward VIII
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Edward VIII (1864-1942) m. Mary of Teck (1867-1953)

1) Elizabeth II (1894-1944) m. Luis Fernando of Spain (1888-1945)
2) Mary (1897-1965) m. Frederik IX of Denmark (1899-1972)
3) Victoria (1900-1960) m. Olav V of Norway (1903-1991)
Dragonboy said:
Idea: All of the surviving children of Henry VII and EOY are boys
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Henry VII (1457-1509) m. Elizabeth of York (1466-1511)

1) Arthur, Prince of Wales (1486-1502) m. Katherine of Aragon (1485-1536)
2) Henry VIII (1489-1541) m. a) Katherine of Aragon (1485-1536), b) Katherine Parr (1512-1548)
3) Edward (1491-1547) m. a) Anne de la Tour d'Auvergne (1496-1524), b) Anne Boleyn (1501-1541), c) Katherine Howard (1523-1580)
4) Edmund (1496-1533) m. a) Elizabeth Grey (1505-1519), b) Mary Boleyn (1499-1543)
 

Nova_Philomena

Dragonboy said:
@Nova_Philomena Suggestion: All the sons of Edward I with Eleanor of castile survive to adulthood.
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Eh why not have all the kids survive? Unrealistic, but I'm bored, lol.

Edward I of England (b. 1239 d. 1307) m. Eleanor of Castile (b. 1241 d. 1290) and Margaret of France (b. 1279 d. 1318)
  1. Katherine of England (b. 1261 d. 1300) m. Robert II, Duke of Burgundy (b. 1248 d. 1306)
  2. Joan of England (b. 1265 d. 1314) m. Alexander IV of Scotland (b. 1264 d. 1313) [1]
  3. John II of England (b. 1266 d. 1321) m. Elizabeth of Aragon (b. 1271 d. 1336)
  4. Henry Plantagenet, 1st Earl of Cornwall (b. 1268 d. 1315) m. Mahaut of Artois (b. 1268 d. 1329)
  5. Eleanor of England (b. 1269 d. 1298) m. Henry III, Count of Bar (b. 1259 d. 1302)
  6. Margaret of England (b. 1271 d. 1319) m. James II of Aragon (b. 1267 d. 1327)
  7. Berengaria of England (b. 1272 d. 1307) [1] m. Gilbert de Clare (b. 1243 d. 1295)
  8. Alphonse, Earl of Norfolk (b. 1273 d. 1330) m. Marie de Lusignan (b. 1273 d. 1331)
  9. Mary of England (b. 1275 d. 1333) [2] m. John II, Duke of Brabant (b. 1275 d. 1312)
  10. Elizabeth of England (b. 1276 d. 1328) [3] m. Hugh de Courtenay (b. 1276 d. 1340)
  11. Alice of England (b. 1278 d. 1341) [4] m. Frederick IV, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1282 d. 1328)
  12. Beatrice of England (b. 1278 d. 1316) [5]
  13. Matilda of England (b. 1282 d. 1230) [6] m. John I, Count of Holland (b. 1284 d. 1314)
  14. Edward Plantagenet, 1st Earl of Kent (b. 1284 d. 1327) m. Alice de Toeni (b. 1284 d. 1325)
  15. Thomas of England (b. 1300 d. 1338) [7]
  16. Edmund of England (b. 1301 d. 1330) [8]
  17. Eleanor of England (b. 1306 d. 1372) m. Peter II of Sicily (b. 1304 d. 1342)
[1] Dispensation for Cousin-Marriage.
[2] OTL Joan of Acre
[3] OTL Berengaria of England (Short-Lived OTL daughter)
[4]OTL Unnamed CHild
[5] OTL Mary of Woodstock
[6] OTL Elizabeth of England
[7] Don't know what title to give him
[8] ^
 

Dragonboy

ordinarylittleme said:
Edward VIII (1864-1942) m. Mary of Teck (1867-1953)

1) Elizabeth II (1894-1944) m. Luis Fernando of Spain (1888-1945)
2) Mary (1897-1965) m. Frederik IX of Denmark (1899-1972)
3) Victoria (1900-1960) m. Olav V of Norway (1903-1991)

Henry VII (1457-1509) m. Elizabeth of York (1466-1511)

1) Arthur, Prince of Wales (1486-1502) m. Katherine of Aragon (1485-1536)
2) Henry VIII (1489-1541) m. a) Katherine of Aragon (1485-1536), b) Katherine Parr (1512-1548)
3) Edward (1491-1547) m. a) Anne de la Tour d'Auvergne (1496-1524), b) Anne Boleyn (1501-1541), c) Katherine Howard (1523-1580)
4) Edmund (1496-1533) m. a) Elizabeth Grey (1505-1519), b) Mary Boleyn (1499-1543)
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Nova_Philomena said:
Eh why not have all the kids survive? Unrealistic, but I'm bored, lol.

Edward I of England (b. 1239 d. 1307) m. Eleanor of Castile (b. 1241 d. 1290) and Margaret of France (b. 1279 d. 1318)
  1. Katherine of England (b. 1261 d. 1300) m. Robert II, Duke of Burgundy (b. 1248 d. 1306)
  2. Joan of England (b. 1265 d. 1314) m. Alexander IV of Scotland (b. 1264 d. 1313) [1]
  3. John II of England (b. 1266 d. 1321) m. Elizabeth of Aragon (b. 1271 d. 1336)
  4. Henry Plantagenet, 1st Earl of Cornwall (b. 1268 d. 1315) m. Mahaut of Artois (b. 1268 d. 1329)
  5. Eleanor of England (b. 1269 d. 1298) m. Henry III, Count of Bar (b. 1259 d. 1302)
  6. Margaret of England (b. 1271 d. 1319) m. James II of Aragon (b. 1267 d. 1327)
  7. Berengaria of England (b. 1272 d. 1307) [1] m. Gilbert de Clare (b. 1243 d. 1295)
  8. Alphonse, Earl of Norfolk (b. 1273 d. 1330) m. Marie de Lusignan (b. 1273 d. 1331)
  9. Mary of England (b. 1275 d. 1333) [2] m. John II, Duke of Brabant (b. 1275 d. 1312)
  10. Elizabeth of England (b. 1276 d. 1328) [3] m. Hugh de Courtenay (b. 1276 d. 1340)
  11. Alice of England (b. 1278 d. 1341) [4] m. Frederick IV, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1282 d. 1328)
  12. Beatrice of England (b. 1278 d. 1316) [5]
  13. Matilda of England (b. 1282 d. 1230) [6] m. John I, Count of Holland (b. 1284 d. 1314)
  14. Edward Plantagenet, 1st Earl of Kent (b. 1284 d. 1327) m. Alice de Toeni (b. 1284 d. 1325)
  15. Thomas of England (b. 1300 d. 1338) [7]
  16. Edmund of England (b. 1301 d. 1330) [8]
  17. Eleanor of England (b. 1306 d. 1372) m. Peter II of Sicily (b. 1304 d. 1342)
[1] Dispensation for Cousin-Marriage.
[2] OTL Joan of Acre
[3] OTL Berengaria of England (Short-Lived OTL daughter)
[4]OTL Unnamed CHild
[5] OTL Mary of Woodstock
[6] OTL Elizabeth of England
[7] Don't know what title to give him
[8] ^
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ordinarylittleme

ordinarylittleme

Philip IV of Burgundy m. Joanna of Castile

1) Philip of Spain and Burgundy m. a) Mary Tudor, b) Jeanne d'Albret
2) Charles V HRE - as OTL
3) Isabella - as OTL
4) Ferdinand - as OTL
5) Mary - as OTL
6) Catherine - as OTL
 

Nova_Philomena

ordinarylittleme said:
Philip IV of Burgundy m. Joanna of Castile

1) Philip of Spain and Burgundy m. a) Mary Tudor, b) Jeanne d'Albret
2) Charles V HRE - as OTL
3) Isabella - as OTL
4) Ferdinand - as OTL
5) Mary - as OTL
6) Catherine - as OTL
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If the 'as OTL' means the same marriages, Ferdinand of Austria wont marry Anna Jagiellonica because he is a landless Prince, even if he gets a portion of Austria, he'd marry someone like Magdalena of Saxony.
 
ordinarylittleme

ordinarylittleme

Nova_Philomena said:
If the 'as OTL' means the same marriages, Ferdinand of Austria wont marry Anna Jagiellonica because he is a landless Prince, even if he gets a portion of Austria, he'd marry someone like Magdalena of Saxony.
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He marries Anna Jagiellon because she's heiress to Bohemia and Hungary (Louis dies earlier) and thus his landless status is exactly why he'd appeal
 

Nova_Philomena

ordinarylittleme said:
Huh. I mean, he did reject her OTL
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Maximilian would probably want Anna Jagiellonica to marry Charles. Maximilian's father, Frederick III felt dynastic entitlement to Hungary as it had been in the Imperial Crown Lands for quite a while until the disastrous end to the Imperial House of Luxembourg which temporarily scattered the lands across Europe (Jagiellonians and Corvinus getting Hungary, Podebrady getting Elected in Bohemia, the Habsburgs getting Germany and Anna of Austria's husband (William of Thuringia) trying to fight for the Duchy of Luxembourg against the Valois-Burgundy)

Since Charles isn't getting Spain in this scenario (If anything Male!Eleanor would marry Isabel since he's getting Spain), it would make total since for Maximilian to betroth his grandson to Anna Jagiellonica, especially since she has no brother that would contest Charles in an election.
 
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