Im guessing Alfonso became Alfonso III of Naples.
Ferdinand could be the Duke of Cadiz
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Ferdinand could be the Duke of Cadiz
And isabella here would have unquestionably died giving manuel a child, i'm guesing s on, would the kid survive to succed him and if so which name are you thinking?
Here Isabella died with a stillborn girl (a parallel to OTL Margaret of Austria), Manuel later remarried to someone else
Revision of Henry VIII dying in 1524.
- Henry VIII, King of England (b. 1491, d. 1524) m. Catherine of Aragon, Infanta of Spain (b. 1485, d. 1545)
- Mary I, Queen of England (b. 1516, d. 1569) m. Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1500, d. 1558)
- Philip II, King of Spain (b. 1534, d. 1589) ) m. Maria of Austria, Archduchess of Austria (b. 1531, d. 1581)
- Catherine, Princess of England and infanta of Spain (b. 1536, d. 1584) m. Manuel II, King of Portugal (b. 1531, d. 1566)
- Henry IX, King of England (b. 1537, d. 1580) m. Mary Stuart, Princess of Scotland (b. 1540, d, 1597)
- Mary, Princess of England and Infanta of Spain (b. 1541, d. 1600) m. Francis II, King of France (b. 1544, d. 1576)
- Elizabeth, Princess of England and Infanta of Spain (b. 1542, d. 1571) m. Charles III, Duke of Lorraine (b. 1543, d. 1606)
- Mary I, Queen of England (b. 1516, d. 1569) m. Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1500, d. 1558)
Arthur I of England (b. 1486-1511) m Catherine of Aragon (b. 1485-1539)
Eleanor of Austria married Louis XII without issue and secondly to Sigomund, King of Poland with issues
Beatrice from Portugal born as boy
Catherine of Austria married Charles, Duke of Savoy
Marie Rose Tudor married Christian II
Arthur (b.1502-1508)
Henry VIII, King of England (b.1504-1528) m Isabella of Portugal (b.1503-)
Arthur II of England (b. 1520-.) m Margaret of France (b.1523-.) with issues
Henry, Duke of Richmond (b. 1522-.)m Catherine Willoughby (b. 1519-.) with issues
John Duke of Exeter (b.1527-) m Catherine Courtenay (b.1527-) with issues
Stillborn daughter
Edmund, Duke of Somerset (b.1506-) m Elizabeth Gray (b.1505-
Catherine (b.1522-.) m Henry Stafford, Duke of Buckingham (b.1520-.) with issues
Elizabeth (b.1525-.) m Henry Neville, 5th Earl of Westmorland (b.1525-.)
Henry, Duke of Somerset (b. 1528-.) m Elizabeth Boleyn, Countess of Wiltshire (b.1531-) with issues
Mary (b.1534-) m Henry Hastings, 3rd Earl of Huntingdon (b.1535-) with issues
Elizabeth (b.1506-1532) m Charles V, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1500-1558)
Philip II of Spain (b.1522-) m Maria of Portugal *(b.1521-) with issues
Isabella (b.1522-) m Manuel II, King of Portugal* (b. 1518-.)with issues
Stillborn son
Catherine (b.1525-) m Maximilian II, Holy Roman Emperor and King of Bohemia and Hungary (b. 1527-) in 1543 with issues
Ferdinand, Duke of Burgundy (b.1527-) m Anna d'Este (b.1531-) with issues
Margaret (b.1509-) m Francis I, King of France (b. 1494-) as his second wife in 1526
Louis, Duke of Berry (b.1528-.) m Joanna of Savoy-Némours (b.1532-) with issues
John, Duke of Alençon (b.1532-) m Henriette of Cleves (b.1544-) with issues
Catherine (b.1511-1528) m James V, King of Scotland (b. 1512-)
James VI of Scotland (b. 1528-.) m Beatrice of Portugal *(b.1530-) with issues with
*Children of John III, King of Portugal and Isabella of AustriaEleanor of Austria married Louis XII without issue and secondly to Sigomund, King of Poland with issues
Beatrice from Portugal born as boy
Catherine of Austria married Charles, Duke of Savoy
Marie Rose Tudor married Christian II
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Henry VI of England (b. 1421-1472) m Margaret of Anjou (b.1430-1500)
Margaret I of England (b.1453-) m Edward IV of England (b.1442-)
Edward V of England (b.1469-) m Charlotte of France (b.1472-) with issues
Margaret(b.1471-) m Charles VIII of France (b. 1470-.) with issues
Cecily (b.1473-) m James IV, King of Scotland (b. 1473-) with issues
Richard, Duke of York (b.1475-) m Anne de Morby, Countess of Norfolk (b.1472-) with issues
Catherine (b.1476-) m Philip, Holy Roman Emperor (b. 1478-.)with issues
Joan (b.1478-.?m John III of Spain (b.
1478-.)with issues
An underused idea for a Wittelsbach Holy Roman Empire:
Albrecht of Habsburg dies in 1435:
Wilhelm II [1], Holy Roman Emperor [1437[2]-1452[3]], Duke of Bavaria-Munich [1402-1452] (1375-1452) m: 1433 Margarethe of Cleves (1416-1444)
[2] he was apparently Sigismund's preferred successor as emperor, so, here, with Albrecht predeceasing his father-in-law, Sigismund pushes for his "preferred" candidate
[3] his half-brother died in this year OTL
[4] same reasoning for "Wilhelm II", with Adolf of Nassau being "Adolf I".
[5] only child of Eliska of Bohemia and Albrecht of Habsburg (assuming Elisabeth of Austria was only born in 1436)
@Jan Olbracht @Zygmunt Stary @eliamartin65 @Nuraghe @isabella
Albrecht of Habsburg dies in 1435:
Wilhelm II [1], Holy Roman Emperor [1437[2]-1452[3]], Duke of Bavaria-Munich [1402-1452] (1375-1452) m: 1433 Margarethe of Cleves (1416-1444)
Adolf II [4], Holy Roman Emperor [1452-1472], King of the Romans [1440-1452], King of Bohemia [from 1442] (1434-1472) m: 1448 Anna of Austria [5] (1432-1462)
Elisabeth (1451-1462)
Wilhelm III, Holy Roman Emperor [from 1472] (b.1453)
Albrecht (b.1454)
Magdalene (1456-1458)
Stillborn Daughter (1459)
Anna (1462-1467)
Wilhelm (1435)
[1] Wilhelm I, King of Germany was William II, Count of Holland and Zeeland. Given that Albrecht II numbered him as "II" despite his namesake ancestor not having been emperor, but only king of Germany, I imagine the argument would still "count"[2] he was apparently Sigismund's preferred successor as emperor, so, here, with Albrecht predeceasing his father-in-law, Sigismund pushes for his "preferred" candidate
[3] his half-brother died in this year OTL
[4] same reasoning for "Wilhelm II", with Adolf of Nassau being "Adolf I".
[5] only child of Eliska of Bohemia and Albrecht of Habsburg (assuming Elisabeth of Austria was only born in 1436)
@Jan Olbracht @Zygmunt Stary @eliamartin65 @Nuraghe @isabella
What happens in Bohemia before 1442? And in Hungary? Also Elizabeth of Luxembourg would be just 26 at the time of Albrecht's death and could remarry.
Gender-bent children of Maximilian II, HRE [only the ones that lived to adulthood IOTL]
1) Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor (1549-1605) m. a) Elisabeth of Valois (1545-1568), b) Catherine of Bourbon (1559-1604)
2) Maria "the Mad" of Austria (1552-1612) m. Philip II of Spain (1527-1598)
3) Anna of Austria (1553-1595) m. Charles IX of France
4) Maximilian of Austria (1554-1592) grand master of teutonic order
5) Joanna of Austria (1557-1619) became nun
6) Isabella of Austria (1558-1618) m. Ferdinand II of Austria (1529-1595)
7) Margaret of Austria (1559-1621) m. Sigismund III Vasa (1566-1632)
8) Catherine of Austria (1561-1578) m. Charles Emmanuel I of Savoy (1562-1630)
9) Charles of Austria (1567-1633) became cardinal
1) Ferdinand II, Holy Roman Emperor (1549-1605) m. a) Elisabeth of Valois (1545-1568), b) Catherine of Bourbon (1559-1604)
2) Maria "the Mad" of Austria (1552-1612) m. Philip II of Spain (1527-1598)
3) Anna of Austria (1553-1595) m. Charles IX of France
4) Maximilian of Austria (1554-1592) grand master of teutonic order
5) Joanna of Austria (1557-1619) became nun
6) Isabella of Austria (1558-1618) m. Ferdinand II of Austria (1529-1595)
7) Margaret of Austria (1559-1621) m. Sigismund III Vasa (1566-1632)
8) Catherine of Austria (1561-1578) m. Charles Emmanuel I of Savoy (1562-1630)
9) Charles of Austria (1567-1633) became cardinal
Suggestion: Genderbend for the children of Henry VII and Elizabeth of York.
Henry VII of England (1457-1509) m. Elizabeth of York (1466-1511)
1) Margaret of England (1486-1502) m. James IV of Scotland (1473-1523)
2) Arthur I of England (1489-1541) m. a) Katherine of Aragon (1485-1536), b) Katherine Howard (1523-1582)
3) Elizabeth of England (1491-1547) m. a) James IV of Scotland (1473-1523), b) Charles Brandon (1484-1545)
4) Henry of England (1496-1533) m. Mary Boleyn (1499-1543)
Next one: Henry VIII children gender bent (Catherine and Anne die giving birth to their surviving sons here like Jane with her daughter)
Henry V m. Catherine of Valois
1) Mary I of England m. John of Bedford
1) Mary I of England m. John of Bedford
1) Henry VI m. a) Eleanor of Scotland, b) Anne of France
2) Elizabeth m. Charles of Burgundy
Henry VIII m. a) Katherine of Aragon, b) Anne Boleyn, c) Jane Seymour, d) Anne Bassett
1a) Henry IX m. Charlotte of France
2b) Edward m. a) Mary FitzAlan, b) Mary Queen of Scots
3c) Jane m. Philip II of Spain
4d) Anne m. Francis II of France