Is the Myth of the Lost Cause a myth in of itself?

[wcv215]

wcv215 there is gobs of evidence that they paid taxes on slaves, how can you not know that they paid taxes its one of the literal reasons for the 3/5ths clause

Funny how you can't actually say what taxes they were being paid on then. If there was gobs of evidence surely you can pinpoint ONE.

 

[Jack Douglass]

Not all masters were rapists, just most of them, which is why the one drop rule was invented.

Actually there were less mixed race slaves in the deep south than in the urban areas of the upper south according to Eugene D Genovese's "Roll Jordan Roll" which kind of disproves the idea that rape went hand in hand with slavery.

 

[GermanDjinn]

Aye, but none of them say that.

South Carolina, Texas, Georgia and Mississippi

 

[Jack Douglass]

Funny how you can't actually say what taxes they were being paid on then. If there was gobs of evidence surely you can pinpoint ONE.

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.co...w-slave-tax-warped-alabama-finances/97447706/

 

[GermanDjinn]

Yeah well it was in the context of the time, and we still to this day take other people's labor for granted all the time.

How haven’t you been banned yet?

 

[The Tai-Pan]

Actually there were less mixed race slaves in the deep south than in the urban areas of the upper south according to Eugene D Genovese's "Roll Jordan Roll" which kind of disproves the idea that rape went hand in hand with slavery.

Rape and slavery went hand in hand.

 

[Jack Douglass]

South Carolina, Texas, Georgia and Mississippi

Yeah I've read those, they defend slavery and point out how Lincoln is antithetical towards slavery and how he believes it is ultimately doomed to extinction, and how this is being used as justification to deny new slave states entry into the Union.

 

[Jack Douglass]

How haven’t you been banned yet?

I guess not every admin is current year either like you.

 

[Jack Douglass]

Rape and slavery went hand in hand.

Ok just ignore the facts go ahead, if rape went hand in hand with slavery you'd think that the deep south would have alot more mixed race people, but it had less than the cities and upper south.

 

[Mr Director]

Yeah well it was in the context of the time

Um, there were lots of places that weren't practicing slavery in the 19th century. The Confederacy was, if anything, something of an aberration in the way its slave system operated at that time. Like, wow, next you'll say that the gulags were "just the context of the time," so it's all just fine.

and we still to this day take other people's labor for granted all the time.

Nothing like using modern day labor abuses to justify literal slavery in the 1800s.

 

[The Tai-Pan]

Andersonville happened when the Confederate armies and people barely had enough food to feed themselves, and yes Ft Pillow was horrible, but a similiar massacre took place at the battle of Starville and the Confederacy took steps to court martial that General, General Turchin was promoted by Lincoln.

Current year much?

One army, when encountering African Americans, literally enslaved them.

One army, after a point in the war, when encountering enslaved people, freed them.


No moral equivalency here.

 

[Lost the game]

Actually there were less mixed race slaves in the deep south than in the urban areas of the upper south according to Eugene D Genovese's "Roll Jordan Roll" which kind of disproves the idea that rape went hand in hand with slavery.

So that makes it okay that legally slaves were livestock unless their masters wanted to fuck them?

Jesus motherfucking Christ on a crystal meth binge, man, you've gone from "Lost Cause doesn't real" to "slavery wasn't that bad"

Jesus motherfucking Meinertzhagen's Haversack H Lothario Percival Wulfrick Brian Godfuck Christ, dude.

 

[GermanDjinn]

Yeah I've read those, they defend slavery and point out how Lincoln is antithetical towards slavery and how he believes it is ultimately doomed to extinction, and how this is being used as justification to deny new slave states entry into the Union.

And that’s a bad thing?

 

[The Tai-Pan]

Ok just ignore the facts go ahead

I'm not ignoring the facts. It is clear, from both white and black primary sources, that (often violent) rape was widely prevalent in the slave holding south between master and slave.

 

[wcv215]

https://www.montgomeryadvertiser.co...w-slave-tax-warped-alabama-finances/97447706/

Did you even read that article? It has nothing to do with the 3/5ths compromise. Its talking about a state tax on slavery, and the oppression of free blacks as well. Nothing to do with federal taxes. Try again. Where is this oodles of evidence?

 

[Paradox-less]

Rape and slavery went hand in hand.

Ok just ignore the facts go ahead, if rape went hand in hand with slavery you'd think that the deep south would have alot more mixed race people, but it had less than the cities and upper south.

Sally Hemings says hi.

 

[GermanDjinn]

I guess not every admin is current year either like you.

How is knowing slavery and the confederacy was bad in 2019 a bad thing?

 

[Jack Douglass]

So that makes it okay that legally slaves were livestock unless their masters wanted to fuck them?

Jesus motherfucking Christ on a crystal meth binge, man, you've gone from "Lost Cause doesn't real" to "slavery wasn't that bad"

Jesus motherfucking Meinertzhagen's Haversack H Lothario Percival Wulfrick Brian Godfuck Christ, dude.

Slavers weren't livestock, they had rights, the Southern courts determined that slaves were not equitable to a horse, also quite a good number of slaveowners recieved punishment for mistreating their slaves according to the book Slavery and the Law.

 

[Jack Douglass]

How is knowing slavery and the confederacy was bad in 2019 a bad thing?

I guess because it's not an argument you just assume everyone should agree with you based on what year it is.

 

[Jack Douglass]

Sally Hemings says hi.

I don't know about Sally Hemmings too much, but I don't know if there is evidence to suggest she was a flatout rape victim, or if she was coerced perhaps.