Indeed, the Church of Ireland was disestablished roughly sixty years prior to Partition and the C of I, although the largest Protestant denomination, has never represented more than 35% of the NI Protestant population.no change.
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but if England separated church from the state then that would mean the British authorities would have at least some different attitudes right?Nothing
There was no established Church in Ireland, or Northern Ireland after 1922. Ireland/Northern Ireland had/has a different legal system to both England (incl Wales) and Scotland. In the latter country the established church is the Church of Scotland, a Presbyterian rather than Episcopalian, Church.
Northern Ireland Unionists are mostly members of Congregational rather than Episcopalian churches
I'm not trolling. I thought England being a secular state would have ramifications throughout the UKStop feeding the troll. Church of Ireland was disestablished in 1869 ..........
Really? 30 sec at most in a search engine would have told you your query was moot.I'm not trolling. I thought England being a secular state would have ramifications throughout the UK
In England? Maybe.but if England separated church from the state then that would mean the British authorities would have at least some different attitudes right?
If you have a UK political class that is sufficiently secular to support disestabilishment, then they might also be a bit more pro-Catholic too, but I dont think the act of disestabilishment itself would change much itself. Even changing religious attitudes in the UK isn't going to have a huge effect on the Troubles, because it wasn't a religious conflict, even if the opposing sides were Protestant and Catholic.but if England separated church from the state then that would mean the British authorities would have at least some different attitudes right?
Historically Britain has been increasingly tolerant of Catholicism since the 1880s. Increasing numbers of upper and upper middle class conversions, removal of historic religious disabilities etc.If you have a UK political class that is sufficiently secular to support disestabilishment, then they might also be a bit more pro-Catholic too, but I dont think the act of disestabilishment itself would change much itself. Even changing religious attitudes in the UK isn't going to have a huge effect on the Troubles, because it wasn't a religious conflict, even if the opposing sides were Protestant and Catholic.
If you have a UK political class that is sufficiently secular to support disestabilishment, then they might also be a bit more pro-Catholic too,
you are trollingI'm not trolling. I thought England being a secular state would have ramifications throughout the UK
TBF, most of the non-conformist churches in Northern Ireland are simply various forms of Presbyterian or Baptists. Not extremist per se but liable to be anti "Rome Rule".it appears the OP is confusing the Church of Ireland with the extremist sects and cults that the militant unionists call their church ...
when you are talking about the likes of the 'Free Presbyterian Church of Ulster' extremist is a mild termTBF, most of the non-conformist churches in Northern Ireland are simply various forms of Presbyterian or Baptists. Not extremist per se but liable to be anti "Rome Rule".
But first you would have to explain how this could happen in the 1950s. This was still a period of deference to authority and the monarchy. The consequences might be significant for Britain, but mainly because you are implying a POD that leads to a very different culture where separating church and state is a possibility.I'm not trolling. I thought England being a secular state would have ramifications throughout the UK
Maybe because the Queen (or then maybe it was king) isn't really the head of state anymore and just a figurehead they could just remove any taxes from going to the royal family and let them live off Anglican tithes. I don't see why not just separate after thatBut first you would have to explain how this could happen in the 1950s. This was still a period of deference to authority and the monarchy. The consequences might be significant for Britain, but mainly because you are implying a POD that leads to a very different culture where separating church and state is a possibility.
Tithes were abolished a lot earlier, and the Royal family wasn't supported from taxes anyway it was supported by a share of the revenue from the Crown Estates (with the rest of that revenue taken by the Treasury).Maybe because the Queen (or then maybe it was king) isn't really the head of state anymore and just a figurehead they could just remove any taxes from going to the royal family and let them live off Anglican tithes. I don't see why not just separate after that