If Japan didnt surrender after Nagasaki.

[SpamBotSam]

I think if Japan didnt surrender in WW2 after Nagasaki, then several more cities would have been bombed too. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic...gasaki#Plans_for_more_atomic_attacks_on_Japan

Plans for more atomic attacks on Japan


Groves expected to have another atomic bomb ready for use on August 19, with three more in September and a further three in October.[83] On August 10, he sent a memorandum to Marshall in which he wrote that "the next bomb ... should be ready for delivery on the first suitable weather after 17 or 18 August." On the same day, Marshall endorsed the memo with the comment, "It is not to be released over Japan without express authority from the President."[83]

There was already discussion in the War Department about conserving the bombs then in production for Operation Downfall. "The problem now [August 13] is whether or not, assuming the Japanese do not capitulate, to continue dropping them every time one is made and shipped out there or whether to hold them ... and then pour them all on in a reasonably short time. Not all in one day, but over a short period. And that also takes into consideration the target that we are after. In other words, should we not concentrate on targets that will be of the greatest assistance to an invasion rather than industry, morale, psychology, and the like? Nearer the tactical use rather than other use."[83]

Two more Fat Man assemblies were readied. The third core was scheduled to leave Kirtland Field for Tinian on August 15,[205] and Tibbets was ordered by LeMay to return to Utah to collect it.[206] Robert Bacher was packaging it for shipment in Los Alamos on August 14 when he received word from Groves that the shipment was suspended.[207]

Operation Downfall would happen, more american and Japanese soldiers wouldve died in the war, and of course, many current american and japanese people in this generation (possibly me included) wouldnt exist today, because with more war going on, their relatives would die in war before their parents were born.

Of course, with the war with Japan continuing more, it would have given Russia an opportunity to invade Japan, thus making them communist and Soviet, after they surrender at some point. Japan would be another enemy of America during the cold war. Because of communist influence, even after the fall of communism, Japan would be like China today, despite being westernized, it would be suspicious of the US and would have more stricter laws.

 

[Mr.Progressive]

Korea goes 100% communist, and China falls much sooner. The British would match into Burma and Indo-China.

The top island goes Communist, the rest of Japan is free

 

[SpamBotSam]

Korea goes 100% communist, and China falls much sooner. The British would match into Burma and Indo-China.

The top island goes Communist, the rest of Japan is free

Wouldnt that mean Hokkaido also becomes a separate nation (kinda like a soviet satallite state) from the rest of Japan?

 

[Look More Closely Later]

British in Far East

...The British would match into Burma and Indo-China...

The British plus allies had already just about pushed the Japanese out of Burma by mid '45. Next major tasks* on the British to-do list would be liberating Malaya and Singapore, I think.

Edit:
* Possibly some sort of operation against the Andaman Islands, too; I'm not sure how capable of resisting what forces the Japanese had on the islands at the time would have been.

 

[CalBear]

The chances of an Invasion were reducing almost daily. About the only person still in favor was MacArthur, and the more the Americans looked the less hopeful they became.

Japan starves and is burned to the ground. For every month the war continues ~100,000 civilians in Japanese occupied territory die.

The Soviets might have gone for Hokkiado. A lot depends on what Stalin's read of Truman is.

Bad juju all the way around.

 

[gaijin]

I think the only way to keep Japan in the war after Nagasaki, was to keep the Soviets out. The Japanese high command wasn't really that impressed by Hiroshima and Nagasaki alone (Hiroshima and Nagasaki were destroyed by one bomb, all other Japanese cities were destroyed by many bombs, key point is, pretty much every major population center had already been flattened before the nuclear bombs, and they were still ready to continue. They were willing to fight after Tokyo, Oosaka, Nagoya were turned to rubble.)

The real shock was the Soviet invasion: the Imperial high command was still in the faint hope to bleed the US and use the Soviets to arrange a cease fire. With the Soviets joining the Allies, even the most hard core imperialist knew the game was up.

 

[SpamBotSam]

The chances of an Invasion were reducing almost daily. About the only person still in favor was MacArthur, and the more the Americans looked the less hopeful they became.

Japan starves and is burned to the ground. For every month the war continues ~100,000 civilians in Japanese occupied territory die.

The Soviets might have gone for Hokkiado. A lot depends on what Stalin's read of Truman is.

Bad juju all the way around.

If that happened, do you think when Hokkadio becomes westernized in the 90s (kinda like China did after the fall of communism), they would join back to Japan, or become their own separate country, kinda like Taiwan?

 

[brovane]

I don't know if you have already read the timeline here "Decisive Darkness". ATL about Japan not surrendering after Nagasaki.

https://www.alternatehistory.com/discussion/showthread.php?t=296250

 

[Tizoc]

Even with US eagerness for invasion dropping, won't it decide to go with Downfall anyway in case of Soviet attack on Hokkaido, as US may get worried that Soviets may take over Japan?