If all former European monarchies....
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It's hard to say. Since France was the first of those states to get rid of their monarch, the pod would have to be in the latter half of the 18th centuary. Which would result in a butterfly effect.
I probably misphrased the question. It would have been better to say "Who is is the current "claimant" to each former European monarchy"?
Possibilities for a few civil wars there if the monarchies were still in existence
Right:
- France:
- legitimists: Louis Alphonse
- orleanists: Henri, comte de Paris
- bonapartists: Charles Napoléon
- Germany: Georg Friedrich
- Austria-Hungary: Otto von Habsburg
- Ireland: Elizabeth II of the United Kingdom
- Greece: Constantine II
- Bulgaria: Simeon Saxe-Coburg-Gotha
- Romania: Michael I
- Italy: Vittorio Emanuele
- Portugal: Duarte Pio, Duke of Braganza
- Russia: see here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Line_of_succession_to_the_Russian_throne
- Yugoslavia: Alexander
Grey Wolf
Donor
The problem is that whilst some of them would definitely be the monarch if their monarchies had never been deposed (Zog's son Leka and Simeon of Bulgaria for example), other dynasties followed patterns in exile completely divergent from what they would have done so had they remained in power. Apart from the multi-massacred Romanovs (who might still have ended up with Vladimir but not his daughter in all probability), other lines saw claimants marry morganatically, renounce succession, or in the case of Spain have it renounced for them (the Duke of Cadiz), or contract marriages which ARE of the correct degree but with lines that would have made no sense had they remained in power, or with individuals they only came into contact with because they shared a place of exile
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Grey Wolf
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Grey Wolf
Susano
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Well, yes, Grey, but OTOH, dynastic laws are not worth anything anymore, because monarchies nowadays are constitutional. Nobody cares anymore if a monarch or heir marries a non-noble, the concept of morganatic marriages doesnt exist anymore. Nowadays, who may or may not sit on the throne is decided not by such laws, but by the respective government or parliament. And those governments or parliaments would notexclude claimants because of wrong marriages or soemsuch, so we can safely ignore that.
Of course, that is operating under the assumption of monarchy being restored everywhere, miracously. With monarchy simply never being abolished, the butterfly effect would indeed create totally different persons.
Of course, that is operating under the assumption of monarchy being restored everywhere, miracously. With monarchy simply never being abolished, the butterfly effect would indeed create totally different persons.
Grey Wolf
Donor
Oh sorry, I didn't realise it was about what if they were restored, but thought it was about what if they had never been deposed !
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Grey Wolf
Susano
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Yeah, well, its not been made entirely clear. The thread title and Op talk about the latter, but Detritus second post kind of clarified the former.
And really, if we couldnt create alternate dynastical lines for ourselves, what would be the fun in pre-monarchy abolishment PoDs?
Yeah, well, its not been made entirely clear. The thread title and Op talk about the latter, but Detritus second post kind of clarified the former.
And really, if we couldnt create alternate dynastical lines for ourselves, what would be the fun in pre-monarchy abolishment PoDs?
This is probably something for our friends the ASBs to deal with. Have all former monarchies restored overnight. However they wouldn't understand the idea of rival claimants so we would end up with multiple monarchs in several countries
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