I find it very hard to conceive of a Communist Japan except in the very unlikely event that the Red Army occupies Japan as a whole (they would have had trouble enough conquering Hokkaido IMO). But if the Soviets are strong enough to do that, they are surely strong enough to ensure a Communist victory in China or at the very least the prevention of a total defeat of the Chinese Communists.
How would a Kuomintang-controlled China change the Cold War?
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I find it very hard to conceive of a Communist Japan except in the very unlikely event that the Red Army occupies Japan as a whole (they would have had trouble enough conquering Hokkaido IMO). But if the Soviets are strong enough to do that, they are surely strong enough to ensure a Communist victory in China or at the very least the prevention of a total defeat of the Chinese Communists.
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Depends on who's in charge of Kuomintang China and if they align themselves as a hard US/ Western ally, a more loose alliance with the West or adopt a Third Position.
It is more possible if China gets to remain Monarchist or Russia and America decide to divide japan instead of the Nuclear bomb.
Both South Korea and Mexico can be pretty pollutive, especially Mexico, in my experience. In general, the more developed and populated a country is, the more pollution it brings. Even if they outsource the pollution to other countries, in the end, it is those rich and prosperous nation's that are responsible for creating a lot of pollution. So, a rich China would still cause a lot of pollution, at least until they change their sources of energy.
That depends a great deal on how you define pollution. Please note that the post which I responded to distinguished between co2 emissions and pollution (and sea trash for some odd reason)
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I look into option for Kuomintang China in my "Kaiserreich a TL"
here Chiang Kai-shek goes to Germany for military education in 1906
That influence politic of Kuomintang, special in Combat against Japan Communist and Soviets in 1930s-1940s
And he listens to the Germans Advisors, instead to Americans Diplomats.
like to do a landowner Reform for farmers
This China is 20 years ahead economically
But it face heavy industrial pollution and over population
under assumption that "one child law" was never introduced or far to late in 1980s in this TL
I guessed that China would have in TL a population of 1.3 Billion people in 1983.
Political outcome with Kuomintang China:
There some important historical events were a Kuomintang China has mayor political change and for US
Imagine a Korea War were Chinese Army invade the North Korea on Chiang Kai-shek order to deal with Communism
or a Vietnam War or better say a Indochina War were Chinese Army invade North Vietnam
because Chiang Kai-shek claimed north Vietnam as a secessionists province of China (historical they were under Ming Dynasty)
In Tl there Triple Cold War situation between USA, German Empire and China
and Japan ?
it's the historical looser in this scenario, the rapid grow and industrialization of China and Korea in 1950, side line Japan economically.
there could suppliers for Chines Companies...
...if they want to make business with them, but it's more likely they boycott Japan for what they dit in WW2 to china
and with out a US Korea War what kickstarted the Japanese Economy
Japan will not be economic superpower of 1980s that will be China.
it's more Asia poor men country like Lao, Thailand or philippines
here Chiang Kai-shek goes to Germany for military education in 1906
That influence politic of Kuomintang, special in Combat against Japan Communist and Soviets in 1930s-1940s
And he listens to the Germans Advisors, instead to Americans Diplomats.
like to do a landowner Reform for farmers
This China is 20 years ahead economically
But it face heavy industrial pollution and over population
under assumption that "one child law" was never introduced or far to late in 1980s in this TL
I guessed that China would have in TL a population of 1.3 Billion people in 1983.
Political outcome with Kuomintang China:
There some important historical events were a Kuomintang China has mayor political change and for US
Imagine a Korea War were Chinese Army invade the North Korea on Chiang Kai-shek order to deal with Communism
or a Vietnam War or better say a Indochina War were Chinese Army invade North Vietnam
because Chiang Kai-shek claimed north Vietnam as a secessionists province of China (historical they were under Ming Dynasty)
In Tl there Triple Cold War situation between USA, German Empire and China
and Japan ?
it's the historical looser in this scenario, the rapid grow and industrialization of China and Korea in 1950, side line Japan economically.
there could suppliers for Chines Companies...
...if they want to make business with them, but it's more likely they boycott Japan for what they dit in WW2 to china
and with out a US Korea War what kickstarted the Japanese Economy
Japan will not be economic superpower of 1980s that will be China.
it's more Asia poor men country like Lao, Thailand or philippines
Assuming the 1940s history of corruption & incompetence within the KMT continues I'm not sure I want them with a nuclear power program.
Do what, exactly? Japan is an island and the Red Navy was no match for the USN so what exactly is Russia going to do about it?
The Russians might support a Communist revolt in Japan like they did IOTL in China...especially if Japan still goes the authoritarian path.
This is my point, this scenario could cause Japan to go red due to the Japanese resentment for WWII against the government especially the Anti-War factions, the postwar recovery is what prevented this.
Japan is basically locked down after the war. The USN is patrolling its coasts the US Army is occupying it and the new government is more terrified of the Communists then US Authorities so again, what exactly is it going to do?
Japan going communist is unlikely after the war..but if KMT allies with the Soviets due to a Sino-NATO split due to KMT hating Japan it is likely.
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That would be a stupid move of them, particularly after beating the Communists. Japan is under US occupation and is no threat. Due to no Korean War and a friendly China, it isn't likely to be as strongly backed by the US as OTL.
Chiang was anti-communist, but not necessarily anti-Soviet. Additionally, at numerous points durring WWII tensions between the Americans and Chiang were strained pretty badly.
The RoC is likely non-aligned.
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Would they break down on opium as harshly? If not China might have a issue with opium production and triads. The communist did do a good job at getting rid of this. Also do they restrict emigration as much or no? That would have massive butterflies given the population of China?
You know how Yugoslavia stayed out of the eastern camp because of Stalin and then grew somewhat closer to the USSR over the later decades? I think something of the opposite would happen, with China staying decidedly out of the western camp until Truman is out of office, then heavily leaning towards the west.
There are many stupid things that did happen in history...and revaunchism is one of them.