PakistaniGuyUK
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This thread is inspired by another one “What was the best case scenario for Afghanistan” but also fits in well alongside the recent one by Sardar, “Powerful India’s effects on the Cold War in Asia and the Middle East?” Many people inevitably come down heavy on Pakistan, on this forum, and its influence is generally perceived as negative. But how would a best-case scenario for Pakistan, from its inception in 1948, have affected the World?Just a reminder guys that this is a WI not an AHC… so this is the scenario that plays out… somehow… and I’m not asking you to analyse why/why not it would happen. But if it DID happen, in your opinion how would it alter World Politics?
IMHO TWO THINGS are the MOST important in order to hand Pakistan a best-case scenario. But I’ll add a third and fourth (Afghanistan and a less influential Army) to make it even better:
1. Kashmir becomes part of Pakistan and India grudgingly accepts this and decides against war.
Pakistan gains all of Kashmir either through Maharajah Singh deciding to side with Pakistan, or this being decided in a UN plebiscite very early on. India though not fully happy with it, accepts this reality, making plans to accommodate any Hindu refugees that wish to reside in India. (Similar to Italian Istria I guess, which went to Yugoslavia without much protest from Italy, but it was of course on a much smaller scale). Nonetheless the remaining Kashmiri Hindus don’t get expelled by Pakistan nor by local Kashmiris. Pakistan thus is left with a significant Hindu minority in Kashmir in 1948 – whether they end up feeling “Pakistani” or not only time will tell, or if there emerges a sort of reverse insurgency (at least in Jammu) seeking secession from Pakistan and union with India. But for this to be a best-case scenario, India does not meddle with this status quo, at least not for the initial two decades up to the 1960s.
2. Afghanistan becomes the first nation to recognize Pakistan, King Zahir Shah warmly accepts the Durand Line while hoping to foster brotherly relations between both countries
OTL Afghanistan gave a lot of pushback to the formation of Pakistan. The border tribes did initially wish for their provinces to be part of Afghanistan (though to what extent Afghan propagandising was responsible for this is up for debate). Over time this desire has more or less dissipated at least on the Pakistani Pashtun side, the fear of unchecked Punjabi domination having largely subsided thanks to increased Pashtun influence and representation. But let’s say in our ‘best case ATL,’ Afghanistan (not Iran) is the first country to recognize and support Pakistan and the idea of Pakistan, working hard as a mediator and facilitator to ensure the ethnic Pashtuns are integrated within the new polity instead of working to disrupt it. ATL Afghanistan wouldn’t abandon the Pakistani Pashtuns but instead embark on a policy of encouraging Pakistan to fully integrate their kinsmen into Pakistani society and push for their rights on all platforms. This would be no different to the Afghan-Tajik relationship – the latter always fully supported their brethen across the border but never once expressed a desire to dismember Afghanistan.
3. As a result of the above, Pakistan doesn’t need to spend excessively on Defence and the Army has less influence in domestic politics
As of 2019 Pakistan spent more on its defence as a percentage of GDP than India, Russia, or even the United States. Yet in terms of land mass or population its smaller than all of them. The fact remains that the Army in OTL Pakistan has always held massive political influence and hasn't always been accountable to the PM as the case with the United States or Britain. ATL Pakistan wouldn’t need to spend so much on defence. This would bolster the democratic process a great deal, lessen the influence of the Army and instead successive Pakistani goverments could utilize it for things like national infrastructure projects (roads, rail etc), peace-keeping, relief work or foreign peacekeeping missions.
4. Jinnah dies in 1978 aged 100
Aligned with the above 2 points, let’s say Jinnah (the founder of Pakistan) doesn’t die a mere month after the creation of Pakistan but survives till age 101. This would push his death date to 1978. The likely outcome of this is Jinnah either making himself PM for life at some stage which could be turn out either good or bad (Lee Kuan Yew or Robert Mugabe) or possibly consecutively voted in by the general public in regular elections and resigns with dignity (i.e. Angela Merkel). All depends on his character, outlook, disposition, which we sadly never got to see, along with his vision for Pakistan which up to this day is still up for debate. But some of what he believed in can be gleaned from his quotes:
On Religious tolerance/secularism:
“You are free; you are free to go to your temples. You are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the state.”
On Female Emancipation:
“No nation can ever be worthy of its existence that cannot take its women along with the men. No struggle can ever succeed without women participating side by side with men. There are two powers in the world; one is the sword and the other is the pen. There is a great competition and rivalry between the two. There is a third power stronger than both, that of the women.”
On India:
“I sincerely hope that they (relations between India and Pakistan) will be friendly and cordial. We have a great deal to do...and think that we can be of use to each other and to the world.”
Personally I think the gist of it is he was a very moderate Muslim and as long as he was alive he’d have likely moulded Pakistan into a moderate nation with a Muslim identity… but I will share no more of my own thoughts for fear of influencing replies… I’m more interested in what other people think rather than my own assumptions…
So how good – or bad – would a ‘best-case scenario’ for Pakistan, be for the World?
Could all the stars aligning for the newly formed nation-state have propelled it into the ‘First World’ - in the direction of Taiwan, Singapore etc? Or would low level corruption always remain thus turning it into another middle-of-the-road Malaysia (neither poor nor overly wealthy due to endemic corruption)?”
Regional:
How would this ATL Pakistan have impacted its neighbours - Afghanistan, China, and Iran (and also Burma)?
What kind of India would we see emerging alongside this ATL Pakistan - would it potentially be richer and more influential?
How close can the relationship between India and Pakistan get in this ATL (at least there will be much less antagonism from the Pakistani side)?
International:
How would ATL Pakistan have impacted the Cold War?
How would this have impacted international Islamism and terrorism?
What events would possibly get butterflied away and which ones would be same as OTL?
What new events or outcomes or relationships may emerge that aren't present in OTL?
IMHO TWO THINGS are the MOST important in order to hand Pakistan a best-case scenario. But I’ll add a third and fourth (Afghanistan and a less influential Army) to make it even better:
1. Kashmir becomes part of Pakistan and India grudgingly accepts this and decides against war.
Pakistan gains all of Kashmir either through Maharajah Singh deciding to side with Pakistan, or this being decided in a UN plebiscite very early on. India though not fully happy with it, accepts this reality, making plans to accommodate any Hindu refugees that wish to reside in India. (Similar to Italian Istria I guess, which went to Yugoslavia without much protest from Italy, but it was of course on a much smaller scale). Nonetheless the remaining Kashmiri Hindus don’t get expelled by Pakistan nor by local Kashmiris. Pakistan thus is left with a significant Hindu minority in Kashmir in 1948 – whether they end up feeling “Pakistani” or not only time will tell, or if there emerges a sort of reverse insurgency (at least in Jammu) seeking secession from Pakistan and union with India. But for this to be a best-case scenario, India does not meddle with this status quo, at least not for the initial two decades up to the 1960s.
2. Afghanistan becomes the first nation to recognize Pakistan, King Zahir Shah warmly accepts the Durand Line while hoping to foster brotherly relations between both countries
OTL Afghanistan gave a lot of pushback to the formation of Pakistan. The border tribes did initially wish for their provinces to be part of Afghanistan (though to what extent Afghan propagandising was responsible for this is up for debate). Over time this desire has more or less dissipated at least on the Pakistani Pashtun side, the fear of unchecked Punjabi domination having largely subsided thanks to increased Pashtun influence and representation. But let’s say in our ‘best case ATL,’ Afghanistan (not Iran) is the first country to recognize and support Pakistan and the idea of Pakistan, working hard as a mediator and facilitator to ensure the ethnic Pashtuns are integrated within the new polity instead of working to disrupt it. ATL Afghanistan wouldn’t abandon the Pakistani Pashtuns but instead embark on a policy of encouraging Pakistan to fully integrate their kinsmen into Pakistani society and push for their rights on all platforms. This would be no different to the Afghan-Tajik relationship – the latter always fully supported their brethen across the border but never once expressed a desire to dismember Afghanistan.
3. As a result of the above, Pakistan doesn’t need to spend excessively on Defence and the Army has less influence in domestic politics
As of 2019 Pakistan spent more on its defence as a percentage of GDP than India, Russia, or even the United States. Yet in terms of land mass or population its smaller than all of them. The fact remains that the Army in OTL Pakistan has always held massive political influence and hasn't always been accountable to the PM as the case with the United States or Britain. ATL Pakistan wouldn’t need to spend so much on defence. This would bolster the democratic process a great deal, lessen the influence of the Army and instead successive Pakistani goverments could utilize it for things like national infrastructure projects (roads, rail etc), peace-keeping, relief work or foreign peacekeeping missions.
4. Jinnah dies in 1978 aged 100
Aligned with the above 2 points, let’s say Jinnah (the founder of Pakistan) doesn’t die a mere month after the creation of Pakistan but survives till age 101. This would push his death date to 1978. The likely outcome of this is Jinnah either making himself PM for life at some stage which could be turn out either good or bad (Lee Kuan Yew or Robert Mugabe) or possibly consecutively voted in by the general public in regular elections and resigns with dignity (i.e. Angela Merkel). All depends on his character, outlook, disposition, which we sadly never got to see, along with his vision for Pakistan which up to this day is still up for debate. But some of what he believed in can be gleaned from his quotes:
On Religious tolerance/secularism:
“You are free; you are free to go to your temples. You are free to go to your mosques or to any other places of worship in this State of Pakistan. You may belong to any religion, caste or creed—that has nothing to do with the business of the state.”
On Female Emancipation:
“No nation can ever be worthy of its existence that cannot take its women along with the men. No struggle can ever succeed without women participating side by side with men. There are two powers in the world; one is the sword and the other is the pen. There is a great competition and rivalry between the two. There is a third power stronger than both, that of the women.”
On India:
“I sincerely hope that they (relations between India and Pakistan) will be friendly and cordial. We have a great deal to do...and think that we can be of use to each other and to the world.”
Personally I think the gist of it is he was a very moderate Muslim and as long as he was alive he’d have likely moulded Pakistan into a moderate nation with a Muslim identity… but I will share no more of my own thoughts for fear of influencing replies… I’m more interested in what other people think rather than my own assumptions…
So how good – or bad – would a ‘best-case scenario’ for Pakistan, be for the World?
Could all the stars aligning for the newly formed nation-state have propelled it into the ‘First World’ - in the direction of Taiwan, Singapore etc? Or would low level corruption always remain thus turning it into another middle-of-the-road Malaysia (neither poor nor overly wealthy due to endemic corruption)?”
Regional:
How would this ATL Pakistan have impacted its neighbours - Afghanistan, China, and Iran (and also Burma)?
What kind of India would we see emerging alongside this ATL Pakistan - would it potentially be richer and more influential?
How close can the relationship between India and Pakistan get in this ATL (at least there will be much less antagonism from the Pakistani side)?
International:
How would ATL Pakistan have impacted the Cold War?
How would this have impacted international Islamism and terrorism?
What events would possibly get butterflied away and which ones would be same as OTL?
What new events or outcomes or relationships may emerge that aren't present in OTL?
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