Keenir said:given explosives, and they'd be indistinguishable from a modern suicide bomber.
Proof, please.
If you're concerned about pogroms, the Library of Alexandria, etc. that was AFTER the power-corrupts process started, not before.
Keenir said:given explosives, and they'd be indistinguishable from a modern suicide bomber.
MerryPrankster, when will you learn that all religous people are intrisnically evil, hateful, biased people who want nothing more than a destruction of all science and a return to the Dark Ages (or, in the case of early Christianity, the Dark Ages to happen)MerryPrankster said:Proof, please.
If you're concerned about pogroms, the Library of Alexandria, etc. that was AFTER the power-corrupts process started, not before.
Abdul Hadi Pasha said:Leej:
Perfidious = treacherous
Albion = an old term, used, usually poetically, for England or Great Britain.
Sheesh, the state of education these days.
Constantine didn't make Christianity the state religion; he merely legalized it. It didn't really become the official religion of the state until much later.Paul Spring said:I thought "early Christians" referred to the pre-Constantine period, or even just the first 2 centuries. The mobs of fanatic monks, attacks on pagans, temples, etc., became a big deal 2-3 generations after Constantine, when Christianity had become a state religion.
Paul Spring said:I thought "early Christians" referred to the pre-Constantine period, or even just the first 2 centuries. The mobs of fanatic monks, attacks on pagans, temples, etc., became a big deal 2-3 generations after Constantine, when Christianity had become a state religion.
carlton_bach said:Proof would be difficult to come by, given that the early Christians certainly had precious little opportunity to terrorise anyone in a state that disapproved of rebellion and disloyalty. However, the fate of some early dissenters within Christianity leaves me relatively little hope that they would have proved any different from their later cousins. Especially since the official church actually largely disapproved of the violent actions of mons and mobs, and in the case of the circumcellions went so far as to - what's the phrase - abandon them to the secular arm?.
zoomar said:To go with the "10 most evil" poll here's your opportunity to rank 10 randomly selected movements/regimes in history as "good guys"
(3) Confucian China
(6) The Ottoman Empire
(8) The British Empire
(9) The United States[/quote](5) Early Islamic Civilization
(2) The Roman Empire
(10) Modern European Social Democracy
(7) Napoleonic France
(1) Greek Rationalist-Classical Civilization
(4) Early Christianity (prior to its adoption as Roman state church)
carlton_bach said:Proof would be difficult to come by, given that the early Christians certainly had precious little opportunity to terrorise anyone in a state that disapproved of rebellion and disloyalty. However, the fate of some early dissenters within Christianity leaves me relatively little hope that they would have proved any different from their later cousins. Especially since the official church actually largely disapproved of the violent actions of mons and mobs, and in the case of the circumcellions went so far as to - what's the phrase - abandon them to the secular arm?.
Paul Spring said:Christians in the pre-Constantine period killed dissenters within their own ranks? I'd never heard of that. I was under the impression that early Christian communities were pretty autonomous - if the community didn't like the views of a person or a small group, they were generally expelled, and ended up founding their own group.
Grey Wolf said:Oh I should think that the Ottoman Empire is in there because they were historically very tolerant towards minorities of ethnic or religious types. This gave these communities local self government and rights that religious minorities elsewhere in Europe lacked
Keenir said:and the absolute worst:
given explosives, and they'd be indistinguishable from a modern suicide bomber.
SkyEmperor said:The early Christian Church was a very peaceful and enlightened movement.
they are slod the only ones on the list without a terrible blackmark on their record, so they get my vote.
SkyEmperor said:(In one day the Romans crucified 5000 Christians, and burned their bodies to illuminate the roads into the city).
The early Christian Church was a very peaceful and enlightened movement.
they are slod the only ones on the list without a terrible blackmark on their record, so they get my vote.