Goring killed in Beer Hall Putsch
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The Luftwaffe could hardly be worse off from a management point of view. The Luftwaffe would still be prominent in Nazi propaganda - being seen as repudiating Versailles but would likely not enjoy the prestige it had without it’s leader being at the pinnacle of the party hierarchy and the heir apparent to boot.
All depends on who gets the job, given its so early it would be more of a political appointment rather than the best military choice. I agree is likely to be someone with less clout so less money but as aviation was the sexy prestige arm even then, that might mean just mean less fighters. Goring being an ex fighter ace did promote the fighter arm at a time when bombers were generally seen as the main force. So you could end up with the Bf109 being delayed and the Me110 ( Goring's pride and joy ) being cancelled whilst the Ju87's and He111's keep getting built.
Does not make a difference in the early campaigns, but Norway would be very fraught and France even more of a knife edge than OTL ( Sickle Cut was a massive success but the margin so small even a little butterfly could cause it to fail leading to a more slugging match than lighting strike. This would enable the French to regroup and Germany was not really set up for a war of attrition in 1940)
Does not make a difference in the early campaigns, but Norway would be very fraught and France even more of a knife edge than OTL ( Sickle Cut was a massive success but the margin so small even a little butterfly could cause it to fail leading to a more slugging match than lighting strike. This would enable the French to regroup and Germany was not really set up for a war of attrition in 1940)
Kariya
Banned
Goring would become the central saint of the Nazi party and symbol of sacrifices. Expect pilgrimages to his tomb once nazi's are in power. Luftwaffe would gain prestige since he and his piloting career could be tied to it and used to attract people to it. Besides, being a pilot is already seen as the most prestigious position in armed forces. Luftwaffe would be more or less the same. You need the to kill Jeschonnek if you wish to improve Luftwaffe, not Goring. He's the man behind catastrophic Stalingrad airlift and requiring all German bombers to be capable of dive bombing.
Goering was good at raising funds for the party from the industrialists and bankers. Without him there is a significant probability of the NSDAP collapsing into insolvency
Driftless
Donor
Goering provided some legitimacy for the party in early days, to those with money and political clout. He had a bit of the Peter Principle at work - there were definitely limitations at several levels to his skillset; but those weren't readily apparent till the Nazi machine became larger.
This is an interesting question. Hitler is obviously the central figure in the Nazi story, but Goering is a major figure too. Remove him... Hitler credited him with making something of the SA in the 1920s. How important was that? However it was before the Putsch, so it is OT.
Goering was important in keeping the NSDAP in business in the 1920s. As the "Salon Nazi", he raised money from the upper classes and provided a respectable face for a party notorious for street fighters. During the 1933 seizure of power, Goering was in contact with Hindenburg's circle and helped negotiate the terms of Hitler's appointment as Reichskanzler. He became Minister without Portfolio. He took charge of "Nazifying" the police, which were employed in the post-Reichstag Fire crackdown on the Communists.
If there is no Goering; the NSDAP probably veers more radical. Without him, Hitler and the Nazis may appear too radical for Hindenburg's circle, and remain stonewalled from power. The constitutional crisis continues, and Hitler may decide that he must gamble on seizing power by force, employing the huge number of SA men. If that gamble succeeds... the new regime will be very different from OTL.
Goering was important in keeping the NSDAP in business in the 1920s. As the "Salon Nazi", he raised money from the upper classes and provided a respectable face for a party notorious for street fighters. During the 1933 seizure of power, Goering was in contact with Hindenburg's circle and helped negotiate the terms of Hitler's appointment as Reichskanzler. He became Minister without Portfolio. He took charge of "Nazifying" the police, which were employed in the post-Reichstag Fire crackdown on the Communists.
If there is no Goering; the NSDAP probably veers more radical. Without him, Hitler and the Nazis may appear too radical for Hindenburg's circle, and remain stonewalled from power. The constitutional crisis continues, and Hitler may decide that he must gamble on seizing power by force, employing the huge number of SA men. If that gamble succeeds... the new regime will be very different from OTL.