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Asami

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That... doesn't look any different from OTL flags (except the first one, perhaps). Also, we must frequent different parts of the forum because I can't spot your RP from it.

Portal to the Multiverse; we're a small little tight-knit RP group of people ;)

And yeah, the flags aren't very different; other than the use of the Five Races Under One Union flag for Japan, not China.

http://imgur.com/a/oU6Xj <-- this one has some unique flags! :D
 
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Here's my second attempt at a flag for the Wessier Colony from Eckner's alt-Darwinia

Like the look of this. However, it's basically the same design as South Ireland with different colors. I don't think both colonies would go for the same design unless they were trying to show some sort of link or bond, which really isn't there in this case with Wesser and S. Ireland.

And here's my second attempt at a Hamburg colony flag

This looks great. However, I wonder if we should have some symbols from the flag of old Hamburg?
 
Flag of the Commune of Japan:

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Like the look of this. However, it's basically the same design as South Ireland with different colors. I don't think both colonies would go for the same design unless they were trying to show some sort of link or bond, which really isn't there in this case with Wesser and S. Ireland.



This looks great. However, I wonder if we should have some symbols from the flag of old Hamburg?

Okay, then how's about this for the Hamburg flag? I wasn't sure if I should have gone with two red bands and a central white band, seemed a little Austrian, or if I should go with a black, red and white design. What do you think?

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And here's a flag for the Rhineland settlement. It has the tri-color theme of the other Hudson flags, the stars as the logo of the company that founded it, and the colors I took inspiration from the otl Rhineland coat of arms

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Portal to the Multiverse; we're a small little tight-knit RP group of people ;)

And yeah, the flags aren't very different; other than the use of the Five Races Under One Union flag for Japan, not China.

http://imgur.com/a/oU6Xj <-- this one has some unique flags! :D

But... I'm from the Portal too. I hang out at the cafe and everything. Ok, maybe the dank corner of the cafe waiting on character RPs, but yeah. :V

Also, woah.
 
That... doesn't look any different from OTL flags (except the first one, perhaps). Also, we must frequent different parts of the forum because I can't spot your RP from it.

The Romanov dynastic flag wasn't very old, didn't last very long, and was not always used as the state flag (as opposed to the traditional white blue red). Maybe that's the divergence?
 
This is a flag I made just to test my new photoshop. When designing, I created a story in my head. It would be like an alternative history, in which the Societ Union is quickly restored after the Gorbachov's announcement in 1991. This new nation, that suceeds the USSR would be the Soviet Federation, as the members wouldn't accept to become simple satellites of Russia again. The members are Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, and Kazakhstan.

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Okay, then how's about this for the Hamburg flag? I wasn't sure if I should have gone with two red bands and a central white band, seemed a little Austrian, or if I should go with a black, red and white design. What do you think?

And here's a flag for the Rhineland settlement. It has the tri-color theme of the other Hudson flags, the stars as the logo of the company that founded it, and the colors I took inspiration from the otl Rhineland coat of arms

Like both of these flags Nick.

One possible thought though on Rhineland, and this is more me picking your brain to see what you think than anything else. This colony is actually founded by settlers who left the two earlier legally established colonies to be "left alone," but then later are brought under company and then government control.

I wonder if they might not want the company logo on their flag. The flip side is that the company might insist, as a reminder of who's now in charge.

Again, love the work you've been doing.
 
Like both of these flags Nick.

One possible thought though on Rhineland, and this is more me picking your brain to see what you think than anything else. This colony is actually founded by settlers who left the two earlier legally established colonies to be "left alone," but then later are brought under company and then government control.

I wonder if they might not want the company logo on their flag. The flip side is that the company might insist, as a reminder of who's now in charge.

Again, love the work you've been doing.

I'll message you with my thoughts. Anyway here's the flag of Upper Hudson. The blue comes from the flag of New York, I would have included a tan band for the old flag of New York, but brown looked better

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Also here's that alt-Darwinia Olympic flag. It has the torch eternal flame and all of the stars represent the nation's who have been touched by the legacy of the Olympics and of Ancient Greece as a whole

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Goldstein

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Out of the three current superstates, Oceania was, if not the first to adopt its final and perfected form, the first to materialize. Its precedent can be traced to the Allied Nations of the Second World War. It was a decade later, after Stalin's betrayal, that its remainder would become more and more closely integrated during the course of the Third World War. First Called the Oceanic Alliance due to its maritime vocation, it mainly comprised the republics of the Americas and the British Commonwealth of Nations. The process of integration icluded a single military, a transnational presidency, the use of the Dollar as a single currency and the unification of the measure systems. Even if it presented itself as the last beacon of democracy, from the beginning of its existence most of its guarantees had been curtailed by a constant state of emergency, and life standards only decreased for the course of the war, even more so when said war became atomic in nature and economies and infrastructures crumbled. The Historicist doctrine that would become the base of Oligarchical Colectivism would originate in New York City by the works of Emmanuel Goldstein, but it would initially find most of its adherents in the British Isles, as a splinter faction originated in both the Labour and the Conservative parties, preaching a form of Socialism that represented the aristocratic ethos and moral hygiene they claimed to be at the heart of English civilization and that would invigorate the whole of Oceania. A truly English Socialism.

Eurasia can be traced to the old Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and can be identified as such after the Soviets overran continental Europe in the early 50's. It was the now reviled Stalin the first who talked about an Eurasian Union, but it soon became clear between several disaffected groups of the CPEU and its new European collaborators, many of which had read Goldstein's works, and which included a great deal of reconverted Nazi sympathizers, that the increasingly paranoid and erratic Stalin had bitten more than he could chew, and that a great effort was at stake of being lost. If Eurasia, with its enormous cultural disparities, wanted to keep itself together, it needed a greater clarity of goals and more efficiency in the pursuit of regimentation, in the adoption of closed elites, in the elimination of dissidence. Stalinism was not enough; rebellion had to become impossible. Moreover, subjecting itself to the caprices of a madman weakened survival chances: party rule had to be total but collective, uniform but decentralized. The poisoning of Stalin unleashed the last big round of purges, whose survivors furiously called for a new revolution led by a new vanguard, a new majority. A New Bolshevism.

Eastasia was the last one to appear, out of the chaos of the Chinese Civil War and the bleeding Eurasian-Oceanic battlegrounds of the Japanese Isles. Again, Goldsteinist thought made a resolute faction of both the Chinese Communists and the Nationalists to realize they had much more in common than they thought. By the mid 50's, they were already pulling the strings of both sides of the war in the shadows, while stablishing direct line with the Japanese Goldsteinists, themselves influenced by a weird mix of the teachings of Nichiren Buddhism, Mencius and Ikki Kita. As a result, the body of doctrine espoused by the United Army of East Asia, when it was first named as such, was incredibly syncretic, but it appealed enough to far-right and far-left sensibilities to slowly sweep the dozens of antagonizing factions it faced through the chaotic East Asian Theatre. And of course, in spite of its syncretism, it followed to the letter the spirit in which the world was falling. The same fanaticism, the same hierarchical Collectivism, the same sadistic worship of power. The same Obliteration of the Self.

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Out of the three current superstates, Oceania was, if not the first to adopt its final and perfected form, the first to materialize. Its precedent can be traced to the Allied Nations of the Second World War. It was a decade later, after Stalin's betrayal, that its remainder would become more and more closely integrated during the course of the Third World War. First Called the Oceanic Alliance due to its maritime vocation, it mainly comprised the republics of the Americas and the British Commonwealth of Nations. The process of integration icluded a single military, a transnational presidency, the use of the Dollar as a single currency and the unification of the measure systems. Even if it presented itself as the last beacon of democracy, from the beginning of its existence most of its guarantees had been curtailed by a constant state of emergency, and life standards only decreased for the course of the war, even more so when said war became atomic in nature and economies and infrastructures crumbled. The Historicist doctrine that would become the base of Oligarchical Colectivism would originate in New York City by the works of Emmanuel Goldstein, but it would initially find most of its adherents in the British Isles, as a splinter faction originated in both the Labour and the Conservative parties, preaching a form of Socialism that represented the aristocratic ethos and moral hygiene they claimed to be at the heart of English civilization and that would invigorate the whole of Oceania. A truly English Socialism.

Eurasia can be traced to the old Union of Soviet Socialist Republics, and can be identified as such after the Soviets overran continental Europe in the early 50's. It was the now reviled Stalin the first who talked about an Eurasian Union, but it soon became clear between several disaffected groups of the CPEU and its new European collaborators, many of which had read Goldstein's works, and which included a great deal of reconverted Nazi sympathizers, that the increasingly paranoid and erratic Stalin had bitten more than he could chew, and that a great effort was at stake of being lost. If Eurasia, with its enormous cultural disparities, wanted to keep itself together, it needed a greater clarity of goals and more efficiency in the pursuit of regimentation, in the adoption of closed elites, in the elimination of dissidence. Stalinism was not enough; rebellion had to become impossible. Moreover, subjecting itself to the caprices of a madman weakened survival chances: party rule had to be total but collective, uniform but decentralized. The poisoning of Stalin unleashed the last big round of purges, whose survivors furiously called for a new revolution led by a new vanguard, a new majority. A New Bolshevism.

Eastasia was the last one to appear, out of the chaos of the Chinese Civil War and the bleeding Eurasian-Oceanic battlegrounds of the Japanese Isles. Again, Goldsteinist thought made a resolute faction of both the Chinese Communists and the Nationalists to realize they had much more in common than they thought. By the mid 50's, they were already pulling the strings of both sides of the war in the shadows, while stablishing direct line with the Japanese Goldsteinists, themselves influenced by a weird mix of the teachings of Nichiren Buddhism, Mencius and Ikki Kita. As a result, the body of doctrine espoused by the United Army of East Asia, when it was first named as such, was incredibly syncretic, but it appealed enough to far-right and far-left sensibilities to slowly sweep the dozens of antagonizing factions it faced through the chaotic East Asian Theatre. And of course, in spite of its syncretism, it followed to the letter the spirit in which the world was falling. The same fanaticism, the same hierarchical Collectivism, the same sadistic worship of power. The same Obliteration of the Self.

Hmmm.... I like the Oceania flag, but I think the wreath in the Eurasia flag should by gold to make it more unified, and maybe put one star on either side. That, or nix the stars completely. As for some other suggestions, I say uniform the red of the Eastasia flag, and either make the sun yellow or the background white. Right now it seems a tad hodgepodge.
 
Hmmm.... I like the Oceania flag, but I think the wreath in the Eurasia flag should by gold to make it more unified, and maybe put one star on either side. That, or nix the stars completely. As for some other suggestions, I say uniform the red of the Eastasia flag, and either make the sun yellow or the background white. Right now it seems a tad hodgepodge.

And replace the claw hammer on the Eurasia flag- it looks like the Brotherhood of Soviet Carpenters
 

Goldstein

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Hmmm.... I like the Oceania flag, but I think the wreath in the Eurasia flag should by gold to make it more unified, and maybe put one star on either side. That, or nix the stars completely. As for some other suggestions, I say uniform the red of the Eastasia flag, and either make the sun yellow or the background white. Right now it seems a tad hodgepodge.

The convolution of the Eastasian flag is intentional, I fear. The disposition of symbols in Eurasia is supposed to evoke both Soviet and Nazi imagery, and it would lose connotations if I went with those changes. Thanks for the feedback, though.

And replace the claw hammer on the Eurasia flag- it looks like the Brotherhood of Soviet Carpenters

I was specifically looking for a claw hammer as a Pink-Floyd-esque reference. For now I see nothing wrong with it. More than carpenters, I think about builders.
 
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Goldstein

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Also, try standardising the colours and designs. The nice simple ones like Vall D'Aran and El Carxe look good, you should put the yellow outline around the others too. Andorra's Coat of Arms would probably be different too, assuming it's just a normal province and no longer got it's weird two heads of state setup.

I tried the yellow outline around the others and I liked how it looked, so I'm changing that. The shades of the symbols' backgrounds, they have a significance that gets lost if I alter them, and the yellow in them is sligthly darker to create a contrast that avoids confusion. As for Andorra's CoA, it represent historical feudal lords that ruled over the area, two of them not being present anymore IOTL, so as a symbol based on a historical account, I guess it serves just as well.
 
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And here's a flag for the Rhineland settlement. It has the tri-color theme of the other Hudson flags, the stars as the logo of the company that founded it, and the colors I took inspiration from the otl Rhineland coat of arms

I think you should post the flags for this series on the thread itself, you're kinda spamming the thread with stuff for a scenario you never explained. :eek:
 
I think you should post the flags for this series on the thread itself, you're kinda spamming the thread with stuff for a scenario you never explained. :eek:

Hmm, perhaps, but I'd venture everyone knows what Darwinia is. It is pretty (im)famous. That and I explained toward the beginning. Also, this is a point I should have made clear, if anyone would like to use any of the dud flags I have made you are free to do so no questions asked, they are open source, or whatever you want to call it. So have at it to your hearts contents, I look forward to see what wonders they'll inspire
 
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