Encomium Philippae – A Kalmar Union Timeline

[King of Danes]

Which faction are you supporting. Always yorkist for me

I would argue that the Yorkists had the better claim and Richard, Duke of York was for sure a better ruler than Henry VI or the Beauforts, but in the end I will always support Henry VII and Liz of York

 

[eliamartin65]

Henry VI

I agree on the OTL one but my ALT Henry might prove you wrong once he comes of age.

 

[Dragonboy]

I would argue that the Yorkists had the better claim and Richard, Duke of York was for sure a better ruler than Henry VI or the Beauforts, but in the end I will always support Henry VII and Liz of York

I support them only if poor edward v and richard duke of york are both dead.

 

[BlueFlowwer]

Yes to both of those!

Well then that is at least one figure plot thread for me to play with.

Also an option if a Yorkist/Tudor/Beaufort wins and needs some Lancaster blood to shore up their claim

Could work for them.

At least his great-grandfather being Valdemar IV he might have had some flair for Diplomacy to pass along to his son as well as his own ability to wage war and rule so as not to just up and leave - which he can't.

True that. Plus he might be able to avert the absolute shitstorm that happened after Philippa's death.

So we're backkkkkkkkk

We are back!

 

[Dragonboy]

Well then that is at least one figure plot thread for me to play with.

YEP!

 

[Swede]

Love me a Kalmar Union timeline, and with a pod i don't remember seeing before? That's a follow.

Could Philippa's death at Vadstena add to the percieved holiness of the town/monastery? It sure feels like it. A beloved & pious queen went there to die will be the narrative people remember.

 

[arctic warrior]

Love me a Kalmar Union timeline, and with a pod i don't remember seeing before? That's a follow.

Could Philippa's death at Vadstena add to the percieved holiness of the town/monastery? It sure feels like it. A beloved & pious queen went there to die will be the narrative people remember.

Ehem, Philippa did die at Vadstena.

 

[BlueFlowwer]

Love me a Kalmar Union timeline, and with a pod i don't remember seeing before? That's a follow.

Thank you so much! And Philippa is underrated.

Could Philippa's death at Vadstena add to the percieved holiness of the town/monastery? It sure feels like it. A beloved & pious queen went there to die will be the narrative people remember.

Vadstena became at Philippas time the greatest spiritual center and biggest landowner in Sweden, so if her decendants continue to patronise it, it will no doubt continue to shine.

Ehem, Philippa did die at Vadstena.

True that.

 

[isabella]

Well, she would be the closest Lancastrian around, and unlike the Beauforts, she is of unquestionable legitimacy. However, her children would be the strongest carriers of the Lancastrian line after Henry VI and Westminster dies, so there are possibilities there in the future

They are foreigners meaning who nobody in England would look at them as candidates

 

[BlueFlowwer]

They are foreigners meaning who nobody in England would look at them as candidates

Not as candidates no, but they could certainly bring an alliance and Lancaster blood to a future marriage.

 

[isabella]

Not as candidates no, but they could certainly bring an alliance and Lancaster blood to a future marriage.

Yes, another option to add to the OTL Burgundian, Portuguese and Castilian… that is always good

 

[King of Danes]

Yes, another option to add to the OTL Burgundian, Portuguese and Castilian… that is always good

Philippa’s line would be even better. She is descended from Henry IV unlike the others who are “only” descendants of John of Gaunt

 

[BlueFlowwer]

Yes, another option to add to the OTL Burgundian, Portuguese and Castilian… that is always good

True that, England will have more options to wed into.

Philippa’s line would be even better. She is descended from Henry IV unlike the others who are “only” descendants of John of Gaunt

The mainline of Henry IV after Henry VI will be the Danish ones.