where is that picture from?French during Revolution: Calm.
French seeing Templars landing in Marselle: PANIK.
Templars: ROUND TWO DEMONSPAWN FROGEATER.
Everybody gangsta until the sky start screaming Roman Aeterna and start raining Elysians airborne troops.
Elysium..., a Roman America TL
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Yea in concept but not in practicality I would see this to apply to non Italian chatolic land where the chatolicism is the key to the living such as Ireland or in the Balkans .
But France?
At this point french nationhood is very well developed I could see a development of fanatism toward non chatolics but to an extent that they choose to become a theocracy with a foreign monarch wtf I could see this happening in medieval times not now.
Plus the discourse that chatolicism is panicking three centuries after the development of Protestantism is a little bullshit.
The overpopulation is true but only a little,
Before modernity and the post Napoleon era we didn't have massive population exchanges.
And if you think about it ,it mostly affected protestant radicals .
That they don't have resources from Asia is bullshit they still are the masters of the Indian trade; the only nation helped are Japan or the Marathas and they don't really interfere in trade, instead we have an open Japan so noes.
Plus they have Africa .
I see papacy help the collapse of the monarchy and create a puppet government but annexation? Ahaha in twelve years we will have revolution ,the true revolution but in Mexico style where they shots parish and co.
I think that the author want to go in a certain direction but this is too much.
It's like the chatolic are treated as Arabs in regards to religion ,homogeneity of thought ,fanatics.
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Europe is in Medieval Times
However with napoleonic technology
So ya, if you could see it happening then it certainly is happening now
Nope Europe is not in a medieval mindset , they passed centuries ago that mindset , now is the 1800s but they are socially behind so they are beginning 1700s mindset with the big monarchy get the idea of absolutism plus imperialism but there is a pragmatic enlightened monarch ideology not a fanatic theocracy .
I mean England holds much of northern France, Sweden holds much of northern Germania, and the HRE has fallen. Plus the Knights Templar have been restored TTL by the church. The papacy really hasn’t advanced past the medieval mindset because sure Europe has colonies but existential threats to the church are far more numerous. So you have a politically motivated papacy that has Napoleon with it (unless I misunderstood that). To me this is not a stretch at all. Plus this is a timeline where the Reformation and Protestantism form completely differently than our world.
PW has been very clear that the Marathas unified ALL of India and surrounding territories and are an Elysian vassal along with Japan. There will be no revolution in Mexico because ALL of Mexico has been conquered by the Elysians along with ALL of the Americas. Catholics are treated like Arabs by the Elysians TTL, they are THE existential threat for the church. Protestant nations do no accept the Pope’s authority and as a result do trade with the Elysians. It is a completely different world and Europe TTL compared to ours
1. England occupy Northern France during the war but was expelled for military reasons and heavy support of the catholic volunteers and the good command of Napoleon under Papacy flag.
2. Sweden unify all Scandinavia (Norway, Denmark and Sweden(Finland is swedish territory)) and under the command of Charles XII AKA "Carolus Rex" take the coasts of Baltic Sea and serve like "champion of Protestants" in the same way Spain was the shield of catholism.
3. The Reformation and Protestantism mostly form in the same way expect the Not!American question.
Marathas control mostly all India except Bengal who is a fustercluck of european trade post and colonies. But NOT ARE VASSAL of ELYSIUM. They are friends in the same way can be other countries. Elysium don't have interest in conquer Asia because its very different even to Europe, in any case can be friends. And mostly all nations can trade with Elysians, they have trade outposts named Emporiae in every important coast city of Europe.
The papacy basically join France to the Papal States. the various regional components retained their identity under papal rule. The pope was represented in each province by a governor, who bore one of a number of titles. These included "papal legate", as in the former principality of Benevento, or at Bologna, in Romagna, and the March of Ancona; and "papal delegate", as in the former duchy of Pontecorvo and in the Campagne and Maritime Province. Other titles like "Papal Vicar", "Vicar General", and also several titles of nobility, such as "count" or even "prince" were used.
So not a theocracy ok still strange and difficult but a confederation is possible mmmm.
So a powergrab and not for a religious motivation.
A confederation of states and territories all nominally governed by the Pope from Rome but with some autonomy. France would be taken because an attack on a French Catholic church during a revolution would be seen as an attack on the same religion and therefore the Pope would give permission to send forces to support the revolutionaries who would end up accepting to be under the authority of the Pope under him. pretext: attack me and you will attack him.
Chapter 52 Caesar Tiberius Sertorius Dives 2580 AUC / 1827 AD - 2612 AUC / 1858 AD
Imperator Augustus Caesar Tiberius Sertorius Dives
A chemist and businessman named Titus Cornelius invented Coca-Cola, so called because of the combination of cola nuts and Cocaine. Coca-Cola soon became popular when the Emperor appeared drinking it in a session of the Senate. On the other hand, the Emperor opened the Imperial food markets to export food to other nations. The first buyers of food came from England and the Iberian Kingdom together with the Papal States. Although the purchase of "pagan meat" was frowned upon by Catholic countries, in England it would help as some shipments were unloaded in Ireland, which helped prevent major famines. Such trade did nothing but increase the Imperial coffers which were destined to modernize the Imperial economy into a Keynesian economic policy.
Salomon would return to Austria where he would advertise using an altered photograph showing a river full of gold, when in fact it was a river in Iberian Africa that had been filled with bronze. Salomon would get his family to sponsor the expedition, achieving a fleet of 12 ships and around 1558 people (1000 Colonists, 17 children, 211 mercenary-guards, 30 women and around 300 officers and others). Salomon would name the settlement after his hometown as Neu-Frankfurt. (OTL: Sydney) The settlement was built following the models of Iberian colonial cities, but soon, a port began to be built from which to disembark a greater tonnage. Unfortunately or fortunately, between 1800-1810, 10,000 people would arrive annually, all motivated by the Rothschilds who would send qualified personnel to the colony while the Monarchy would send convicts and women convicts. This would only damage relations with the natives who would be enslaved.
Australia would industrialize based on aboriginal slave labor while the rest of the northern islands were colonized by the Iberian Kingdom. By 1815, Australia would have a population of 150,000 white Europeans and three times as many slaves, which was declining due to inhumane methods of slavery and labor in harsh living conditions. But a notable feature was the enormous amount of Jewish population that produced what was called the Aliyah to a land where the Jews were not persecuted or imprisoned in Ghettos. The Rothschilds as an Ashkenazi Jewish family would use their connection to Judaism to further propel the immigration of entire Jewish clans to the very point that Australia was indirectly called "New Jerusalem" or "Neu-Judäa" by German-speakers. The arrival of Jewish settlers only increased tensions between the settlers and natives until Salomon Mayer von Rothschild would make the Jericho proclamation where he would authorize the enslavement of the aborigines without reprisals.
This fact did nothing but give rise to a dark period that was strongly hidden by the Rothschild agents. But the wealth of Australia would not pass for the eyes of Iberia. Iberia had as a stronghold in Asia the Philippine archipelago. Which had trade networks that linked Japan, China, India, Oceania with the rest of the Iberian Kingdom. Networks that were maintained by the Royal Philippine Company, promoted mainly by Basque businessmen who had a monopoly on the trade industry by royal decree. Since the conquest of the Philippines, numerous cities and urban centers were founded in the archipelago, much infrastructure was created, various crops and livestock were introduced. Trade flourished. The missionaries Christianized the majority of the population and founded schools, universities and hospitals throughout the islands. The Philippines contributed to the Iberian Empire in personnel for naval infantry and sailors although massive numbers of slaves from Bengal and South India were imported by native nobles, Iberian administrators and Chinese entrepreneurs.
Clashes between Austrian-Australians and Iberians occurred in 1827 when an Iberian named Jaime Esquiva refused to pay a tax illegally inflated by Austrian officials. Government officials seized his ship and attempted to auction it to pay the tax, but a hundred armed Iberians interrupted the auction, and recovered the ship after looting the port. The first shots of the war were fired as this group fought against Rothschild mercenary troops that were sent after them. The news of the conflict reached Madrid a week later, who demanded answers from Vienna, who claimed to have no information except that an Iberian had refused to pay port customs and had attacked several colonial officials and looted the port's warehouses. Such a response made the King of Spain, Ferdinand VII, decide to seize the colony from Australia and Neuseeland. Due to this, he sent Field Marshal Nazario Eguía y Sáez de Buruaga and Admiral Cosme Damián Churruca y Elorza with a fleet and army.
When the Iberian fleet approached Australia, it quickly took the ports of Neu-Frankfurt, Neu-Stuttgart (OTL: Perth), Neu-Graz (OTL: Adalaida), Neu-Soizbuag (OTL: Melbourne), Neu-München (OTL :Brisbane), landing several Divisions making a total of 40,000 troops including several battalions of Huntsmen and cavalry. The effectiveness of the landings came about as the Australians retreated into the interior of the country to the town of Rothschild (OTL:Alice Springs), a remote settlement that was built as a retreat for the Rothschild family in Australia that had become a last bastion or redoubt when the threat of invasion arose. As a possible stronghold, Rothschild had a number of advantages: it is situated roughly in the geographical center of Australia, The surrounding region is known as Central Australia, or the Red Centre, an arid environment consisting of several deserts. Temperatures in Rothschild can vary, with an average summer high of 96.1 °F (35.6 °C) and an average winter low of 41.2 °F (5.1 °C).
The evacuation of the coast attracted a large number of civilians, including officials and many of the territory's government records. Rothschild became the Austrian capital of Australia during the war. Apart from that, a large number of military personnel and their heavy equipment were quickly transferred to Rothschild. The Iberian invasion of Australia took on religious significance to the point of comparing
The ability of the Aussies to adapt and become first-rate gunners proved them to be a versatile adversary for the Iberian Army, while in preparation for hostilities, Rothschild had acquired over a hundred field guns from Krupp Works, all fired by horses and scattered among the various combat groups and several Polhammers mounted on heavy armored wagons that could form Wagenburg (wagon fort/fortress). This tactic was vital when an Iberian regiment of a thousand soldiers was decimated by a hundred fighters who with the power of fire and with their wagons in fort formation and some effective tactics, the Australians fought against the Iberians. The war lasted three years until finally the Rothschild family intervened through a campaign of piracy that made the war too costly and peace was signed with Austria and the Rothschild family of Austria received the hereditary title of "Freiherr" (Baron) from Australia.
Emperor Dives's reign was marked by the birth of a political movement that became popular with a minority of politicians. This movement received the name of Aurea Reparatio Imperii Romanorum (Golden Restoration of the Empire of the Romans) and focused on the desire to restore the Roman Empire through the reconquest of Europe. The Restitutionists claimed that Elysium was the heir to ancient Rome and the legacy of it and thus had a duty to restore the empire. At the same time they promoted a cultural identity of Romanitas ("Roman-ness"). Which together with the development of lengths of celluloid photographic film and the invention of motion picture cameras, which could photograph a rapid sequence of images with a single lens, made it possible to capture and store the action on a single compact reel of film. that the Aurea Reparatio Imperii Romanorum movement financed the creation of different cinematographic societies within the Empire dedicated to propaganda, his greatest film during the reign of Dives would be "Cincinnatus".
The feeling of restoring the Roman Empire was an omnipresent feeling in Elysium, it was similar to the Empire of Charlemagne in France or the Byzantine Empire for the Orthodox Christian Greek minorities, even Al-Andalus for the Muslim Moroccans in the Viceroyalty of Morocco. For this reason the Emperor did not oppose the idea of censoring "Roman nationalism" but warned the Restitutionists that any attempt to break imperial stability or even foment war through trickery or deception would meet with his wrath. In view of the possibility of groups fighting against the Imperial authority, the Emperor authorized the creation of a body in order to investigate and control political and ideological groups that could alter public order, this body was called Arcanus and was in inside the Praetorian Guard.
The film industry had as its main bases Mons Regius (OTL: Montreal), Faventia (OTL: Los Angeles), Colonia Fabia (OTL: La Havanna), Polis Sarmatiae (OTL: Rio de Janeiro) and finally Civis Argentius (OTL: Buenos Aires). Each "Headquarter" was controlled by one of the five major cinematographic companies collectively called "Quinque Magnum" (the big five): Imperialis Image , Primus Image , Warner Frater., Canis Infans Image , and Argentius Image . The location of each of these "studios" was as follows:
- Imperialis Image (Mons Regius)
- Primus Image (Faventia)
- Snivellus Frater Societas (Colonia Fabia)
- Canis Infans Image (Polis Sarmatiae)
- Argentius Image (Civis Argentius)
The liberated slaves (liberi) of Ethiopian origin, ended up owning large farmlands dedicated to sugar. From there the Sarmatiae Saccharum Corporatium was born, a company dedicated to the production, sale and distribution of everything related to sugar, it would soon come to control vast territories and transport networks in the Empire, being the first of the so-called Megacorporatium, to the point that it would have its own mercenary military and naval force, to the point that they would compete with the Maratha Empire in the sugar trade.
One of the greatest innovations in the military field would be the Testuda Industria program. The Testuda Industria military program was created with the aim of modernizing the testudos by equipping them with several elements: An electrical transmission system that will be connected to a twelve-cylinder piston engine common among motorized racing boats popular in the Amazon, while this V12 engine would be water cooled that provided 400 hp. A light artillery piece in the front and rear, as well as several polybolum, and reach a maximum speed of at least 12 kilometers per hour along with a minimum of 15 mm of armor. The project to design and build the first Testuda Industria was under the direction of Appius Bruttius Farus, one of Elysium's foremost autocinetum designers. Unfortunately, the Emperor would not live to see his project completed nor the Testuda Industria deployed in combat.
So we are arriving at the end of the story , I think it will end badly this revanchism but ok, author can you slow down a little to give more details to flesh out clearly how this world changed , how the political thought changed can you not write a chapter for emperor because it's little dry in the details .
Sorry for asking this but I think it would help the story.
For example the theory of balance of powers don't exist
Sorry for asking this but I think it would help the story.
For example the theory of balance of powers don't exist
Interlude: State of the World 1860.
Although from the outside, it seemed that Elysium possessed a superior industrial capacity compared to Europe and the rest of the Euraphrasia supercontinent. The truth is that they had not stood idly by watching Elysium improve and increase its power. Most of the powers such as Scandinavia, Iberia, Ottomans and Russia together with England focused on trying to copy the technologies of Elysium, be it the smuggling of material to learn its use until the purchase of even high-priced material. Japan and the Maratha Empire of India lead this race thanks to their relationship with Elysium to the point that many young people manage to travel to the Empire to learn and later use the knowledge in a rapid industrialization and modernization. Furthermore, industrialization and modernization went hand in hand with the development of a national rail system and communications. Europe for example, seeing how countries considered technologically backward, modernized at such speed, applied the same.
Top priority was given to the growth of a self-sufficient economy and modernization, which produced economic growth that at the same time improved the standard of living, which expanded educational opportunities. Workers with higher education were absorbed into the rapidly growing industrial and commercial sectors, and the urban population increased. However, despite immense economic growth, the standard of living for the city's workers and farmers remained low. Workers worked at low wages to increase price competitiveness among industrialists even as governments tried to improve the quality of rural life, modernize rural and urban societies. Although the aristocratic nobility and the Church continued to exercise some control in countries like Iberia, the German states, the Ottoman Empire and especially in Imperial Russia who in a hybrid, the nobles controlled the industry.
Despite industrialization and modernization, the difference in armies was notable: the Ottoman and Russian military organization was still inferior to that of the armies of other European states despite Elysium's logistical support. The officer corps was poorly organized or incompetent and corrupt, and almost all recruits were illiterate and even relied on recruiting mercenary and irregular units, notorious for their indiscipline and more interested in looting than fighting. The superior officers, of aristocratic origin, had little regard for this army of peasants, and did not hesitate to sacrifice entire regiments for a victory that would bring them promotion. Corporal punishment was common as a penalty for the slightest infraction, and even colonels could be humiliated in front of the regiment. Even more so than in the English Army, there was a big difference between the luxurious life of senior officers, paid for by rampant corruption, and that of rank-and-file soldiers, who often waited unsuccessfully for months at a time.
Common corporal punishment impressed the Elysian merchants, accustomed to a greater social mix within the Armed Forces; a veteran merchant who served as a Centurion commented that the British system reminded him of that of the Republic during the Punic Wars, and "that in England a soldier is but a slave to the nobility". The most common weaponry in countries such as Scandinavia, England, France even Russia and the Ottoman Empire was mostly rifled muskets or rifles while weapons such as repeating rifles and rapid fire weapons were issued to "elite" units such as the Imperial Guard. Russian, Ottoman Janissaries, Grenadiers. While Hand cranked machine guns such as the Scandinavian Polhammers or English Gardner guns even the Papal machine guns MAS Canon-Mitrailleur, a version of the Polhammer was common among veteran artillery units.
China, on the other hand, ruled by the Qing Dynasty, had been involved in a political movement called the Self-Strengthening Movement, a series of radical institutional reforms resulting from the resentment of the defeat in Taiwan against the Japanese. Local Han Chinese officials, supported by the Daoguang Emperor, established Westernized armies to wage war against the rebels while also initiating efforts to import Western military technology and translate Western scientific knowledge. Establishing successful arsenals, schools and ammunition factories, shipping lines, telegraph and railways. Qing China made substantial progress in promoting the creation of government-supervised commercial enterprises that gave way to industrial projects from a huge diversity of fields in which they embarked, involving coal and iron mining, steel production, textile manufacturing, telegraphy, steamships, railways, and modern banking.
The Daoguang Emperor managed to get up to 40 Divisions of 12,500 men each in 1840, making a total of 500,000 soldiers, making this army the best military forces that the Qing dynasty could deploy. Divisions were organized into infantry, artillery, cavalry, and auxiliary troops, plus maintenance and engineering, while Army training instructors were mostly Elysian and Maratha. Daoguang oversaw the reform of Qing military institutions, founding the Baoding Military Academy, along with several other military schools and officer training academies, and creating the Commission for the Reorganization of the Army. The Peking Field Army became the model upon which the military forces of other Imperial provinces should be standardized. The view of foreign observers was that the Army loyal to the Emperor was the largest, best-equipped, and best-trained military force in China at the time.
Top priority was given to the growth of a self-sufficient economy and modernization, which produced economic growth that at the same time improved the standard of living, which expanded educational opportunities. Workers with higher education were absorbed into the rapidly growing industrial and commercial sectors, and the urban population increased. However, despite immense economic growth, the standard of living for the city's workers and farmers remained low. Workers worked at low wages to increase price competitiveness among industrialists even as governments tried to improve the quality of rural life, modernize rural and urban societies. Although the aristocratic nobility and the Church continued to exercise some control in countries like Iberia, the German states, the Ottoman Empire and especially in Imperial Russia who in a hybrid, the nobles controlled the industry.
Despite industrialization and modernization, the difference in armies was notable: the Ottoman and Russian military organization was still inferior to that of the armies of other European states despite Elysium's logistical support. The officer corps was poorly organized or incompetent and corrupt, and almost all recruits were illiterate and even relied on recruiting mercenary and irregular units, notorious for their indiscipline and more interested in looting than fighting. The superior officers, of aristocratic origin, had little regard for this army of peasants, and did not hesitate to sacrifice entire regiments for a victory that would bring them promotion. Corporal punishment was common as a penalty for the slightest infraction, and even colonels could be humiliated in front of the regiment. Even more so than in the English Army, there was a big difference between the luxurious life of senior officers, paid for by rampant corruption, and that of rank-and-file soldiers, who often waited unsuccessfully for months at a time.
Common corporal punishment impressed the Elysian merchants, accustomed to a greater social mix within the Armed Forces; a veteran merchant who served as a Centurion commented that the British system reminded him of that of the Republic during the Punic Wars, and "that in England a soldier is but a slave to the nobility". The most common weaponry in countries such as Scandinavia, England, France even Russia and the Ottoman Empire was mostly rifled muskets or rifles while weapons such as repeating rifles and rapid fire weapons were issued to "elite" units such as the Imperial Guard. Russian, Ottoman Janissaries, Grenadiers. While Hand cranked machine guns such as the Scandinavian Polhammers or English Gardner guns even the Papal machine guns MAS Canon-Mitrailleur, a version of the Polhammer was common among veteran artillery units.
China, on the other hand, ruled by the Qing Dynasty, had been involved in a political movement called the Self-Strengthening Movement, a series of radical institutional reforms resulting from the resentment of the defeat in Taiwan against the Japanese. Local Han Chinese officials, supported by the Daoguang Emperor, established Westernized armies to wage war against the rebels while also initiating efforts to import Western military technology and translate Western scientific knowledge. Establishing successful arsenals, schools and ammunition factories, shipping lines, telegraph and railways. Qing China made substantial progress in promoting the creation of government-supervised commercial enterprises that gave way to industrial projects from a huge diversity of fields in which they embarked, involving coal and iron mining, steel production, textile manufacturing, telegraphy, steamships, railways, and modern banking.
The Daoguang Emperor managed to get up to 40 Divisions of 12,500 men each in 1840, making a total of 500,000 soldiers, making this army the best military forces that the Qing dynasty could deploy. Divisions were organized into infantry, artillery, cavalry, and auxiliary troops, plus maintenance and engineering, while Army training instructors were mostly Elysian and Maratha. Daoguang oversaw the reform of Qing military institutions, founding the Baoding Military Academy, along with several other military schools and officer training academies, and creating the Commission for the Reorganization of the Army. The Peking Field Army became the model upon which the military forces of other Imperial provinces should be standardized. The view of foreign observers was that the Army loyal to the Emperor was the largest, best-equipped, and best-trained military force in China at the time.
You mean like a ISOT or some weird thing like The Man of the High Castle or Gate ?