DBWI-Make US look like this

How is Japan a major power if it lost Corea? How did they lose that one war with...I can't remember. My knowledge of 19th century Asian politics is not that good....

Maybe ITTL Korea is a puppet state that the Emperor just never got around to annexing. The Phillippines are like that IOTL, so it's possible.
 
Looks like this TL made DC a state instead of just giving all the land back to Maryland and Virginia. But why's it only mention Washington? Didn't the District include Alexandria, Arlington, and Bethesda back in the day?

I'm guessing the Capital is still there rather than Philadelphia like it is now. Remember, the only major victory for the British in the war of 1812 was sacking Washington. After that, and the annexation of Canada, we moved the capital to Philadelphia where it remains today.
 
Anyone here wondering what the hell's going on in China? Why is it Pink and only Taiwan is the correct color..... Russia lost/sold Alaska but still has the Caucasus? :confused:

Well, in IOTL, Russia never did get to buy all of Alaska............'Seward's Folly', wasn't such a folly after all. ;)

OOC: Wow, 100 replies already............this is gonna be interesting. LOL.
 
I find it puzzling how the Finns out of all people would be independent. They are not exactly the most determined of peoples IOTL.

OOC: What is the PoD?
 
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Laughs...perhaps we should send him to that Pink nation in China....

I just found out, that pink color is supposed to be communist China. Just like there is a Red for Communist Russia ect. I wonder how that happened.... If the Commies did not take Russia, the most obvious candidate in TTL, then how did they take China and lave a rump republican government in Taiwan.... Communism never even took place in any nations IOTL and remains a form of government that has never been experimented with so I wonder how things are going in China for this TL..... Any guesses?


Given that they would have had to go through a bloody civil war to get there, I'd put them at maybe 20th Strongest Power. EDIT: And I'd assume the other regional power is Japan. Someone's gotta be propping up that Republican Chinese remnant, and the Japanese are the logical choice.

I think this is very interesting scenario. If I have understood right anything about socialism, wouldn't China be one of the most democratic societies on the Earth? I'm not just sure how well it would work in a nation as big as China. And as Polish Eagle noted, it's likely that Taiwan is propped by Japanese. Maybe some sort of dictatorship a la Action Francaise?
 
Well, in IOTL, Russia never did get to buy all of Alaska............'Seward's Folly', wasn't such a folly after all. ;)

OOC: Wow, 100 replies already............this is gonna be interesting. LOL.

'Seward's Folly' never happened though. We rejected Russia's offer to buy that Godforsaken piece of ice. The Russians just don't know what to do with it with the Inuit insurgency and all.
 
I find it puzzling how the Finns out of all people would be independent. They are not exactly the most determined of peoples IOTL.

OOC: What is the PoD?

The Fins are happy with their Swedish rulers.

OOC: The first pod is the Great Northern War in which Sweden won. Another important pod is that We won the war of 1812, annexed Canada and made Quebec a puppet state. However, we also lost the Mexican-American War of 1848 so Mexico still has Cali and other states. There are other major pods as well but if you read back, you'll see them. :)
 
I'm guessing the Capital is still there rather than Philadelphia like it is now. Remember, the only major victory for the British in the war of 1812 was sacking Washington. After that, and the annexation of Canada, we moved the capital to Philadelphia where it remains today.
Well, sure, but why make it a state? It's not like Philadelphia, is it's own state or anything. Oh well, hopefully that's addressed sensibly in TTL.
Anyway, I can't believe no one's said anything about those two ENORMOUS countries in South America and Nova Hollanda (( OTL Australia)) The one in South America looks like its a wank of one of the Portuguese nations of OTL, probably either Amazonia or Brasil. But I can't even guess what's going on in Nova Hollanda, it looks like it was never split up between the Germans and English or something, but I couldn't guess without knowing more about it. And as 1.36 pointed out earlier, Australia ((OTL New Zealand)) is not colored in at all, so whatever's going on down in the southern hemisphere is some kind of ASB.
 
Well, sure, but why make it a state? It's not like Philadelphia, is it's own state or anything. Oh well, hopefully that's addressed sensibly in TTL.
Anyway, I can't believe no one's said anything about those two ENORMOUS countries in South America and Nova Hollanda (( OTL Australia)) The one in South America looks like its a wank of one of the Portuguese nations of OTL, probably either Amazonia or Brasil. But I can't even guess what's going on in Nova Hollanda, it looks like it was never split up between the Germans and English or something, but I couldn't guess without knowing more about it. And as 1.36 pointed out earlier, Australia ((OTL New Zealand)) is not colored in at all, so whatever's going on down in the southern hemisphere is some kind of ASB.

If I recall on page 1. We got Australia (also known as new Zealand) from the British. I think we bought it a while ago....
 
Also, what the hell interest does the USA have in Mesopotamia, of all places?! The place is a burned-out shithole that burned off all its oil decades ago. (OOC: If anyone else posted about Iraq, I'll retract that statement)
 
Also, what the hell interest does the USA have in Mesopotamia, of all places?! The place is a burned-out shithole that burned off all its oil decades ago. (OOC: If anyone else posted about Iraq, I'll retract that statement)

I said the same thing up above. The Ottomans have it but only use it for an outlet to the Persian Gulf. Not much is there really. We are wasting our troops on that place. I'd rather have them in one of those funky African nations preserving peace. Good knows what wars have taken place there....
 
Perhaps the British and Americans are at least friendly ITTL and have decided to take over a Mesopotamia that hasn't burnt up all its oil. This TL is in need of some colonies.
 
But still, Mesopotamia? There are so many easier places to take. They can get through the Suez and take over that strange Arabian kingdom that I really can't see existing on its own. And how the hell do you get a US that's friendly with the British?
 
But still, Mesopotamia? There are so many easier places to take. They can get through the Suez and take over that strange Arabian kingdom that I really can't see existing on its own. And how the hell do you get a US that's friendly with the British?

This would be an awesome but ASB TL! :cool:
 
But still, Mesopotamia? There are so many easier places to take. They can get through the Suez and take over that strange Arabian kingdom that I really can't see existing on its own. And how the hell do you get a US that's friendly with the British?

Start with the Second Anglo-American War then butterfly away the other Wars that followed it.
 
OOC: Here is a map of North America.

North America.PNG
 
'Seward's Folly' never happened though. We rejected Russia's offer to buy that Godforsaken piece of ice. The Russians just don't know what to do with it with the Inuit insurgency and all.

In your universe, maybe............but you and I come from different TLs, my friend. ;)

P.S. I like the map you put describing your TL's North America{Observations about by universe will be in parentheses}.

Questions + Comments about your timeline:

1. How did Kansas and Nebraska get switched?
2. How did OTL's pre-1877 Alberta become Colombia, and get switched with pre-1870 Sasketchewan?{And why is pre-1877 Manitoba called 'Winnepeg'?}
3. Why did Virginia stay together as one state?
4. Ontario is still in one piece and part of ONE country? Wow.
5. Why is there no Nova Acadia, and how did Nova Scotia become a state?
6. Why is Maine still a part of Mass.?
7. What was the point of Quebec seceding without Montreal or Quebec City? Or Sainte-Marie, for that matter?
8. How did Cuba get annexed?
9. Why in the heck is Alaska still Russian?!?!?
10. Who owns Hawaii?

And finally................

11. Do you have any statistics on the states, major cities, etc.?
 
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Start with the Second Anglo-American War then butterfly away the other Wars that followed it.

Yeah but even so after not only the American Revolution and the War of 1812 there was no way we would ever ally with Britain. All that whole Second Anglo-American War did was make sure that when Germany/Russia went to war with Austria/France/Britain during the Great War that we wouldn't stay neutral like the Ottomans did. Surely there would be no way we would ever side with Britain and even worse why would we side with France of all countries?
 
OOC: You forgot Little Ireland, which is probably on Vancouver Island or the peninsula on Washington.
OOC: Also Mexico owns Santo Domingo and Guatemala (a little dot of it can be seen on your map) as Mexico and the US partitioned Central America (the US got Panama and maybe Costa Rica or Nicaragua, Mexico the rest.) And no state would be called Alberta btw. Just sayin'
Other than that it's quite fantastic, really.
 
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