DBWI: ATL Challenge, make capitalism work
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Fabilius said:Ah... Yes the great south american capitalist empire.
You do realise that it´s only kept around because the Soviets want to keep an example existing of the world as it used to be.
And it's doing a damned good job at showing how much better things were too
Aside from which, you forgot Peru, Colombia, Sikkim, Costa Rica, Norway (okay, they're 'social democrats' but not communists), and about a half a dozen others.
There's a strong case for saying capitalism is alive and well at the moment.
In Russia.
All the state controls on prices of food, fuel, travel, housing costs etc have gone. The state industries have either been stolen or privatised or both. You can buy a car, but you better put dollars down, cash on the barrelhead. And if you want title deeds for that tasty apartment you bought in St Petersburg, go whistle. You better hire an armed guard instead.
It's what I call a "Wild West" society, because the Wild West was the prime example and that lasted more than 50 years. I suppose you could say certain parts of Africa and the Far East are in the same condition. Every man for himself and the Devil take the hindmost.
The trouble is, certain of you human units want to take care of their families and, by extension, the society in which they live, dang them. The moment a spade digs the first shovelfull for mains drainage, or a new community hospital, this pristine condition called capitalism is starting to disappear.
In Russia.
All the state controls on prices of food, fuel, travel, housing costs etc have gone. The state industries have either been stolen or privatised or both. You can buy a car, but you better put dollars down, cash on the barrelhead. And if you want title deeds for that tasty apartment you bought in St Petersburg, go whistle. You better hire an armed guard instead.
It's what I call a "Wild West" society, because the Wild West was the prime example and that lasted more than 50 years. I suppose you could say certain parts of Africa and the Far East are in the same condition. Every man for himself and the Devil take the hindmost.
The trouble is, certain of you human units want to take care of their families and, by extension, the society in which they live, dang them. The moment a spade digs the first shovelfull for mains drainage, or a new community hospital, this pristine condition called capitalism is starting to disappear.
How could one have left the Free Republic of Kodiak Island off of this list? Surely, it is one of the wealthiest capitalist societies.danielb1 said:And it's doing a damned good job at showing how much better things were too
Aside from which, you forgot Peru, Colombia, Sikkim, Costa Rica, Norway (okay, they're 'social democrats' but not communists), and about a half a dozen others.
Here's A Scary Thought...
One way capitalism could have escaped its demise is the collapse or prevention of the "Pact of Steel" between Stalin and Hitler in 1938. In this scenario, try to imagine a world where in economies giuded by the state "bleed each other" in a scenario much like the Great War of 1914-1918. If we are to look at the historical record (e.g. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion), maybe a Jewish/Zionist conspiracy by the likes of radicals like Chamberlain, Garner, and Petain could have caused this betrayal....
One way capitalism could have escaped its demise is the collapse or prevention of the "Pact of Steel" between Stalin and Hitler in 1938. In this scenario, try to imagine a world where in economies giuded by the state "bleed each other" in a scenario much like the Great War of 1914-1918. If we are to look at the historical record (e.g. The Protocols of the Elders of Zion), maybe a Jewish/Zionist conspiracy by the likes of radicals like Chamberlain, Garner, and Petain could have caused this betrayal....
Burton K Wheeler
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Comrades! When considering the glorious triumph of socialism across the globe, we must remember the sacrifices made by the North American People's Counter-Revolutionary Investigation Bureau after the arrival of our Soviet comrades to destroy capitalism in the land.
Comrade Agent David Straha: Instrumental in stopping the trade in illicit narcotics which had been used by the capitalist pigs to dull the senses of the working class and prevent revolution.
Comrade Agent Matthew Quinn: Responsible for uncovering and sending to reeducation camps thousands of so-called "evangelical" counter-revolutionaries.
Comrade Agent Lee Miracle: Led the door-to-door searches which recovered and destroyed nearly all illegally held weapons in the Michigan area.
Comrade Agent Bruno Lombardi: Comrade Lombardi's vigorous enforcement of laws against bourgeois degenerate behavior in Ontario helped give rise to that district's reputation as one of the shining examples of new Socialist morals.
Comrade Agent David Straha: Instrumental in stopping the trade in illicit narcotics which had been used by the capitalist pigs to dull the senses of the working class and prevent revolution.
Comrade Agent Matthew Quinn: Responsible for uncovering and sending to reeducation camps thousands of so-called "evangelical" counter-revolutionaries.
Comrade Agent Lee Miracle: Led the door-to-door searches which recovered and destroyed nearly all illegally held weapons in the Michigan area.
Comrade Agent Bruno Lombardi: Comrade Lombardi's vigorous enforcement of laws against bourgeois degenerate behavior in Ontario helped give rise to that district's reputation as one of the shining examples of new Socialist morals.
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Pah! We of Omicron Persei Eight despise you human units talk of revolutions and secret polices.
Listen and learn, before you die. We have been seeking our spiritual heirs throughout known space. We thought we had them with the Vikings but they became interested in Kings and Courts of Law. Of what use are Law Courts, save to divide the spoils?
Then we found the Pirates, who dominated the area of salt you call the Caribbean for a hundred of your years and some say caused the fall of your pathetic Spanish Empire.
True, these Pirates had the motto "Share and share alike" but that was to stop their shipmates murdering them as they slept. Their true lust was for gold-pressed latium and female slaves (or whatever the local equivalent was.) So it is in our own giant star cruisers.
We now look for the descendents of those seekers-after-wealth but it is clear, from your prattle of governments and police, that you carbon-based human units are not they. You will be eliminated when we seize your wretched planet to serve us as a base for our raidings on the Western Spiral Arm of the Galaxy. The peasants and priests of Altair Four shall wail with Terror at our Coming.
Listen and learn, before you die. We have been seeking our spiritual heirs throughout known space. We thought we had them with the Vikings but they became interested in Kings and Courts of Law. Of what use are Law Courts, save to divide the spoils?
Then we found the Pirates, who dominated the area of salt you call the Caribbean for a hundred of your years and some say caused the fall of your pathetic Spanish Empire.
True, these Pirates had the motto "Share and share alike" but that was to stop their shipmates murdering them as they slept. Their true lust was for gold-pressed latium and female slaves (or whatever the local equivalent was.) So it is in our own giant star cruisers.
We now look for the descendents of those seekers-after-wealth but it is clear, from your prattle of governments and police, that you carbon-based human units are not they. You will be eliminated when we seize your wretched planet to serve us as a base for our raidings on the Western Spiral Arm of the Galaxy. The peasants and priests of Altair Four shall wail with Terror at our Coming.
HueyLong
Banned
Not possible. This should be in ASB.
While capitalism could have been prolonged, once the Red Flag flew over Paris and the cry of "Egalite!" rang true, it was fighting a losing battle. Societies were moving forward, and capitalism was the way back.
You couldn't sustain feudalism once capitalism started.
While capitalism could have been prolonged, once the Red Flag flew over Paris and the cry of "Egalite!" rang true, it was fighting a losing battle. Societies were moving forward, and capitalism was the way back.
You couldn't sustain feudalism once capitalism started.
Western pig-dogs! You will all be the first against the wall when the counter-revolution comes, when the hordes of the Sino Pan-Asia Unity sweep across the Great Eastern Sea, when we unleash the power of the very particles to drop upon your decrepit cities. Unionism is a far better philosophy than communism, far better than capitalism. If you are so great, why have you never built the tallest building in the world? Mankind's first arcology?
You, who reject state-progressives like Maxwell Jameson for class-clashers like Karl Marx. You, who scorn those who perfect the very concepts of organic statism like Hu Shi for barbarian revolutionaries like Lin Biao. You, who mock the State that transcends the vile capitalist-socialist paradigm dichotomy. You, who are unable to harness the basest of human behaviors- private enterprise- for the benefit of the centralized states. You claim you are upon a pinnacle of human society and at the end of history.
You know nothing. The Unity is coming towards you, Reddies. The Unity will free you. The Unity will unite you. The Unity is you.
You, who reject state-progressives like Maxwell Jameson for class-clashers like Karl Marx. You, who scorn those who perfect the very concepts of organic statism like Hu Shi for barbarian revolutionaries like Lin Biao. You, who mock the State that transcends the vile capitalist-socialist paradigm dichotomy. You, who are unable to harness the basest of human behaviors- private enterprise- for the benefit of the centralized states. You claim you are upon a pinnacle of human society and at the end of history.
You know nothing. The Unity is coming towards you, Reddies. The Unity will free you. The Unity will unite you. The Unity is you.
AHA! I live in Zion, in New Damascus! After the victory of 1960 and Zion's triumph over the Gentiles, we have lived in perfect harmony, working towards a totally Jewish future. Behold you pitiful Gentiles, what the future holds for you!
On the other hand, I've just graduated BETAR, and will be joining the army next September. I'm quite excited, and very happy.
On the other hand, I've just graduated BETAR, and will be joining the army next September. I'm quite excited, and very happy.
Strategos' Risk said:
I look and laugh. World's tallest building? You got there by enslaving thousands of proletariat workers. First arcology? Built for a bourgeoisie that is thousands upon thousands of times wealthier than the standard citizen. Private enterrpise is the bane of society. Whereas in the Marxist Republic of Florida, all citizens are equal.
The people of Asia will eventually rise up in arms against the oppresive upper class. You need to watch out and cover your own back. Then, a dictatorship of the masses shall return your pathetic Sino Pacific Pan-Asia unity to the mainstream.