Crisis in the Kremlin - Our 1982 USSR

If I were ever to make 2nd timeline, which one would you be most interested in?

  • 1. German Empire 1888

    Votes: 62 29.2%
  • 2. Russian Federation 1993

    Votes: 74 34.9%
  • 3. Red China 1949

    Votes: 37 17.5%
  • 4. Yugoslavia 1920

    Votes: 27 12.7%
  • 5. India 1947

    Votes: 28 13.2%
  • 6. alt-fascist Italy 1922

    Votes: 29 13.7%
  • 7. South Africa 1994

    Votes: 18 8.5%
  • 8. Germany 1990

    Votes: 20 9.4%
  • 9. Japan 2000

    Votes: 18 8.5%
  • 10. United Kingdom 1997

    Votes: 20 9.4%

  • Total voters
    212
  • Poll closed .
Okay, my basic plan is a four point plan.

1. Eliminate any and all attempts to russify other cultures, it's a fools gambit to try and erase traditions people have held onto for thousands of years just to be replaced with Russian ones unless they are completely reactionary. (E.g. Patriarchal ways against women, Ableist attitudes, Homophobic stuff, etc.)

2. Revive Esperanto, I know it'll seem strange but keep in mind that Esperanto was incredibly popular in the early union and I think with a few tweaks it'll help us connect people across the union without seeming like Russian supremacists. The way to revive Esperanto is to keep Russian as our linga Franca for the next 15 years while we teach Esperanto to the next generation and our bureaucrats.

3. Start cultural exchanges with our Pioneer program and our army. For the younger pioneers, they'll do traditional summer camp things but with people kids of different cultures. (Imagine, Armenian Pioneers going on beach trips with Ukrainian Pioneers in the black sea or Buryatian & Georgian Pioneers going on hikes together.) The older pioneers would help our armed forces who are returning from Afghanistan and do community work / improvements in the various SSRs. (Basically, if your an older teenager from Moscow, you would go to Armenia for the summer to do community gardening and bonding with the locals while a Platoon from the same area would bond with the locals as well and help repair the roads and do other heavy tasks.)

4. Improvements to the trains and other public transport so people across the union can easily and freely move around the Union.

With this 4 point plan, I imagine that a proud Soviet citizen of 2010 will be able to take their family from the Tajik SSR being able to take their family on a Beach Vacation to a resort on the Black Sea by train, and speak fluent Esperanto to everyone around them, Tajik among their family, and maybe their Son/Daughter speaking a phrase or two in Ukrainian to the waiter they picked up while at Summer camp in Odessa.
I think loosening controls over internal transport and investing in it is a good idea, increased inter-union/inter-WPO tourism might curtail people's desire for foreign travel and strengthen our unity, but again we are in a fiscal crisis and i think we'd be better off focusing our resources on the current objectives of the Five-Year Plan, however the idea has merit.

As for the reintroduction of Esperanto, i doubt it will ever reach the status of a true auxillary language in our nation, but it can't hurt. We should bring back Esperanto education as you've suggested and promote linguistic internationalism and exchange among our youth. Taking a more internationalist view in our political education will do us wonders in the long term as well.
 
I think loosening controls over internal transport and investing in it is a good idea, increased inter-union/inter-WPO tourism might curtail people's desire for foreign travel and strengthen our unity, but again we are in a fiscal crisis and i think we'd be better off focusing our resources on the current objectives of the Five-Year Plan, however the idea has merit.

As for the reintroduction of Esperanto, i doubt it will ever reach the status of a true auxillary language in our nation, but it can't hurt. We should bring back Esperanto education as you've suggested and promote linguistic internationalism and exchange among our youth. Taking a more internationalist view in our political education will do us wonders in the long term as well.
Thank you for the reply and the input.

I agree that it would be a little too wacky to sink all this money at a time of a budget deficit, my plan was more so aspirational then something we could start on today (there's a reason my hypothetical family is in the distant and futuristic year of 2010 haha).

But even if we can't start on everything right away, we can still do some things, like the promotion of Esperanto/inter WPO tourism & using our still mobilized troops that are returning home to build infrastructure in our neglected Central Asian SSRs / better connections with the friendly Afghan government.

But if we can't do any of that, then the least we can do is the immediate pausing of all Russification barring trying to get rid of the most reactionary and barbaric of practices.
 
Thank you for the reply and the input.

I agree that it would be a little too wacky to sink all this money at a time of a budget deficit, my plan was more so aspirational then something we could start on today (there's a reason my hypothetical family is in the distant and futuristic year of 2010 haha).

But even if we can't start on everything right away, we can still do some things, like the promotion of Esperanto/inter WPO tourism & using our still mobilized troops that are returning home to build infrastructure in our neglected Central Asian SSRs / better connections with the friendly Afghan government.

But if we can't do any of that, then the least we can do is the immediate pausing of all Russification barring trying to get rid of the most reactionary and barbaric of practices.
Yeah i'd say this would be an excellent addition to the next Five-Year Plan. It's a shame this scenario will end in 2000. (Or was it 1996? Either way it seems too short) I want nothing more then to see how our Union will evolve into the 21st Century.
 
Yeah i'd say this would be an excellent addition to the next Five-Year Plan. It's a shame this scenario will end in 2000. (Or was it 1996? Either way it seems too short) I want nothing more then to see how our Union will evolve into the 21st Century.
I hope it goes for as long as possible, and heres hoping it gets added to the next 5 year plan!

Let's Bring Esperanto back from the dead as a language of all Soviet workers!

Gloro al la festo!, Gloro al Sovetunio! Gloron al la daŭraj venkoj de la laborista klaso!
 
That won't really fly and will be complicated as no one will follow the language in private, nor in public and it will be shut down privately. It also requires all Soviet politicians (in every republic) to learn a new language, every burocrat to learn how to write, military will need to change its own language as well.

Basically it would never catch up in the governance,or with population. Other problem is that everyone wants to speak their own language and have their own culture, they don't want some new common language and culture. Basically you are going from Korenizatsiia (everyone are oppressing Russians) and Russification (Russians are oppressing everyone) to Communist are oppressing everyone and trying to destroy our culture.

Honestly just give people option to talk their own language, for Russian? It's already common language of Soviet Union and much of eastern Europe (WP) like English is today a world language.
Fair enough, I change my answer for russification to simply end in favor of multiculturalism.
 
Well I believe that we should officially remain as a atheist state but in reality we would tolerate the existence of religious movements and groups, we should scale down the existing anti-religious policies along with removing the anti-religion propaganda posters we made, allowing people who practice in Orthodoxy, Islam or other groups the freedom to not be persecuted by our anti-religion policies.

Doing this while Romanov is already popular with the Islamic world after the recent anti-Jewish speech incident will definitely further improve his image with the Middle East, especially with the recent news that we are pulling out of Afghanistan.

But I believe we should still try to promote atheism in some way or form without having to resort to drastic measures.

Actually this seems more fitting. Instead of transitioning into Secular state we simply lax our anty religion policies but still maintain state Atheism with religious symbols being barred from schools, workplace etc.

But building religious objects, going in them and having religious festivities home is allowed. We may even allow important religious holidays (from republic to republic as they follow different religions, but USSR won't embrace all of them at the same time, we have our own holidays that everyone in the union can celebrate together).

This would also be a lot more acceptable to our fellow WP members and Communists/Socialist allies across the world. Of course Religious leaders are expected to comply to the party and cooperate with it within Soviet Union.

So yea I'm supporting this.
 
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Yeah i'd say this would be an excellent addition to the next Five-Year Plan. It's a shame this scenario will end in 2000. (Or was it 1996? Either way it seems too short) I want nothing more then to see how our Union will evolve into the 21st Century.
December 1991 is the end for this thread. If someone were willing to do a spinoff of this game in the 90s and so on, I would be very happy, but I've already other plans.
 
I'd love to do a spin off but i've never written a TL before, this thread is my first time outside of lurking. I don't think i could do yours justice but I might give it a go though if nobody else would be interested.
 
I'd love to do a spin off but i've never written a TL before, this thread is my first time outside of lurking. I don't think i could do yours justice but I might give it a go though if nobody else would be interested.
That would be great and I would really love to see TTL's 90s and further with the rise of China
 
Update on future
Dear comrades, I've really good news. As I've earlier mentioned this TL will end in December 1991, but a continuation thread picking up in 1992 will be done by dear comrade @Altlov, who without a doubt has many great ideas for the future of our Motherland. As for the rest of this thread goes we will continue with our modernization of the Soviet state, Communist Party and Socialism.

Long live the USSR and teachings of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Romanov!

Да здравствует СССР и учение Маркса, Энгельса, Ленина, Сталина и Романова!
 
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Dear comrades, I've really good news. As I've earlier mentioned this TL will in December 1991, but a continuation thread picking up in 1992 will be done by dear comrade @Altlov, who without a doubt has many great ideas for the future of our Motherland. As for the rest of this thread goes we will continue with our modernization of the Soviet state, Communist Party and Socialism.

Long live the USSR and teachings of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Romanov!
Thank you comrade, I look forward to continuing our great socialist project with our fellow comrades long into the 21st Century, may our red banner never falter.

Слава СССР!

 
Dear comrades, I've really good news. As I've earlier mentioned this TL will end in December 1991, but a continuation thread picking up in 1992 will be done by dear comrade @Altlov, who without a doubt has many great ideas for the future of our Motherland. As for the rest of this thread goes we will continue with our modernization of the Soviet state, Communist Party and Socialism.

Long live the USSR and teachings of Marx, Engels, Lenin, Stalin and Romanov!

Да здравствует СССР и учение Маркса, Энгельса, Ленина, Сталина и Романова!
Thank you comrade, I look forward to continuing our great socialist project with our fellow comrades long into the 21st Century, may our red banner never falter.

Слава СССР!


Nice, i want to see our glorious motherland going forward into a modern age and finally catching up to the West in living standards.
 
Also, if anybody has any suggestions or ideas as to events we could cover in the 1990s-2010s, how they differ from OTL, what modern figures should appear and how, etc then I'd love to hear them.
 
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