Could Luxembourg expand within the German Empire?

[Fehérvári]

In a CP victory scenario, inwhich Luxembourg joins the German Empire as a new member state, how likely could it be that Prussia cedes the Britburg-Prüm region? Most of the area was historically Luxembourgish, and the cession would not only compensate for Luxembourg's loss of sovereignty, but it would also ensure its increased "Germanness".

 

[Alexniko]

In a CP victory scenario, inwhich Luxembourg joins the German Empire as a new member state, how likely could it be that Prussia cedes the Britburg-Prüm region? Most of the area was historically Luxembourgish, and the cession would not only compensate for Luxembourg's loss of sovereignty, but it would also ensure its increased "Germanness".

Not likely IMHO. Prussia was very keen on not only retaining but even expanding it's dominant position within the Empire. A loss of territory for, well, nothing doesn't sound too appealing. Allthough the reasoning behind your thesis is solid, Prussia wouldn't have accepted it. And the Kaiser was firmly on Prussias side here – no wonders, King of Prussia was his second job after all.

 

[Fehérvári]

Not likely IMHO. Prussia was very keen on not only retaining but even expanding it's dominant position within the Empire. A loss of territory for, well, nothing doesn't sound too appealing. Allthough the reasoning behind your thesis is solid, Prussia wouldn't have accepted it. And the Kaiser was firmly on Prussias side here – no wonders, King of Prussia was his second job after all.

Would the Kaiser and the Prussians still refuse the idea even if the Grand Duchess would declare her unwillingness to ratify Luxembourg's ascension to the German Empire unless said area is ceded to the country?

Ofcourse, Germany could annex Luxembourg either way, however Maria-Adélaïde's uncooperation would completely delegitimise such move. It would better be avoided.

What do you think?

 

[Xavier]

Not likely IMHO. Prussia was very keen on not only retaining but even expanding it's dominant position within the Empire. A loss of territory for, well, nothing doesn't sound too appealing. Allthough the reasoning behind your thesis is solid, Prussia wouldn't have accepted it. And the Kaiser was firmly on Prussias side here – no wonders, King of Prussia was his second job after all.

Indeed, nothing to gain for Prussia here, so not happening. Even more so since legally, King of Prussia is his first job (he gets to be German Emperor ex officio in the constitution).

Would the Kaiser and the Prussians still refuse the idea even if the Grand Duchess would declare her unwillingness to ratify Luxembourg's ascension to the German Empire unless said area is ceded to the country?

Ofcourse, Germany could annex Luxembourg either way, however Maria-Adélaïde's uncooperation would completely delegitimise such move. It would better be avoided.

What do you think?

An unlikely hill to die on for powerless Luxembourg, they are bound to get better treatment by 'willingly' joining the Empire than by futilly insisting on regaining a few rural districts.

 

[NoMommsen]

A CP victory would make even it to Maria-Adélaide and esp to whatever Minister might serve her at the end of the wsr clear, that whatever international franco.british backed 'guarantee' therer migth be uttered with giant as the german empire at your dorst... sitting on your lap they aren't worth a drop of ink.
They would be happy to be incorporated into the confederation the German 2nd Empire was without any conditions (if v.Eyschen's still around some langue and school issue mitgh paly some side role) at all. ... and NOT being outright annexed into Prussia what the other german states (Saxony, Bavaria, Württembergia, Badenia) would strongly oppose anyway.

However. To make it look somewhat more 'acceptable' I could imagine that the Briey-Longwy industrial region - or only the Longwy region with the Brieyre-gion to Prussia or under some kind of temporary Saar-statute like deal -might be added to Luxemburg as well as some of it former parts that were given to Belgium in 1815 and 1839 (region of Arlon and Virton maybe ?).

So :
no need to cede prussian territory at all.

..., King of Prussia was his second job after all.

Sry but ... King of Prussia was his FIRST job, Kaiser and head of the conferadtion the german empire constitutionally was came always onlysecond - as already with grampa Wilhelm I.

 

[Alexniko]

Even more so since legally, King of Prussia is his first job (he gets to be German Emperor ex officio in the constitution).

Sry but ... King of Prussia was his FIRST job, Kaiser and head of the conferadtion the german empire constitutionally was came always onlysecond - as already with grampa Wilhelm I.

You're of course right, It was more of a phrase.