Cooperative Countries of an Alternate World Thread

Here's my new idea: We make different countries just like the Countries of an Alternate World Thread (google it if you don't know what that is), only this time, each of us takes part in the same country.

For example, the first person creates the name of a country. The next person defines the territory of that country and names another country. The third person invents population statistics for the first, defines territory four the second, and names the third, and so on.

This is the order:


  1. Name (may include local and official names)
  2. Territory (either a map or a description of the territory)
  3. Population info (the number, as well as the ethnic groups/races)
  4. Government info
  5. Languages and religions
  6. Capital and major cities
  7. History
  8. Additional information (may include flag and economy)
As always, all the countries must be in one modern-day world.

I'll start:

Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)
 
Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)

Territory Finland and Karelia Penninsula

Republic of Rhodesia (Zimbabwae)
Republic of Rhodesisa (Zimbabwae)

I Hope im doing this correctly
 
I want this to succeed but I know it'll fail like my thread that it's based off of.

Regardless I'll contribute.

Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)

Territory: Finland and Karelia Peninsula

Demographics:
Population:11 million
Ethnic groups: Finns, Swedes, Saami, Russians, Karelians

Republic of Rhodesia (Zimbabwae)
Republic of Rhodesisa (Zimbabwae)

Territory: The entire East and South African coast south of Egypt and east of Namibia

Republiek van de Nieuw-Nederland (Nieuw-Nederland)
Republic of the New Netherland (New Netherland)
 
Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)

Territory: Finland and Karelia Penninsula

Population: approx. 6,200,000. Finnish: 92%, Swedish: 5%, Karelians: 1%, Russians: 0.5%, Sami: 0.1% Other: 1.4%

Republic of Rhodesia (Zimbabwae)
Republic of Rhodesisa (Zimbabwae)

Territory: Zambia and Zimbabwe

United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and Hannover
United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and Hannover
Vereinigtes Königreich von Großbritannien, Irland und Hannover
An Ríocht Aontaithe na hÉireann Breataine Móire, agus Hannover
Reeriaght Unnaneysit ny Bretyn Mooar,Nerin as Hannover
Deyrnas Unedig Fawr, Prydain ac Iwerddon Hannover

EDIT: Xwarq, don't you think a state that covers half of Africa is a bit big?
 
Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)

Territory: Finland and Karelia Penninsula

Population: approx. 6,200,000. Finnish: 92%, Swedish: 5%, Karelians: 1%, Russians: 0.5%, Sami: 0.1% Other: 1.4%

Republic of Rhodesia (Zimbabwae)
Republic of Rhodesisa (Zimbabwae)

Territory: Zambia and Zimbabwe

United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and Hannover
United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and Hannover
Vereinigtes Königreich von Großbritannien, Irland und Hannover
An Ríocht Aontaithe na hÉireann Breataine Móire, agus Hannover
Reeriaght Unnaneysit ny Bretyn Mooar,Nerin as HannoverDeyrnas Unedig Fawr, Prydain ac Iwerddon Hannover
Add Govt. info for Finland, Demographics for Rhodesia, and Territory for Nieuw-Nederland

EDIT: Xwarq, don't you think a state that covers half of Africa is a bit big?

It's not my state.

And not really, I imagine the British could have had a large chunk of their territory in Africa break off as one nation do to Pan-Africanism.
 
I say we go with Alex's post, seeing as Xwarq's territory for Zimbabwae is a bit too ridiculous. But feel free to add New Netherland in the near future.
 
I say we go with Alex's post, seeing as Xwarq's territory for Zimbabwae is a bit too ridiculous. But feel free to add New Netherland in the near future.
How is it ridiculous? I could definitely see a quarter to a third of Africa becoming one state if it was all colonized by one power, in this case Britain.

If I can't have an alternate Zimbabwe, then can the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and Hannover be a small fringe state with actually only Hannover and a small portion of England, while the rest of it revolted in a democratic or socialist revolution?

I mean, the POD has to be at least before 1900. We need some things to be alternate.
 
How is it ridiculous? I could definitely see a quarter to a third of Africa becoming one state if it was all colonized by one power, in this case Britain.

If I can't have an alternate Zimbabwe, then can the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and Hannover be a small fringe state with actually only Hannover and a small portion of England, while the rest of it revolted in a democratic or socialist revolution?

I mean, the POD has to be at least before 1900. We need some things to be alternate.

Okay. The Zimbabwe can stay. Therefore, let's make a new rule: If two people post at once, the first person's country stays.
 
Ok since Xwarg was first

Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)

Territory: Finland and Karelia Peninsula

Demographics:
Population:11 million
Ethnic groups: Finns, Swedes, Saami, Russians, Karelians

Government-Communist Dictatorship :)

Republic of Rhodesia (Zimbabwae)
Republic of Rhodesisa (Zimbabwae)

Territory: The entire East and South African coast south of Egypt and east of Namibia

European Population: 10 Million ,Native Population 30-40 Million Ethnic Groups: Sub Saharan Africans, Boers, English, and South East Asians

Republiek van de Nieuw-Nederland (Nieuw-Nederland)
Republic of the New Netherland (New Netherland)

Territory: Tasmania and the Coast of Southern Africa

Ville Libre de Calais
Free City of Calais
 
i know but these dictatorships most always stlye themselves as the peoples republic of, the demorcratic republic of Anyway we need someone to continue what the fourm is about
 
Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)

Territory: Finland and Karelia Peninsula

Demographics:
Population:11 million
Ethnic groups: Finns, Swedes, Saami, Russians, Karelians

Government-Communist Dictatorship :)

Languages: Finnish (official), Swedish, Saami, Karelian, Veps, Russian
Religions: Protestant, Catholic, Atheist, Agnostic

Republic of Rhodesia (Zimbabwae)
Republic of Rhodesisa (Zimbabwae)

Territory: The entire East and South African coast south of Egypt and east of Namibia

European Population: 10 Million ,Native Population 30-40 Million Ethnic Groups: Sub Saharan Africans, Boers, English, and South East Asians

Government: Slightly corrupt republic

Republiek van de Nieuw-Nederland (Nieuw-Nederland)
Republic of the New Netherland (New Netherland)

Territory: Tasmania and the Coast of Southern Africa

Population: 11,003,492 (2010 estimate); Dutch and native peoples

Ville Libre de Calais
Free City of Calais

Territory: Calais

Estados Unidos de California (California)*
United States of California (California)

*Decided to do a Spanish-speaking country to make the translation easy for me.
 
How is it ridiculous? I could definitely see a quarter to a third of Africa becoming one state if it was all colonized by one power, in this case Britain.

If I can't have an alternate Zimbabwe, then can the United Kingdom of Great Britain, Ireland and Hannover be a small fringe state with actually only Hannover and a small portion of England, while the rest of it revolted in a democratic or socialist revolution?

I mean, the POD has to be at least before 1900. We need some things to be alternate.

It's pretty improbable actually. There were enough cultural differences between Zimbabwe, Zambia and Malawi alone to rip apart the federataion of Rhodesia and Nyasserland, the attempted union of Senegambia between Senegal and the Gambia (pretty likely you would think considering the fact that the Gambia is almost surrounded by Senegal) and the Mali federation between Mali and Senegal (both colonised by France) collapsed within a year of formation. Meanwhile it has taken 10 years for the East African Community to agree to a unified currency by 2015, and that's after the Community was reformed having collapsed in 1977. Add to this the fact that Southern Rhodesia rejected an offer to join the Union of South Africa in 1922, the ongoing breakup of Sudan, and independence based Civil Wars in Nigeria, Somalia and the Ivory Coast and it starts looking rather improbable. There's also the fact that getting Mozambique in is likely to requrie a PoD before Rhodes was born and that it's very unlikely that such a large federation would be called Rhodesia. Heck getting north and south Rhodesia to stay together is hard enough.

As for the UKBGIH, I never specified how much of Hannover is there.
 
Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)

Territory: Finland and Karelia Peninsula

Demographics:
Population:11 million
Ethnic groups: Finns, Swedes, Saami, Russians, Karelians

Government-Communist Dictatorship :)

Languages: Finnish (official), Swedish, Saami, Karelian, Veps, Russian
Religions: Protestant, Catholic, Atheist, Agnostic

Capital: Helenski Major Cities: Murmansk, Oulu, Petrozavodsk

Republic of Rhodesia (Zimbabwae)
Republic of Rhodesisa (Zimbabwae)

Territory: The entire East and South African coast south of Egypt and east of Namibia

European Population: 10 Million ,Native Population 30-40 Million Ethnic Groups: Sub Saharan Africans, Boers, English, and South East Asians

Government: Slightly corrupt republic

Langauges: English, Affrikans, Dutch
Religions: Anglicanism, Catholicism, Church of Southern Africa, Various Tribal Religions, Hinduism, Buddhism

Republiek van de Nieuw-Nederland (Nieuw-Nederland)
Republic of the New Netherland (New Netherland)

Territory: Tasmania and the Coast of Southern Africa

Population: 11,003,492 (2010 estimate); Dutch and native peoples

Government: Parlimentary Republic

Ville Libre de Calais
Free City of Calais

Territory: Calais

Population:100,000

Estados Unidos de California (California)
United States of California (California)

Territory: California, Nevada, Baja California, Baja California Sur

State Pontificae
The Papal State
 
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If I may join in

Suomen Tasavalta (Suomi)
Republic of Finland (Finland)

Territory: Finland and Karelia Peninsula

Demographics:
Population:11 million
Ethnic groups: Finns, Swedes, Saami, Russians, Karelians

Government-Communist Dictatorship

Languages: Finnish (official), Swedish, Saami, Karelian, Veps, Russian
Religions: Protestant, Catholic, Atheist, Agnostic

Capital: Helenski Major Cities: Murmansk, Oulu, Petrozavodsk

After a sucessful Finish Take over of the Karelian Peninsula in 1794, while Russia was distracted with the Partition of Poland and the Great Game. Since then it was only conquered once, by Russia in 1930, and was freed since then.

Republic of Rhodesia (Zimbabwae)
Republic of Rhodesisa (Zimbabwae)

Territory: The entire East and South African coast south of Egypt and east of Namibia

European Population: 10 Million ,Native Population 30-40 Million Ethnic Groups: Sub Saharan Africans, Boers, English, and South East Asians

Government: Slightly corrupt republic

Langauges: English, Afrikaans, Dutch

Religions: Anglicanism, Catholicism, Church of Southern Africa, Various Tribal Religions, Hinduism, Buddhism

Capital: Capetown

Other Major Cities: Mogadishu, Kharkoum, Pretoria

Republiek van de Nieuw-Nederland (Nieuw-Nederland)
Republic of the New Netherland (New Netherland)

Territory: Tasmania and the Coast of Southern Africa

Population: 11,003,492 (2010 estimate); Dutch and native peoples

Government: Parlimentary Republic

Religion: Protestantism 89%, Catholicism 8%, Other 3%

Ville Libre de Calais
Free City of Calais

Territory: Calais

Population:100,000

Government: Democracy

Languages:French, and some English in the Northern sections.

Estados Unidos de California (California)
United States of California (California)

Territory: California, Nevada, Baja California, Baja California Sur

Population: 12,345,400

State Pontificae
The Papal State

Territory: Southern Italy


Rhineland Federal Republik
Federal Republic of Rhineland
 
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You messed it up........ You add a new country, add Territory to the one before, Population and Ethnic Groups to the one before that, etc.

Heres the List
  1. Name (may include local and official names)
  2. Territory (either a map or a description of the territory)
  3. Population info (the number, as well as the ethnic groups/races)
  4. Government info
  5. Languages and religions
  6. Capital and major cities
  7. History
  8. Additional information (may include flag and economy)
 
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