Changing of the Seasons: An Alternate Risorgimento - Mk. II

Curt Jester

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[A Portrait of King Maximilian I of Lombardy-Venetia]

Prologue
"Our biggest regrets are not for the things we have done but for the things we haven't done."

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"You think that I would sink that low? Are you mad? I am the King of Prussia, not some lowly duke. I will not touch a crown smeared with the hussy smell of revolution!" Those were the words spoken by King Frederick William IV when the Frankfurt Parliament had offered him the chance at an empire. Shortly afterwards he stormed out very dramatically, disappointing the revolutionaries.

The members of the Parliament, a group that most would call illegitimate, knew there was a low chance of Frederick accepting their offer to become the first ever German Emperor, forming a nation of ethnic Germans on par with France or Russia. The brown nosed Prussians had been dealing with power far beyond their own for long, lifting above their weight, they didn't realize it wouldn't last forever. A Prussian first and a German second, that lot were. And it's because of that very pompous attitude that the offer to become German Emperor had fell next to Emperor Franz Joseph I of Austria. [I.] Franz was honored, and dispatched diplomats to the major German states, asking if they'd be willing to join in this union. He didn't want to do anything rash until he knew for sure that this Empire would hold together. While the Parliament had many powerful and influential figures, only the lords of Germany themselves could uphold it. The constitution had all states keeping their rulers and prestige, but under an Emperor, and as a combined state. The King of Württemberg agreed, and so did Austria's long time ally in Bavaria, but with the stipulation that the capital is not Vienna, but Frankfurt or another city more central in Germany instead. The King of Saxony sent back a diplomat agreeing as well (but of course, at this point, the King of Saxony had lost 40% of his land to the Prussians). But Austria was a different challenge than Prussia altogether. Austria itself was a proud German state, but it's Empire was largely a multicultural one, encompassing Germans and a dozen different Slavic races on a good day. The Parliament did not like that: their goal was to create a German nation, not a multicultural one. It left quite a task on young Franz Joseph, deciding whether or not to dismantle the current Empire to create a new one. The Austrian Empire was a familiar courtyard; this new German Empire was full of unexpected turns and unfamiliar opportunities. And Austria was different from the rest of Germany; it always viewed itself as Austrian, moreso than Prussians thought of themselves as Prussian. Austria had always been proud of it's special place as the central holding of the strongest dynasty in Europe and perhaps rightly so. While all of it's rivals were elevated to Kingdoms, Austria remained a mere Archduchy - but the people of Austria thought of the Archduchy to be beyond most Kingdoms. Yes, it left quite a conundrum for Franz Joseph to figure out. His mother, Archduchess Sophia, on the other hand, had already made up her mind.

"My dearest son, think of it! You cannot let this opportunity pass!" The Archduchess was very excited about the idea of her own son as the German Emperor, and would not let him miss out on the chance to be the founder of a new legacy, one even greater than their own. "You would be the one ushering in a new age! A new era!"

"But Mother!" Franz Joseph rubbed his temples, tired of repeating the same arguments. He felt as if he was a ghost, doomed to continue to go through the motions forever. "We cannot dismantle our legacy, our Empire!"

"Our legacy is that of the Holy Roman Empire." Sophia smiled widely, reminiscing on the past as if she'd been there herself. "Our family led the minor states for hundreds of years, guiding them and protecting them. And this is our chance to restore that power!"

"What of the Empire, though! Not that Empire, but our Empire? Admit that it is a lost cause and give them all independence, like those damned revolutionaries want? Create a total power vacuum?" Franz sighed and stood up, pacing back and forth through out the dining room. "This is our land that we have conquered over years and years of marriages and war! This is who we are!"

"Sit back down, dear, remember your manners." He did as she said; even as an Emperor, he was still obedient to his mother. "No, dearest, of course not. We will do what we have done in the past, when needed. We will do what Emperor Maximilian and King Ferdinand once did. We will divide our lands amongst ourselves. We will set up your brothers as independent lords of these side realms. We will give into the demands of these revolutionaries - indeed they will have their wanted independence. But it will be under the guiding hand of our family. Europe has always needed our family to guide them, and that will not stop now. Our Empire will continue in all but name, and this way we not only maintain our Empire, but we will rule all of central Europe!"

The young Emperor saw the logic in that. "You're right, that is the wisest thing to do."

"Of course i'm right dear. I'm your mother, and mothers always know what is best. Even the mothers of Emperors." She tapped her chin. "Especially the mothers of Emperors."

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"It is not for nothing that the Archduchess Sophia is known as the Mother of Europe. Her dividing the Habsburg lands not only led to the foundation of the German Empire, but the four states that came out of it laid the foundation for our great European Brotherhood. She had remarkable foresight indeed." - Joachim Vanderwald, Diamonds and Divination: Biography of the Mother of Europe

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Archduchess Sophia was a cunning woman, indeed, one with quite the gift for seeing the future. She wanted nothing but the greatest for her sons, and knew each and every one of them was destined for magnificence! Her own son being the one to bring in a golden age of central Europe.. it wasn't something she would let slip through her - or his - fingers. It took several more days of debating, but in the end, Sophia won the argument, as she always did. And she had some good points; the year before was a daunting one on the Habsburgs, with the so called 'Spring of Revolutions'. Many of the minority groups in the Empire were tired of being subservient to Vienna, and this seemed a decent way to give the people what they wanted without dismembering the Habsburg's hold on central Europe. And so on April 20th, Franz Joseph returned to the Parliament, and was crowned Franz I, German Emperor, marking a new era as a German state was born. Soon after, on April 29th, Franz Joseph announced what would be called the Proclamation of Prague, separating the Austrian Empire into four crowns. Franz I, German Emperor remained as Archduke of Austria and King of Bohemia. His youngest brother, Ludwig Viktor, would be named King of Croatia, with his mother, the Archduchess herself, as regent until he came of age. His brother Karl Ludwig would be named King of Greater Hungary and rule over Hungary and Galicia, with his uncle, Palatine Stephen of Hungary, serving as his regent until he came of age. [II.] And his other brother, Ferdinand Maximilian, was more than happy to take up the reins as King of Lombardy-Venetia, the Italian provinces of the Habsburg Empire. Indeed, the liberal young man was ready to make his own mark upon the world. And while the Empire had been dismantled, the Habsburgs had survived the Spring of Revolutions in one piece - and now it was time for a changing of the seasons.

 
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Curt Jester

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Ah, what's this then?

A remake of CotS, my Habsburg Italy TL.

Why a remake?

I sort of lost focus on the other one, rushed into things that didn't need to be rushed into, and applied the 'rule of cool' to that one.

Sounds kind of stupid.

Well, it was.

Why not just edit that one?

Because fresh starts are better?

I guess so.

Yep.

So... what's different?

Well the prologue isn't super different, I just tweaked a couple of things and added some stuff. The rest of it will be very different, however, and much slower paced.

Sounds lame.

It probably will be.

Okie dokie then, I think this little monologue can be wrapped up around now.

Yep. Luckily it didn't get too self depreciating!

... not too late for that.

Okay, well, i'll hurry this along then. Enjoy the timeline! As with the other, please feel free to leave any comments, suggestions, advice or criticisms.
 

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[Daniele Manin and Niccolò Tommaseo after the proclamation of the Republic of San Marco]

Part I

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"It is quite clear that the Treaty of San Marco was the first make it or break it moment for Lombardy-Venetia. If it wasn't for the peaceful way it was handled, it is very likely that the rebellion wouldn't of ended, and Italy most likely would never of united." - Professor Benji Delamara, A Modern History of the Italian State

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King Ferdinand Maximilian did not truly begin his reign until the May of 1849.

Although the splitting of the Habsburg Empire technically occurred in 1848, during the Spring of Revolutions, Maximilian had other things to do before leaving for his new Kingdom. The first was replying to a letter written by the current viceroy of Lombardy-Venetia, Joseph Radetzky. Radetzky was, in Maximilian's opinion, not the smartest fellow. The Hungarian viceroy had done the best with what he was given, but he was too harsh, too brutal, and too conservative for Maximilian's liking.

Radetzky, after hearing about the Proclamation of Prague, had written to Maximilian, trying to convince the young King into promoting him to Prime Minister of the Kingdom - basically keeping his old job. Maximilian would have none of it, however, and instead opted to replace him. A close cousin of the Imperial Family, Archduke Rainer Ferdinand (who was young and rather liberal himself, much to Maximilian's liking) was chosen to be risen up to the prestigious post. Rainer's father (also named Rainer) was the Viceroy of Lombary-Venetia before Radetzky had taken over, and Rainer decided following in his father's footsteps may not be that bad of an idea. He accepted the position almost immediately. And it was Prime Minister Rainer's string pulling that led to his older brother, Archduke Leopold Ludwig, being named as Vice Admiral of the Lombard-Venetian Navy. Rainer was therefore also responsible for a thawing out of relations between his brother and his cousin (when they were younger, the two bickered and fought). Although not technically in an advisory position, King Maximilian very much leaned on Leopold (as well as Rainer) for advice during his reign. The three cousins were behind the majority of the schemes enacted in the early years of the Kingdom.

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Escorted by a small army, Ferdinand Maximilian had come to Venice in order to negotiate a surrender of the rebels who had overtaken the city. And all things considered, it was going pretty well. When Maximilian's older brother Franz Joseph had announced the splitting up of the Austrian Empire, it had shocked most of Europe, throwing a wrench into the plans of many, many people. The royal family of Piedmont-Sardinia were counted among those many people. Earlier in the year, the Papacy and the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies had both withdrawn from the war against the Austrian possessions in Italy. Despite the lack of support from their neighbors, however, the Savoyards had decided to continue their plight, backing the Republic of San Marco with both the funds and the men (who were merely Savoy thugs in the uniform of this independent Republic). Even after King Charles of Sardinia abdicated in favor of his son and technically surrendered, the funding continued, and so did the Republic. The Savoys were setting themselves up to become the masters of Italy, and taking out the Habsburgs was the first thing on their path to that. But the Piedmontese had underestimated the Austrians, and they would pay soon enough.

Maximilian rubbed his eyes and shifted from one foot to another uncomfortably, waiting for the leader of the rebels to approach him. The Venetian rebels weren't exactly sure what to do at this point; their point of campaigning was to separate from Austria and to have their independence. And now they had it. Not in the way they intended, of course, but they hadn't expected the Austrians to even consider anything of the sort. So, when Maximilian, escorted by a large army of heavily armed men, had bowed to the guards and told them the news, it had sent a ripple of shock through the lagoon, and soon, a ceasefire was called as they negotiated a peace.

Maximilian had decided that the state of shock the people were in heavily tipped the scales to his advantage.

Daniele Manin, the leader of this rebellion, walked up to Maximilian with a perplexed look on his face.

"The guards tell me that you're Archduke Ferdinand of Austria. Is that the truth?"

"I prefer Maximilian, honestly." The King said with a smile, trying his best to charm the Jewish rebel. By the frown on Manin's face, it didn't seem to be working very well.

"Well, er, Maximilian, I don't know exactly what you have come here for, but if you're lying -" Daniele said, with a snarl beginning to form behind the words. Before he could issue out a threat he was cut off.

"My friend, I speak nothing but the truth."

"So the Austrians... the Austrians have given us independence?" As Manin asked, Maximilian nodded slowly. "But... with one of their own as King..."

Maximilian nodded again, beginning to grow impatient. Daniele Manin was very slow in taking in knowledge, and it was beginning to grate on Ferdinand Maximilian's nerves.

"And that King... is you... if you're telling the truth that is."

The two began to whisper to each other. People began to gather around the men, keeping a short distance, watching in both confusion and curiosity. After a few minutes of talking the two came to an agreement. Maximilian, as much as he disliked the man, decided that his charisma and hold over the Venetian people would be to his advantage as well. He offered Daniele a position as Governor of Venice, and full amnesty for the rebellion, if they surrendered the city to the Kingdom of Lombardy-Venetia. Maximilian let Daniele know that all other matters could be settled later, and that ending this rebellion needed to happen now and if it didn't the Austrian armies would storm the city, as much as he didn't want it to happen. Daniele looked back at the crowd that was watching with beads of sweat falling from his forehead, and nodded. The two shook hands, beginning the Treaty of San Marco. The treaty would be fully written later that week, after Maximilian's coronation. Despite the surrender, Daniele Manin walked away from Maximilian and proclaimed victory. Maximilian decided to keep an eye on Manin - the leesh on their new Governor would have to be extremely short.

 
you got it wrong, was Frederick William IV, not III(III is already dead), the rest still nifty, a dowager have not power over FJ and would easily dismiss her, even maximilam wanted the rebellion put him down before negotiated, that is a giant 'shoot me' signal

the rest the timeline have potential, specially with hungary and croatia.
 

Curt Jester

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you got it wrong, was Frederick William IV, not III(III is already dead), the rest still nifty, a dowager have not power over FJ and would easily dismiss her, even maximilam wanted the rebellion put him down before negotiated, that is a giant 'shoot me' signal

the rest the timeline have potential, specially with hungary and croatia.

Ah, it was Frederick IV of Prussia, you're right. I'll fix that in a second.

She doesn't have 'power' over him, but it's his mother, and IOTL he relied on her for advice a lot. She didn't order him to do anything, she acted like a normal mother. Can't really 'dismiss' a mom from being your mom. (Well you can, but...)

The TL won't really focus on Croatia or Hungary, though they have their parts in it.
 
Ah, it was Frederick IV of Prussia, you're right. I'll fix that in a second.

She doesn't have 'power' over him, but it's his mother, and IOTL he relied on her for advice a lot. She didn't order him to do anything, she acted like a normal mother. Can't really 'dismiss' a mom from being your mom. (Well you can, but...)

The TL won't really focus on Croatia or Hungary, though they have their parts in it.

Yeah but the whole italy part is a little pressing, feels more like a theatrical version that RL, i can belive he would give anesty and negotiated but never put himself as equal to rebels, the is a liberal still a high ranking noble, the rest is pausable, the savoys must be sweating bullets, declaring war to Lombardy-venetia is declaring war all austria-germany, and they can easily take their places as italy stalwart(plus hapbsurg can give the pope an offer he can not refuse).

The rest keep going, TL have potential
 

Curt Jester

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Yeah but the whole italy part is a little pressing, feels more like a theatrical version that RL, i can belive he would give anesty and negotiated but never put himself as equal to rebels, the is a liberal still a high ranking noble, the rest is pausable, the savoys must be sweating bullets, declaring war to Lombardy-venetia is declaring war all austria-germany, and they can easily take their places as italy stalwart(plus hapbsurg can give the pope an offer he can not refuse).

The rest keep going, TL have potential

He didn't put himself as an equal, he just gave him a job as Governor of Venice. That is way below Kingship. :p You hit the nail on the head though, the Savoys are shaking in their loafers ATM. However, Austria/Germany isn't a totally stable state yet, and there are still issues with it that need to be resolved. (And by 'issues' I mean Hohenzollerns.)

Thanks for the compliment though!
 
He didn't put himself as an equal, he just gave him a job as Governor of Venice. That is way below Kingship. :p You hit the nail on the head though, the Savoys are shaking in their loafers ATM. However, Austria/Germany isn't a totally stable state yet, and there are still issues with it that need to be resolved. (And by 'issues' I mean Hohenzollerns.)

Thanks for the compliment though!

He did, not supresing and going in that pony show so publically, rule of symbolism.

Frederick William IV will not care as long the Hasburg and Frankfurt not say anything how he rule prussia, via wikipedia:

The King's refusal was rooted in his Romantic aspiration to re-establish the medieval Holy Roman Empire, comprising smaller, semi-sovereign monarchies under the limited authority of a Habsburg emperor. Therefore Frederick William would only accept the imperial crown after being elected by the German princes, as per the former empire's ancient customs.[4] He expressed this sentiment in a letter to his sister the Empress Alexandra Feodorovna of Russia, in which he said the Frankfurt Parliament had overlooked that "in order to give, you would first of all have to be in possession of something that can be given."[5] In the king's eyes, only a reconstituted College of Electors could possess such authority.[6] With the failed attempt by the Frankfurt Parliament to include the Habsburgs into a newly unified German Empire, the Parliament turned to Prussia
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_William_IV_of_Prussia

Even Bismarck who is a important prussia stateman, will try to use frankfurt system for prussia and himself and with prussia being as powerful as austria, and remember, Franz Joseph is like FWIV so both would used tha to rule via neo absolutism under minor conservative democracy, the irony in the timeline, frankfurt unify germany but make it even more conservative that before.

So Hohenzollern will not care, just consolidating their ground and asking Austria being the 'leader of german army' when austria in trieste and kiel can be the leader of german navy
 

Curt Jester

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He did, not supresing and going in that pony show so publically, rule of symbolism.

Frederick William IV will not care as long the Hasburg and Frankfurt not say anything how he rule prussia, via wikipedia:


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_William_IV_of_Prussia

Even Bismarck who is a important prussia stateman, will try to use frankfurt system for prussia and himself and with prussia being as powerful as austria, and remember, Franz Joseph is like FWIV so both would used tha to rule via neo absolutism under minor conservative democracy, the irony in the timeline, frankfurt unify germany but make it even more conservative that before.

So Hohenzollern will not care, just consolidating their ground and asking Austria being the 'leader of german army' when austria in trieste and kiel can be the leader of german navy

Not being violent isn't lowering himself, it's not being a complete autocratic mess. He told them that he'd storm the city if they didn't surrender, but by giving them a chance he gained respect - something the Habsburgs didn't get IOTL because of how they handled things like that.

The Hohenzollerns will care. Frederick IV might've supported the Habsburgs in theory, but the Prussians aren't gonna meekly sit by while their arch-rival becomes the dominant power in Europe. Freddy won't be in charge for too much longer anyways.
 
Not being violent isn't lowering himself, it's not being a complete autocratic mess. He told them that he'd storm the city if they didn't surrender, but by giving them a chance he gained respect - something the Habsburgs didn't get IOTL because of how they handled things like that.

The Hohenzollerns will care. Frederick IV might've supported the Habsburgs in theory, but the Prussians aren't gonna meekly sit by while their arch-rival becomes the dominant power in Europe. Freddy won't be in charge for too much longer anyways.

I think was the opposite but i'm thinking more WW1 time them, the rest was fine so far, zero objections in that front.

As say before, as long nobody mess with prussia or prussian army, the hohenzollern will keep quiet even agreed with the union, plus Freddy still have a lot of time till his stroke(10 year at least) so thing would be quiet in prussian front, as long the hasburg not want a direct war with the hohenzollenrn
 

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[Map of the Kingdom of Lombardy-Venetia in 1849, at the beginning of Maximilian I's reign]

Part II

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"Choosing to crown himself with the Iron Crown of Lombardy was surely a tactic to incite patriotism and prove himself as the legitimate King over Milan. And it worked, oh yes, it most definitely worked." - Professor Benji Delamara, A Modern History of the Italian State

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A month after the Treaty of San Marco and the dissolution of the Republic of San Marco, Maximilian's coronation was held in Milan.

The coronation itself, like many things, was his mother's idea. Archduchess Sophia had pushed Franz to send the Iron Crown of Lombardy to Milan (heavily guarded, of course) and to use it as a symbol of Maximilian's legitimacy as King of Lombardy-Venetia in order to help quell the rioting. She knew it would be a snub towards the Savoy family, who were beginning to push themselves as the champions of the Italian peninsula. Maximilian, an Italian romantic himself, was more than happy to take it. The Iron Crown of Lombardy had a long and historic past, and was heavily tied to the royalty in Italy. It was said to be forged from one of the very nails Christ was crucified with. The crown was used in Charlemagne's coronation as King of the Lombards! And almost every Holy Roman Emperor would used the crown to be crowned King of Italy on their way to Rome to be crowned Emperor. Indeed, it added a powerful layer of legibility to the new Kingdom, as well as pleased the Italians who realized this new nation was very much independent from Austria. As pleasing the Italians became a number one goal for the new King, instead of it being a private event, the citizens of the Kingdom were all invited to watch the coronation of their new King. Royal heads of states from all over Europe attended. King Victor Emmanuel II of Piedmont-Sardinia did not attend, despite being invited. Held in the courtyard of the Royal Palace of Milan, it was to be a grand party to celebrate Maximilian's ascension. Many people, nobles and commonfolk alike showed up and partook in the celebrating, even those who did not care about the new King (as a free party is a free party, no?). Sometime near the beginning of the celebrating, everyone's attention was called to the temporarily built stage in the middle of the courtyard, and the crowd gathered around to watch as their new King was crowned.

"I would like to say something." Maximilian announced, and waited a few moments for the attention to fully be on him. "I understand the past few months - years, even - have been rough. Indeed the fate of Milan has never been certain, always passing from one hand to another. From French to Austrian to French once more. That ends, however. I intent to bring stability to this city, as well as the rest of the Kingdom. I understand most of you are wary. Austrians and Italians do not have the greatest record of cooperation. But know this: I only have the best interests of the people and the Kingdom in mind. No longer are you under the thumb of distant Emperors or Kings."

Afterward the Bishop symbolically placed crown on the Kings head as all the onlookers watched.

"By the Grace of God, Ferdinand Maximilian, King of Lombardy and Venetia!"

Small groups in the crowd, mostly that of his relatives, began clapping. Daniele Manin, after a short hesitation, began clapping as well. Slowly the people in the crowd followed suit, until the courtyard was full of clapping. Already he had set a good precedent in his ruling by peacefully approaching the rebels in Venetia instead of continuing the war. The way he gave Daniele Manin full amnesty, and on top of that, a job, had pleased the rebels in Venice greatly. And the people realized it wasn't a perfect situation, but they weren't sure what to make of their new King as of yet, and some decided to wait and see. A group of drunken Milanese nobles had joked that if all Austrian parties were as fun as the coronation, they'd be just fine with the new order. But although he was young, and not against partying his heart out, Maximilian knew he had work to do. His distant cousin, Leopold II, Grand Duke of Tuscany was one of the attendees of the coronation, and Maximilian planned to have a talk with him before the end of the celebration.

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"It is an interesting proposal, my dear cousin." The Grand Duke of Tuscany, Leopold II, said before he let out a belch. Maximilian scrunched up his nose in disgust.

Leopold was a strange man to say the least. To Maximilian's distaste he was very informal, most likely from his less-than-royal upbringing. The belching was just the beginning. Maximilian watched as Leopold greedily attacked the turkey leg he was gnawing on. He either didn't know or didn't care that the juices from the meat were leaking down his chin. Frankly, it disgusted Maximilian. However, Leopold was very liberal minded, similar to Maximilian himself. He was well beloved by the people of his lands, and he placed himself as an Italian before a Habsburg. Maximilian found that to both be intriguing and worrying. His overarching plan relied on his lesser cousins in Italy to agree to be subservient to himself; if Leopold agreed with him, it was almost guaranteed that the rest of the minor duchies in Italy would as well. But if the Grand Duke decided to disagree or throw in the towel with the Savoys, it all would be for naught.

"Interesting?"

"Why, yes, interesting. You come to power less than two months ago. Your 'Kingdom' is basically just a limb the Austrians decided to chop off so that your older brother could climb even higher on the ladder of power. You've basically become his stepping stone," The Grand Duke laughed, and Maximilian supposed he was right, "However, you have managed to negotiate a surrender of the Venetian rogues and reclaim a crown that you know will incite the people with patriotic furor - not to mention that while reclaiming that crown, you throw a grand fiesta, inviting the commonfolk to join as if they were nobility. You're one of a kind, Ferdinand Maximilian, which is why I must admit I am seriously considering your offer."

In that moment, King Ferdinand Maximilian realized he had won over the Grand Duke to his side. And with Tuscany on his side, it would be nothing to convince the smaller Habsburg dukes to join as well. Indeed, everything was working out exactly as planned.

Rainer Ferdinand, who had been quiet so far, finally spoke. "Well, if you're on board, we need to arrange a meeting with the other Dukes. I can't see them declining to join in on these plans if the two biggest players have already decided to go forth with them."

"Yes." Maximilian nodded. "Arrange the conference to take place a month from now."

"Well, that leaves only one thing left then, doesn't it?" Leopold raised his glass of wine. "To our dear cousin King Maximilian, and a bright future for all of Italy."

The other two men raised their goblets as well. "To a bright future for all of Italy!"

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In the summer of 1849, just after his coronation, King Ferdinand Maximilian I began plans to create an 'Italian Federation'. With help of his distant cousin, Grand Duke Leopold II, he roped up the other smaller duchies belonging to the Habsburg cadet branches into it. This Federation would be heavily based on the German Empire of Maximilian's elder brother. Over the first few years of his reign, Maximilian worked endlessly towards this Federation, and in 1850, it was finalized. King Ferdinand Maximilian made the terms of this agreement quite clear: while the Federation (made of up Lombardy-Venetia, Tuscany, Parma, Lucca and Modena) would work together, as a single state under himself, they all would keep their rulers, and their internal matters would stay internal. Only foreign relations were up to the Lombard-Venetians alone. The military was the combined efforts of all the armies in the Federation, while led up by the Lombard-Venetians. This Federation greatly strengthened the Habsburg position in Italy, and greatly angered the Savoys. Border skirmishes and threats increased ninefold between the two Kingdoms. This would lead to the short War of 1850, where a diplomatic incident between the two led to an attempted naval blockade of the Federation's west coast ports. The blockade ended when a fleet from Venetia reached the western Mediterranean and sank two Piedmontese vessels. The Piedmontese quickly retaliated by capturing Massa, which almost led to a total war between the two, until Prime Minister Rainer meditated between the two Kings and managed to get a peace settlement - Milan would pay half the price of each ship in reparations, while Turin would leave Massa and pay for the repairs on the city. Although the peace had been brokered, the tensions continued.

 
So this begin, waiting for the war with the savoys and negotiating with the bourbons in two sicilies, later just convice the pope either deal the 'rabble' alone or joing the federation,.

The rest have been fine, but avoid characther dialouge, simple not feel right, feels so informal, more like modern day actors talking...
 
This makes two (or three?) current alt-Risorgimento TLs running at the moment.

And I LOVE it. Keep it up! Sub'd!
 

Curt Jester

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This makes two (or three?) current alt-Risorgimento TLs running at the moment.

And I LOVE it. Keep it up! Sub'd!

Thanks dude! :D

So this begin, waiting for the war with the savoys and negotiating with the bourbons in two sicilies, later just convice the pope either deal the 'rabble' alone or joing the federation,.

The rest have been fine, but avoid characther dialouge, simple not feel right, feels so informal, more like modern day actors talking...

Well, it's not gonna be so simple or so easy - this isn't going to be a wank, and many things will go wrong for the Habsburgs.

Thanks, but I don't think i'm going to take out the character dialogue. It's a big part of my writing style, and I personally don't feel like it dampens or hurts the TL.
 
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