Challenge: Eurasian Empire
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Max Sinister
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No Einstein, the bomb is not invented, after WW2 Russia unites with China, invades Western Europe and kicks out the GIs. When all of Eurasia is conquered, Stalin considers his mission accomplished.
Well a nation that does this would probally rule the entire world.
So Britain is your best bet- no American revolution, the empire continues being highly liberal, the other European powers get crushed and turned to democracy at some point. Towards the modern day a peaceful convergance to a world wide federation.
So Britain is your best bet- no American revolution, the empire continues being highly liberal, the other European powers get crushed and turned to democracy at some point. Towards the modern day a peaceful convergance to a world wide federation.
Max Sinister
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No, he said, the POD wouldn't matter.
And unless the empire could make its inhabitants like it, lots of their power would be tied down. Read: Uprisings, secessions, revolutions.
And unless the empire could make its inhabitants like it, lots of their power would be tied down. Read: Uprisings, secessions, revolutions.
Use any POD we like? Does that mean we can use a POD that's after 1900 as well?
If so then your most likely chance for a 'Eurasian Empire' is the continued growth of the European Union until it morphs into something much larger encompassing Russia, China and India as well. Or possibly something that begins as a precursor to World Government.
Oh, and incase anyone was wondering, this is what Eurasia would look like:
If so then your most likely chance for a 'Eurasian Empire' is the continued growth of the European Union until it morphs into something much larger encompassing Russia, China and India as well. Or possibly something that begins as a precursor to World Government.
Oh, and incase anyone was wondering, this is what Eurasia would look like:
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Glen
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zoomar said:
I agree. The Mongols would be the most likely...they almost pulled it off OTL. Give some more longevity to Genghis Khan and his family, and maybe at some point relatively early have them decide that Primogeniture was the way to go, add in some good weather for invasions of Japan and the British Isles, and we might see an Eurasian empire by 1300. Probably wouldn't hold together too well, but for perhaps a few generations there would exist the greatest land empire the world has ever known.
Max Sinister
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Glen Finney said:
Let's just hope they don't try to use Rhine barges :-D
Sorry, I simply had to make this joke.
I suggested a similar PoD
Where Russia joins the EU after Canada joins.
I know such a union will have a lot of "American" territory, but who said an Eurasian empire can't have some colonies as well?
Being that the Canadians would still form a small minority, most of the powers of such a union will still be in Eurasia, rather than America.
Oh you want it to be an Empire?
Well, have the EU more integrated (this will probably happen in the near future anyhow), and an anti-democratic leader voted into power (or a military coup of a united eurasian military), and you have yourself a sort of empire.
Where Russia joins the EU after Canada joins.
I know such a union will have a lot of "American" territory, but who said an Eurasian empire can't have some colonies as well?
Being that the Canadians would still form a small minority, most of the powers of such a union will still be in Eurasia, rather than America.
Oh you want it to be an Empire?
Well, have the EU more integrated (this will probably happen in the near future anyhow), and an anti-democratic leader voted into power (or a military coup of a united eurasian military), and you have yourself a sort of empire.
Glen Finney said:
A problem for the Mongols - as Floid's map points out - is Iceland. It is routinely grouped with "Europe" in Atlases, but I think that is more a function of cultural history than geography. If the Norse had never colonized it, Iceland could just as easily be considered its own thing (like the Hawaiian Islands or Australasia).
Max Sinister
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Or you could group it to America. Which distance is greater, actually - Greenland-Iceland or Iceland-Faröer?