Brits in Luzon(Pagan Dawn)

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"On early 18th century the pagans and hindus in old Saludong not touched by the Spanish and resisting against the Spanish who occupied the coastal areas, were able to thrive despite of the famine that happened in the 18th century, the pagans were zealous and some did puputan or suicide at any humiliating defeat with the Spanish and even allied with the dutch and despite that they were able to thrive against all odds"

~anonymous

this is just like my other TL Kingdom of Poland in Silesia but more expanded.

 

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Taal Lake and Pansipit, the Pansipit channel would remain wide, TTL


The dawn of the pagans

On early 18th century the pagans and hindus in old Saludong not touched by the Spanish and resisting against the Spanish who occupied the coastal areas, were able to thrive despite of the famine that happened in the 18th century, the pagans were zealous, and some did puputan or suicide at any humiliating defeat with the Spanish and even allied with the dutch in the previous century and despite that they were able to thrive against all odds.

the pagans in the Northern Philippines yet to be completely controlled by the Spanish recover from the famine that decimated them in 1700’s and reproduced like rabbits, the famine would also not really affect the Kapampangans and Ibanags would recover as well as they are minorly affected by the famine as well.

The Pagans are supposedly decimated by the famines and the pagans said that they are blessed by the old gods as they want to believe, and bountiful harvests afterwards would make them believe that they are blessed due to them surviving famine which would give them more vigor than the Christians at that time, the pagans would also reproduce like rabbits later and return to the town of Tubigaraw and Ilagan in the mid reaches of the Kagayan River and the pagans would also repopulate in the mid reaches of the Pampanga river.

This was during the time that the Pagans would never be affected by the famine is the time after the Spanish succession have been finished.

The pagans would have considered and glorified the 1750’s activity of Taal which is said to be the work of Apo Laki, the Saludongese name for the gods Shiva and Indra which would further envigorate the pagans and hindus in their raids against the Spanish.

 

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Diego Silang monument

Diego Silang Revolt
“Spain allied with France during the Seven Years' War, in opposition to Great Britain. The British in response sought to diminish the Spanish Empire. The seizure of Manila by British naval forces in October 1762, and the subsequent surrender of the Spanish Philippines to Britain during the British occupation of the Philippines, inspired uprisings in the farthest north of Ilocos Norte and Cagayan, where anti-Spanish sentiments festered. Though Silang initially wanted to replace Spanish functionaries in the Ilocos with native-born officials and volunteered to head Ilocano forces against the British, desperate Spanish administrators instead transferred their powers to the Catholic Bishop of Nueva Segovia (Vigan), who rejected Silang's offer. Silang's group attacked the city and imprisoned its priests. He then began an association with the British who appointed him governor of the Ilocos on their behalf and promised him military reinforcement.”

-Freepedia

The revolt of both Palaris and Diego Silang would end up as failures as the british would give up on Manila, the population of the Saludongese who clashed with the Spanish would not support the Silang revolt because of its ethnic character.

Even though the Spanish would execute both Palaris and Diego Silang and the British abandon manila the Pagans would be a threat to the Spanish as well as those converted by the Anglicans which would lead to the decay of the Spanish control in the region, who would ally with the British who would remain to have interests in Saludong, the Pagan revitalization would cause the Spanish control in Saludong to start to collapse in 1750 and advanced in the british occupation of Manila.

The Spanish control in Coastal Saludong would completely collapse in Coastal Saludong in 1770 and a government would be formed led by Saludongese nobles, the cities of Aparri and Macabebe become dutch port cities after the Spanish got expelled in Saludong decades after the expulsion of the Spanish in 1790.

What the Spanish would remain to have in the North is Meycauayan area which would be their borderland which is not stable, this area would be the new border of the Spanish colony.

 

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A view of Sulu Sea


Spanish resurgence

On late 18th century with the lands of Saludong are gone from Spanish control, the remaining nobility of the Philippines would be the ones loyal to the Spanish which means the revolts against the Spanish are gone and Spanish rule and the Spanish control in the Philippines would be stable and the country would have a rise in stability of the Spanish rule and the Spanish would defeat the Dagohoy revolt in 1810 due to weight of Saludong in their shoulders was relieved.

The Hindu Indian workers would migrate to Saludong and Indian immigration to Saludong would increase and increase the British influence in Saludong and the Chinese would not want to immigrate to Saludong and the Chinese would want to immigrate to the Spanish held Philippines which would assimilate to the Hispanicized upper class of the Spanish held Philippines, many of the Hindus would migrate to inner part of Saludong where in they will mix with the Hindus and Pagans living there.

It has been said the Chinese were scourge to the Spanish but the Chinese would improve the Spanish Philippines’ economy later on which would help the Spanish colony stay afloat and remain desirable to the Spanish.

The Indian influence in Saludong and the Chinese influence in the Philippines would move the difference of the two countries in a way that it is similar to night and day and due to this, the Philippines and the Land of Saludong which was lost from Spanish control, the Indians and influence would predominate in Saludong except in Ilocos where in there are lots of Sangley Mestizos or mixed with Chinese who are increasing in population as well, however due to the expansion in Population of the Hindus of Saludong they would have nowhere to expand to in Saludong which would create future tensions in Population.

The people of Saludong would be staunchly Anti-Chinese and very much pro-Indian and it would be the Samaritan Ilocanos who would support the Chinese in Saludong, many of the Chinese in Saludong in Ilocos were purged by the elites in Saludong.

 

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A disinherited heir

After the birth of a son with the King of France, Louis Joseph Xavier Francis, Marie Antoinette would gain the notoriety of her affairs and her décolletage in her own outfits on 1783, Marie Antoinette would be expelled from the court, she would be seen with count Fersen which would lead to Louis XVI requesting an annulment with her, Fersen would give Marie Antoinette more children named Francis, Fersen b. 1784 and Sophie Fersen in 1789.

The siblings of Louis XVI would ally with Robbespiere against Marie Antoinette and her children, which would lead to the revolters and the royalists to make a compromise with the royals in having the estates have more rule in France, on the death of Louis XVI on 1790, the son of the King of France, Dauphin Louis would be denied of succession in favor of his own brother who would succeed as Louis XVII which would make constable Bonaparte technically the ruler of France but in name in the late 1790’s, no one would recognize the claims of the son of Marie Antoinette because he is believed to be the illegitimate son of Marie Antoinette nicknamed as Louis Fersenot.

The turmoil in the French court would lead to Louis XVII to be deposed by Napoleon in 1804 who would be known as a great leader in history who conquered many lands of his rival neighbors before his demise in 1814, which led to the restoration of the Bourbons and the Congress of Vienna.

 

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Ships in Manila bay, a painting

Novales Revolt

From Freepedia

“Novales' discontent with the way Spanish authorities treated creoles later grew, reaching its climax when peninsulars were shipped to the Philippines to replace creole officers. He found sympathy of many Creoles, including Luis Rodríguez Varela, the Conde Filipino. As punishment for this dissent, many military officers and public officials were exiled, including Novales, who was exiled to Mindanao to fight pirates. Undeterred, he secretly returned to Manila.

The revolt is inspired by Napoleonic revolt and the liberals in Spain.

On the night of June 1, 1823, Novales along with a certain sub-lieutenant Ruiz and other subordinates in the King's Regiment, went out to start a revolt. Along with 800 Filipinos in which his sergeants recruited, they seized the Governor-General's Palace, the Manila Cathedral, the city's cabildo (city hall) and other important government buildings in Intramuros.

Failing to find Juan Antonio Martínez, they killed the lieutenant governor and former governor general, Mariano Fernandez de Folgueras. Folgueras was the one that suggested Spain to replace creole officers with peninsulars. The soldiers shouted ¡Viva el Emperador Novales! ("Long live the Emperor Novales!"). Surprisingly, the townsfolk followed Novales and his troops as they marched into Manila. They eventually failed to seize Fort Santiago because Andrés' brother Mariano, who commanded the citadel, refused to open its gates. Authorities rushed soldiers to the fort upon learning that it was still holding out against the rebels. Novales himself was caught hiding under the Puerta Real by Spanish soldiers.

At 5:00 pm of June 2, Novales, Ruiz, and 21 sergeants were executed by firing squad in a garden near Puerta del Postigo. In his last minutes, Novales declared that he and his comrades shall set an example of fighting for freedom. Mariano was initially to be executed as well for being Andrés' brother, but the crowd pleaded for his freedom with the argument that he had saved the government from being overthrown. Mariano received a monthly pension of ₱14, but went mad after the execution. “

 

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Straits of Malacca


The Spanish Australia and the Anglo-Dutch treaty

On 1790, the Spanish would conquer the fledgling colony of Australia due to their interests in the east, which was easily done due to the British still new to colonizing new lands.

The Spanish would win and sign peace with the British and their peace settlement would be the Spanish selling their hold in the plains of Saludong to the British, this would lead to future conflict between the Dutch and the British as the two have plans in the Indies and the Spanish would retain a more peaceful and manageable Philippines.

The Anglo-Dutch treaty of 1824 holds that subjects of the two nations are permitted to trade in territories of British India, Ceylon based on "most favored nation" but must obey local regulations. It limits the fees that may be charged on the subjects and ships of the other nation. They also agree not to make any further treaties with Eastern states that exclude trade with the other nation. They agree not to use their civil and military forces to hinder trade. They agree to oppose piracy and not provide hiding places or protection to pirates or allow the sale of pirated goods. They agree that their local officials cannot open new offices on East Indies islands without permission from their government in Europe, this treaty was made to end the disputes of the Dutch with the British on India and the Malay Archipelago.

The terms of the treaty are as follows

*British subjects to be given trade access with the Maluku Islands, in particular with Ambon, Banda and Ternate.

*The Netherlands cedes all of its establishments on the Indian subcontinent (Dutch India from 1609) and any rights associated with them.

*The UK cedes its factory of Fort Marlborough in Bencoolen (Bengkulu) and all its property on the island of Sumatra to the Netherlands and will not establish another office on the island or make any treaty with its rulers.

*The Netherlands cedes the city and fort of Malacca and agrees not to open any office on the Malay peninsula or make any treaty with its rulers.

*Netherlands cedes Aparri and Macabebe to the British and agrees not to open any office in Saludong.

*The UK withdraws its opposition to the occupation of the island of Billiton by the Netherlands.

*The Netherlands withdraws its opposition to the occupation of the island of Singapore by the UK.

*The UK agrees not to establish any office on the Carimon Islands or on the islands of Batam, Bintan, Lingin, or any of the other islands south of the strait of Singapore, or to make any treaties with the rulers of these places.

All the transfers of property and establishments were to take place on February 20, 1825. They agreed that the return of Java to the Netherlands, as according to a Convention on Java of 20 June 1817, had been settled, apart from a sum of 100,000 pounds sterling to be paid by the Netherlands in London before the end of 1825. The treaty was ratified by the UK on May 1, 1824 and by the Netherlands on July 20, 1824.

 

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@Timaeus @Simeon

The rest of the Philippines might remain under the Spanish for longer in this TL..

 

[Simeon]

@Timaeus @Simeon

The rest of the Philippines might remain under the Spanish for longer in this TL..

So, what will be thethe prime city of the Spanish Philippines? I doubt that they can maintain a stable colony if they insisted on Manila.

 

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So, what will be thethe prime city of the Spanish Philippines? I doubt that they can maintain a stable colony if they insisted on Manila.

They still have Manila, but they lost Saludong or Northern Luzon..the border is in Meycauayan province aka Bulacan.

 

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Apo Laki’s blessing

On the late 18th century to early 19th century the pagans who have retreated in population would have increased gradually, the language of Irraya would absorb and merge with Karaklan, Isinay, Ifugao, Gaddang and Bukid and also the Agta, Arta and Alta languages would be merged into one, the arta, alta and agta languages would merge to form the Saludongese or Selurongese language which is basically a blend of the old Ifugao and Irraya languages, the Pagans would continue their recovery from the time they reemerged from the famine in the mid 18th century to early 19th century and the Christians would be a minority in the mid-reaches of Cagayan River and Pampanga river and Tarlac due to the pagans flourishing more and more, the pagans would increase rivaling the Ilocano population and eventually forcing assimilation of the Ilocanos settled in the area, however that would not mean that at that time the language would be standardized.

The Protestants, NeoMuslims in Saludong and Catholic Ilocanos would be settled around the coasts of Saludong except for the Itawis area where there is a native catholic population and not swamped by the Pagans.

What happened is said to be that it is Apo Laki’s blessing that Saludong has recovered from the famine and has expelled the Spanish completely, the Christians, especially the Ibanags and Kapampangans would either revert to Islam or convert to Protestantism except for the Ilocano population of Saludong and the Itawis population of the mid reaches of the Cagayan River.

 

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Saludong satelite map

Saludong Rajahs

The British have bought the Dutch rights to Saludong earlier via a treaty and the Saludong would elect Robert Brooke, a brother of the Sarawakian Rajah as its own ruler after a number of rulers, who are known in name only since the expulsion of the Spanish in the lowlands of Saludong, those rulers became puppets of the Dutch in 1790’s due to the acquisition of ports but after the transfer to Britain the rulers became more independent but the replacement of the ruler with Robert Brooke would make Saludong basically a part of the British Empire, Robert Brooke would declare the Saludongese Rajahnate in the same lieu as his brother Thomas Brooke and established Victoria, formerly known as Binalatongan in Pangasinan as the seat of Government, the town was renamed Victoria in honor of the heir to the British throne.

Princess Victoria would summon Francisco Balagtas in her court as her own court poet til his death in 1840 when she is queen.

Meanwhile Sulu and Maguindanao would also go into British influence but Maguindanao would be greatfully influenced by the Spanish and the Spanish held Philippines would remain loyal to the Spanish as well.

 

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Note Benigno Aquino jr would still exist in this timeline..but not married to Cory..

 

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I think the rest of the Philippines might end up hispanicized thoroughly or end up remaining under the Spanish in the present in this timeline.

 

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America’s Taiwan

On 1800, the Dutch would buy Taiwan from the Qing restoring their old hold in Taiwan and after the time the Rights to Saludong were ceded to the British, the Dutch would prioritize Taiwan as their bridge to Japan lived and gained the Batan archipelago near Saludong as well.

Due to the Anglo-Dutch treaty the Dutch are expelled in Saludong in 1820’s which would lead to the Dutch focusing on ruling Taiwan instead and Batan Archipelago was not part of the treaty with the British, the Americans would clash with the Dutch in the 1830’s and would annex the Dutch Taiwan and Dejima from the Dutch giving the Americans the rule of Taiwan and the Batan Archipelago.

The Opium War (第一次鴉片戰爭), also known as the Opium War or the Anglo-Chinese War, was a series of military engagements fought between the United Kingdom and the Qing dynasty over conflicting viewpoints on diplomatic relations, trade, and the administration of justice in China.

In the 17th and 18th centuries demand for Chinese goods (particularly silk, porcelain, and tea) in Europe created a trade imbalance between Qing Imperial China and Great Britain. European silver flowed into China through the Canton System, which confined incoming foreign trade to the southern port city of Canton. To counter this imbalance, the British East India Company began to auction opium grown in India to independent foreign traders in exchange for silver, and in doing so strengthened its trading influence in Asia. This opium was transported to the Chinese coast, where local middlemen made massive profits selling the drug inside China.The influx of narcotics reversed the Chinese trade surplus, drained the economy of silver, and increased the numbers of opium addicts inside the country, outcomes that worried Chinese officials.

The Americans would support the Chinese against the British in the Opium wars causing the defeat of the British in the Opium wars.

On 1850, Mathew Perry would be able to have the congress of America to approve the plan to make a trading plan with the Chinese which would benefit their own country, which would be benefiting both the Qing and the Japanese, the Americans would treat Taiwan as a way to get access to Qing China.

The Americans would ally with the Qing against the British in the Opium wars which would benefit both the Americans and the Qing in the long term

This would mean that the Americans would have a colony near china like the Spanish which would give them enough power to project power in the Pacific.

 

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I added a few ideas on the thread, I hope I can write a new update for this.