Brazil receives a Littorio battleship as reparation

Considering the money needed to keep such vessels battleworthy, it seems likely that they rot at a pier for twenty years before being scrapped.
 
Isn't much about Brazil purchasing surplus warships, its more about receiving war spoils from a defeated Italy. The US and UK received italian battleships, despite having a massive navy, and scrapped them. If Brazil had a chance to receive spoils, it would probably accept due prestige and because it's a spoil.

But what Brazil had to do to be elegible for such spoils?
Even if they get it for free, they'd be paying for it in terms of crewing, resources ,training etc for a very long time.

Plus they'll have to adapt their navy to one which has a battleship in it including having plans for it because it's too much of a resource sink to have an not have plans for. Plus battleships now have well established counters that they will need to address is the battleship is going to bee part of the plan.

Honestly I dont think they'd take even if it was offered.
 
Plus they'll have to adapt their navy to one which has a battleship in it including having plans for it because it's too much of a resource sink to have an not have plans for. Plus battleships now have well established counters that they will need to address is the battleship is going to bee part of the plan.
Brazil did not scrap their two Minas Geraes-class battleships until the 1950s. During World War 2 Brazil used the battleships as coastal defence ships because they were unmodernized and in poor repair, but they were commissioned. So Brazil did have a tradition of a dreadnought navy.
 
Brazil did not scrap their two Minas Geraes-class battleships until the 1950s. During World War 2 Brazil used the battleships as coastal defence ships because they were unmodernized and in poor repair, but they were commissioned. So Brazil did have a tradition of a dreadnought navy.
Right but this after WW2 right? I don't think they'll be looking for more (but fair play even if they did use them as coastal defense gun platforms they did have them!)

Given the Sao Paolo sank on the way to be scrapped in 1951 I don't think Brazil is really looking to extend it's battleship capabilities here.

A;so the Giulio Cesare saw some pretty serious rebuild that does put it a cut above the Geraes class
 
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Brazil could get Littorio, Argentina could get Vittorio Veneto, and Chile could get Nagato.
Pfft. No way the USA would give 16-inchers to South American navies. Not even the Soviet Union got that. More likely, but still quite unlikely, would be the US Navy commissioning 3 Alaskas during WWII and passing them on to Brazil, Argentina and Chile in the 1950s.
Brazil did not scrap their two Minas Geraes-class battleships until the 1950s. During World War 2 Brazil used the battleships as coastal defence ships because they were unmodernized and in poor repair, but they were commissioned. So Brazil did have a tradition of a dreadnought navy.
They weren't unmodernized, but they were dated, yes(IIRC, São Paulo got a modernization in the 1920s, and Minas Gerais got one in the 1930s). Minas Gerais was in much better condition than São Paulo in 1940(again, IIRC).
 
Given IOTL the British did everything they could to stop any of the Littorios being sent to the USSR (including an indefinite loan of an R class BB) and the USSR was rather further up the totem poll on the reparations front than Brazil... Highly unlikely to happen given roughly OTL actions.

Given an earlier and/or more active involvement (say the Germans get more torpedo happy than OTL in late-1940 and early 1941...) or the loss of a BB or Cruiser in action (not blown up by accident well after the fall of Berlin...) maybe they'd be able to wrangle one of the poms' surplus BBs (one of the QEs?) or an Italian cruiser?
 
maybe they'd be able to wrangle one of the poms' surplus BBs (one of the QEs?) or an Italian cruiser?

Any of the QEs still in any shape to do anything? Barham is sunk, Warspite is as good as sunk, Valiant is badly damaged due to a dry dock accident, Malaya never was updated and has been an accommodation ship, and may not be fit for service, so only QE herself might be up.
 
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