An Alternate 1984 NBA Draft

Should the Spurs relocate? Where to?

  • No (stay in San Antonio)

    Votes: 5 41.7%
  • Yes (St. Louis)

    Votes: 6 50.0%
  • Yes (New Orleans)

    Votes: 1 8.3%

  • Total voters
    12
  • Poll closed .
B St Louis Spirits.

I am a lifelong Pittsburgh sports fan, but an NBA expansion team at this time would either fail or lead to the Penguins failing. The Igloo was almost ready to collapse in the 1980s, would've been one of smallest arenas in the NBA, and because the area is diehard in support of the Steelers it just doesnt have the population for 3 other major sports team. Minneapolis is a much better location for an expansion NBA team, or Orlando or San Antonio for that matter.

In addition, Montreal with the political turmoil and weak Canadian dollar would likely have performed worse than Vancouver. Although they might avoid drafting Big Country.
You know Kansas City Penguins sounds pretty good...
 
You know Kansas City Penguins sounds pretty good...
The owner threatened to move to team to Hamilton before they drafted Mario. I do think KC would be a great location for an NHL team, especially after the Kings move to Sacramento....

Other possible relocation spots for the Penguins include Cleveland, Milwaukee, Seattle, Denver, Portland...maybe even Minnesota if the North Stars still move to Dallas...
 
Other possible relocation spots for the Penguins include Cleveland, Milwaukee, Seattle, Denver, Portland...maybe even Minnesota if the North Stars still move to Dallas...
I love the nickname of DenPen. Plus it might save Quebec:). In IAD80 I save the Jets by giving them Doug Wickenheiser(Who isn't a bust in that timeline). Maybe in this I can save Quebec?
 
B --

Also, I have some questions. Does Brian Shaw still go to Italy since Boston has still drafted him? Also how did the expansion draft for the new teams go? Who is on their rosters?
Yeah Brian Shaw still goes to Italy, and as far as I could tell the expansion draft selection stayed pretty much the same as OTL. The only two change changes I had was Miami getting Otis Birdsong instead of Darnell Valentine, and Bill Wennington instead of Andre Turner but those are pretty insignificant changes.
 
1989 NBA Finals
Los Angeles Lakers vs Cleveland Cavaliers

Game One


The Cavaliers took a four point lead into the fourth. The Lakers threatened to take the lead multiple times, but the Cleveland kept hitting clutch shots to maintain it. Barkley was terrific down the stretch including a big shot with under a minute to ice it. Barkley finished the game with 43 points and 18 rebounds.

Cleveland - 103 vs Los Angeles - 97


Game Two

Heading into the 4th the Lakers had a seven point lead. This lead was quickly cut into and taken by Cleveland. Both teams traded buckets throughout the final minutes. Cleveland was up by as many as seven at one point. But Los Angeles would chip away and take the lead with 20 seconds left on a Byron Scott three. A big stop on defense and free throws would give LA Game Two.

Los Angeles - 111 vs Cleveland - 108


Game Three

It was a six point lead for Cleveland heading into the final quarter. Cleveland maintained a lead above five throughout the quarter until a late run by LA in the final minutes was capped off with Magic Johnson giving them the lead on a layup. Charles Barkley answered with a bucket of his own but James Worthy hit a jumper on the other side and that was enough as LA would complete the comeback and win Game Three.

Los Angeles - 120 vs Cleveland - 118


Game Four

Cleveland again took the lead heading into the final quarter. At one point LA cut the lead to two but a big run by Cleveland put it at ten. LA couldn’t close the gap again as Cleveland wins Game Four and ties the series. John Stockton leads with 25 points and 16 assists.

Cleveland - 115 vs Los Angeles - 106


Game Five

Cleveland has themselves a thirteen point lead entering the 4th quarter. But it only takes a few minutes for LA to cut it to five. With just three minutes left the Lakers cut it to one. John Stockton makes free throws to extend it to three, but LA makes a shot to cut it back to one. Then a Charles Barkley dunk is answered with a Byron Scott jumper. As Cleveland leads by one with a minute left. Brad Daugherty can only make free throw, and Magic has a chance to tie it on the other end to tie it but gets called for traveling. Barkley makes free throws as Cleveland takes the 3-2 series lead. 33 points for Charles Barkley in the win.

Cleveland - 114 vs Los Angeles - 110


Game Six

Not much to talk about here as the Lakers win Game Six in blowout fashion. Big games from Magic and Byron Scott help the Lakers force Game Seven.

Los Angeles - 112 vs Cleveland - 90


Game Seven

The Lakers took a one point lead into the final quarter of the deciding Game Seven. But three unanswered buckets from Cleveland would quickly put them up three. At the halfway mark of the quarter Cleveland still had the lead but it was just two. The Lakers would score on their next two possessions to take a two point lead. But a Craig Ehlo three would give Cleveland the lead back. After the Lakers responded to tie it up, Brad Daugherty made two free throws, and threw one down on the next possession to give Cleveland a four point lead. Heading into the final minute Cleveland still had a four point lead. John Stockton made a jumper and the Cavs would make free throws down the stretch to clinch an NBA Finals win. With Charles Barkley getting injured in the 3rd quarter, Brad Daugherty stepped up and scored 28.

Cleveland - 111 vs Los Angeles - 104

NBA Champions: Cleveland Cavaliers
Finals MVP: Charles Barkley
 
1989 NBA Draft Lottery

“Welcome to the 1989 NBA Draft Lottery. Today you’ll be seeing where the newest NBA players will be beginning their careers, and also some new NBA teams. Including the expansion Minnesota Timberwolves and Orlando Magic. Also the Spurs will be moving to St. Louis next year and will officially be known henceforth as the St. Louis Spirits. Now let’s get go to commissioner David Stern to announce who will hold the 9th pick.

“The 9th pick goes to the Sacramento Kings”

So Sacramento stays put at 9 and will look to add to a solid young core.

“The 8th pick goes to the Washington Bullets”

Washington also stays at their original spot, they had the 3rd pick last year.


“The 7th pick goes to the New Jersey Nets”

So New Jersey stays at 7, they have last years ROY Mitch Richmond, and will reportedly also have 1987 top pick David Robinson debut.

“The 6th pick goes to the St. Louis Spirits”

So the former Spurs now Spirits drop a spot from 5 to 6, so that means the Indiana Pacers have jumped into the top 3.

“The 5th pick goes to the Los Angeles Clippers”

The Clippers drop all the way from 2 to 5, they had the 1st pick in last years draft.

“The 4th pick goes to the Miami Heat”

Wow the Miami Heat drop from 1 to 4, big drop there for the leagues worst team.

The 3rd pick goes to the Golden State Warriors”

So the Warriors jump from 4 to 3, they picked 4th last year. Now it’s down to Charlotte and Indiana.

“The 2nd pick goes to the Charlotte Hornets”

So the Hornets move up a spot from 3 to 2 meaning the Indiana Pacers will pick first.

“The 1st pick goes to the Indiana Pacers”

So the Pacers win the draft lottery jumping all the way from 6 to 1, Unlike previous years there is no clear top pick. So you’ll have to tune into the NBA Draft on June 27 to find out who goes first.
 
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1989 NBA Draft
June 27, 1989
Felt Forum (New York City, NY)


“Hello and welcome to the 1989 NBA Draft where we welcome future NBA stars to their new teams. The Indiana Pacers will be picking first and the thought is the first two picks will be Danny Ferry and Sean Elliot but we don’t know in what order yet. Let’s go to the commissioner to find out.

“Welcome to the 1989 NBA Draft and with the 1st pick the Indiana Pacers select Danny Ferry, Power Forward/Center, Duke.

So Danny Ferry is the first pick of the NBA Draft, I imagine he’ll play as Center for the Pacers as they have Wayman Tisdale at PF. Now it’s the Charlotte Hornets on the clock with the second pick. And the best player on the board is Sean Elliott but Charlotte doesn't have a need at SF, there are some rumors they could go with Pervis Ellison instead as they do have a need at PF.

“With the 2nd pick the Charlotte Hornets select Pervis Ellison, Forward, Louisville”

So they do make the somewhat surprising pick of Pervis Ellison over Sean Elliott. Now it’s the Warriors up and I’m sure they’re happy with Elliott falling into their lap.

“With the 3rd pick the Golden State Warriors select Sean Elliott, Small Forward, Arizona”

So the Warriors do take the Arizona star with the third pick. Now it’s Miami on the clock and they need a star in offenses. They’re reportedly between Stacey King and Glen Rice.

“With the 4th pick the Miami Heat select Glen Rice, Forward, Michigan”

So another somewhat surprising pick to go for Rice over King. Now it’s the Clippers on the clock and they have to go Stacey King here with him still on the board.

“With the 5th pick the Los Angeles Clippers select Stacey King, Center, Oklahoma”

Good pick the think there by the Clippers. Now the St. Louis Spirits are on the clock. And they don’t need a Guard here so I think it could be JR Reid.


“With the 6th pick the St. Louis Spirits select J.R. Reid, Forward, North Carolina”

So the Spirits get the big man from North Carolina. Now it’s the Nets on the clock and they already have Mitch Richmond and David Robinson and could another young star here.

With the 7th pick the New Jersey Nets select Mookie Blaylock, Guard, Oklahoma”

So New Jersey fills their biggest need at PG with Blaylock. Now it’s the Bullets on the clock.

“With the 8th pick the Washington Bullets select Randy White, Forward, Louisiana Tech”

Washington gets a young man a lot of people are comparing to another Louisiana Tech PF, Karl Malone. Now it’s Sacramento on the clock.

“With the 9th pick the Sacramento Kings select George McCloud, Guard/Forward, Florida State”

One of the best scorers in the class goes to Sacramento, now the Minnesota Timberwolves will make their first pick in franchise history.

“With the 10th pick the Minnesota Timberwolves select Tom Hammonds, Power Forward, Georgia Tech”

So Hammond is the first pick in Timberwolves history. Now Orlando has their first pick in team history.

“With the 11th pick the Orlando Magic select Nick Anderson, Forward, Illinois”

So Nick Anderson is the first draft pick for the Magic. Now Seattle is on the clock with the pick acquired from Houston.

“With the 12th pick the Seattle SuperSonics select Pooh Richardson, Guard, UCLA

Seattle takes the UCLA PG Pooh Richardson. And now Seattle is back on the board with a pick acquired from Milwaukee in the Jack Sikma trade.

“With the 13th pick the Seattle SuperSonics select Michael Smith, Forward, BYU”

So Seattle gets the big man from to add to a solid young team led by Chris Mullin. Now the Jazz are on the clock.

With the 14th pick the Utah Jazz select Tim Hardaway, Guard, UTEP”

So Utah will hope Hardaway will work out as Karl Malone is in need of a co-star in Utah. The Celtics are on the clock.


“With the 15th pick the Boston Celtics select Dana Barros, Guard, Boston College”

So the Celtics go with the hometown kid from Boston. Now it’s Denver on the clock.

“With the 16th pick the Denver Nuggets select Shawn Kemp, Forward, Concord HS”

So Denver goes with the high school kid from Indiana, interesting pick there. The Blazers are on the clock with the pick received from the Knicks.

“With the 17th pick the Portland Trailblazers select Todd Lichti, Guard, Stanford”

The Dallas Mavericks are on the clock.

“With the 18th pick the Dallas Mavericks select Kenny Payne, Forward, Louisville”

The Atlanta Hawks are on the clock.

“With the 19th pick the Atlanta Hawks select B.J. Armstrong, Guard, Iowa”

The Jazz are on the clock with a pick received from Seattle for Michael Cage.

“With the 20th pick the Utah Jazz select Blue Edwards, Forward, East Carolina”

The Nets are on the clock with a pick acquired from Portland for Buck Williams.

“With the 21st pick the New Jersey Nets select Jeff Sanders, Forward, Georgia Southern”

The Sonics are on the clock with the pick from Philadelphia.

“With the 22nd pick the Seattle SuperSonics select Byron Irvin, Guard, Missouri”

The Chicago Bulls are on the clock.

“With the 23rd pick the Chicago Bulls select John Morton, Guard, Seton Hall”

The Suns are on the clock.

“With the 24th pick the Phoenix Suns select Anthony Cook, Forward, Arizona”

The Pistons are on the clock.

“With the 25th pick the Detroit Pistons select Kenny Battle, Forward, Illinois”

The Lakers are on the clock.

“With the 26th pick the Los Angeles Lakers select Vlade Divac, Center, Yugoslavia”

The Cavaliers are on the clock.


“With the 27th pick the Cleveland Cavaliers select Roy Marble, Guard, Iowa”

And that’ll do it for our coverage of the first round of the 1989 NBA Draft. This one had a few more surprises than previous drafts. Now we look ahead to the 1990 NBA Season.
 
1989/90 NBA Season

MVP: Charles Barkley: Cleveland Cavaliers
ROY: David Robinson: New Jersey Nets
DPOY: Dennis Rodman: Phoenix Suns


Eastern Conference

Philadelphia 76ers: 58-24
Cleveland Cavaliers: 56-26
Detroit Pistons: 52-30
Chicago Bulls: 51-31
Boston Celtics: 47-35
New Jersey Nets: 43-39
New York Knicks: 42-40
Atlanta Hawks: 39-43
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Milwaukee Bucks: 37-45
Washington Bullets: 29-53

Indiana Pacers: 28-54
Orlando Magic: 18-64
Miami Heat: 17-65

Western Conference


Portland Trailblazers: 61-21
Los Angeles Lakers: 58-24
Phoenix Suns: 56-26
Dallas Mavericks: 49-33
Utah Jazz: 49-33
Denver Nuggets: 45-37
Seattle SuperSonics: 44-38
Houston Rockets: 35-47

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Los Angeles Clippers: 32-50
Sacramento Kings: 30-52
St. Louis Spirits: 26-56
Minnesota Timberwolves: 22-60
Golden State Warriors: 21-61
Charlotte Hornets: 16-66

Michael Jordan and the 76ers finish with the top record in the East. The defending champion Cavaliers led by the MVP Charles Barkley finish as the 2 seed. Detroit and Chicago come in at 3 and 4. The Celtics dynasty seems over as they finish the 5 seed. The Nets led by the last two ROY winners make the jump to the 6 seed. And New York and Atlanta finish 7 and 8. The Bucks just miss out on the playoffs. The Wizards and Pacers also miss the playoffs. And it’s two of newer teams Miami and Orlando in ten Eastern Conference basement. The Lakers time may be coming up as they lose the top seed to Portland. Phoenix finishes as the 3 seed. Dallas and Utah are 4 and 5 so will meet in the first round. Denver finishes 6 and will meet Phoenix in round one. And Seattle and Houston clinch the last two spots. The Clippers and Kings just miss out on playoff basketball. The Spirits first year in St. Louis is similar to previous ones in San Antonio as they miss the postseason again. Minnesota finishes with the best record of the new expansion teams from the last two years. Golden State has yet another poor season. And Charlotte finishes with the league’s worst record.
 
Sorry guys I’ve started getting pretty busy with baseball, the season ends Tuesday and then the updates will start coming frequently again.
 
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