I think he got confused bc usually it's winners on the left and losers on the right, but reading the top of the wikibox and the article make it clear Prussia and Italy are the losers here.
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I think he got confused bc usually it's winners on the left and losers on the right, but reading the top of the wikibox and the article make it clear Prussia and Italy are the losers here.
Oh yeah, I was just too lazy to switch them around but maybe the explanation could be that this way is the convention ITTL.
In fairness Italy is stated to have annexed Venetia and Dalmatia as well, which is odd for a loser (thought they do lose Two Sicilies and more importantly the Hapsburgs replace the Savoyards. So post-war Italy probably can't really be stated to be the same state as the pre-war Italy).
November 22, 1963 – a day that would go down in American history. President John E. Hoover, becomes the first American president to be impeached and removed from office for high crimes and misdeameanours, a congressional supermajority convinced that during his long spell as the nation’s top cop, Hoover had illegally surveilled and manufactured evidence against hundreds of Americans including some top officials, though importantly, it was never demonstrated that the allegations against President Nixon were contrived. It would be Speaker Randolph who would rise to the presidency, initially just for a lame duck term, though he would agree to run for, and win re-election at the behest of factional powerbrokers. The Randolph administration was only really a caretaker one, though the blame for this can’t be entirely levelled at the president, after all the faction had really lost its steam a decade or so ago.
Nixon's resignation, the caretaker presidencies of Bankhead and Randolph, the election of Hoover, recession, the Marxist-Lincolnists were a long way from the heady days of the Robeson administration. The factional establishment were torn between reform and keeping the course. Taking up the reformist mantle was Pennsylvania governor Bayard Rustin. Rustin, the first open Uranian to run for the presidency, argued that the Second Republic needed to take a 'strategic retreat', maintaining the nationalisation of key industries as instituted under President Robeson, but allow for further market reforms across other sectors, that American socialism would be guided by the 'soft touch' of the state. Rustin would garner support from much of the Marxist-Lincolnist faction, most notably from President Randolph, and would also gain support as the 'lesser evil' by many opponents of Marxism-Lincolnism. But Rustin's support would not be universal. The stalwart's choice would be a solid party functionary in Robert McNamara, who would make the argument to stay the course, and would prevail, albeit in the most narrow election in the history of the Second Republic.
But McNamara, the candidate of the status quo, would shock the world by driving significant reform. McNamara, obsessed with numbers and modernisation found himself obsessed with what was a fringe government project, that was until then the bete noire of much of the ossified bureaucracy. Before Congress, McNamara would reveal to the American public his bold reform agenda - proposing like Rustin before him that many of the Republic's state industry would be disrupted, not by privatisation but by true socialisation, much of American industry would see it returned to the working class in the form of mass worker co-operatives. In a most memorable moment, McNamara would hold up the keyboard of a telex machine, shouting that the computer will bring socialism, for these worker co-operatives would in unison form the 'Socialist Machine' comprising of ‘a set of operations rooms… receiving real-time data from the systems which they monitor’, economic planners in these rooms would use this data to drive models and control the economy through ‘the linkage of these rooms across the sub-systems – using colour television, and a network of fast-acting computer terminals’.
In the eyes of Marxist-Lincolnists, McNamara would stand alongside Robeson and Lincoln as the greatest presidents in the history of the Second Republic. To this day, McNamara possesses a loyal cadre who argue that while Lincoln brought America's bourgeois revolution, and Robeson started its socialist revolution, that it was one Robert Strange McNamara who completed it.
In one respect, McNamara’s credit was a little overblown. After all, it was his friend, Bob Livingston who had introduced the reforms to McNamara and had pushed heavily for it. It wasn’t that McNamara was entirely unappreciative. After all, with his immense popularity he could anoint anyone as his successor, and he chose Secretary Livingston but for as much as Livingston was as responsible as anyone for the modern American economy, he’d be a forgotten president. And yet he kept the country chugging along, uncontroversially. And so, like his predecessor he was able to push through his successor, and he chose an even more unconventional option than did McNamara.
Baraka Obama was born and raised in Kenya but attended graduate school in America, studying economics. Obama married an American woman and would stay in the country, becoming a government economist for the then-tiny and ignored Office of Algorithmic Management ran by none another than Bob Livingston. The rest, as they say, was history. Midway through Livingston’s time in the White House, Obama would run for Congress before being tapped by Livingston for greater things. The Obama presidency was equally unnoteworthy, at this point the economists had really done everything they had set out to do and Obama personally faced some resentment as the face of the technocrats. Obama would go on to choose not to run for a second term, though many speculate he was rather forced out and would be succeeded by noted co-operative leader in Cesario Chavez. A popular enough president, Chavez’s tenure would be cut short by his sudden death. At which point a most interesting figure would ascend from the Speaker’s chair to the Oval Office.
Nixon's resignation, the caretaker presidencies of Bankhead and Randolph, the election of Hoover, recession, the Marxist-Lincolnists were a long way from the heady days of the Robeson administration. The factional establishment were torn between reform and keeping the course. Taking up the reformist mantle was Pennsylvania governor Bayard Rustin. Rustin, the first open Uranian to run for the presidency, argued that the Second Republic needed to take a 'strategic retreat', maintaining the nationalisation of key industries as instituted under President Robeson, but allow for further market reforms across other sectors, that American socialism would be guided by the 'soft touch' of the state. Rustin would garner support from much of the Marxist-Lincolnist faction, most notably from President Randolph, and would also gain support as the 'lesser evil' by many opponents of Marxism-Lincolnism. But Rustin's support would not be universal. The stalwart's choice would be a solid party functionary in Robert McNamara, who would make the argument to stay the course, and would prevail, albeit in the most narrow election in the history of the Second Republic.
But McNamara, the candidate of the status quo, would shock the world by driving significant reform. McNamara, obsessed with numbers and modernisation found himself obsessed with what was a fringe government project, that was until then the bete noire of much of the ossified bureaucracy. Before Congress, McNamara would reveal to the American public his bold reform agenda - proposing like Rustin before him that many of the Republic's state industry would be disrupted, not by privatisation but by true socialisation, much of American industry would see it returned to the working class in the form of mass worker co-operatives. In a most memorable moment, McNamara would hold up the keyboard of a telex machine, shouting that the computer will bring socialism, for these worker co-operatives would in unison form the 'Socialist Machine' comprising of ‘a set of operations rooms… receiving real-time data from the systems which they monitor’, economic planners in these rooms would use this data to drive models and control the economy through ‘the linkage of these rooms across the sub-systems – using colour television, and a network of fast-acting computer terminals’.
In the eyes of Marxist-Lincolnists, McNamara would stand alongside Robeson and Lincoln as the greatest presidents in the history of the Second Republic. To this day, McNamara possesses a loyal cadre who argue that while Lincoln brought America's bourgeois revolution, and Robeson started its socialist revolution, that it was one Robert Strange McNamara who completed it.
In one respect, McNamara’s credit was a little overblown. After all, it was his friend, Bob Livingston who had introduced the reforms to McNamara and had pushed heavily for it. It wasn’t that McNamara was entirely unappreciative. After all, with his immense popularity he could anoint anyone as his successor, and he chose Secretary Livingston but for as much as Livingston was as responsible as anyone for the modern American economy, he’d be a forgotten president. And yet he kept the country chugging along, uncontroversially. And so, like his predecessor he was able to push through his successor, and he chose an even more unconventional option than did McNamara.
Baraka Obama was born and raised in Kenya but attended graduate school in America, studying economics. Obama married an American woman and would stay in the country, becoming a government economist for the then-tiny and ignored Office of Algorithmic Management ran by none another than Bob Livingston. The rest, as they say, was history. Midway through Livingston’s time in the White House, Obama would run for Congress before being tapped by Livingston for greater things. The Obama presidency was equally unnoteworthy, at this point the economists had really done everything they had set out to do and Obama personally faced some resentment as the face of the technocrats. Obama would go on to choose not to run for a second term, though many speculate he was rather forced out and would be succeeded by noted co-operative leader in Cesario Chavez. A popular enough president, Chavez’s tenure would be cut short by his sudden death. At which point a most interesting figure would ascend from the Speaker’s chair to the Oval Office.
For the last one, well the original 13 States created the Federal Government, then the Federal Government created the other states (with a few exceptions).
The "Real" Liberal Resurgence - 1979 democratised German Empire
The disparate and divided liberal tradition of the German Empire united into one Liberal People's Party after the Weltkrieg, intending to champion a resurgence of responsible, middle-of-the-road liberalism between the social democratic experiments on their left and the strengthening reactionary conservatism on their right. Yet, at first, history did not turn out that way - it would take several decades before, somewhat surprising even the Liberals themselves, they finally achieved what they sought and established a new paradigm...
(Based on the new Kaiserreich Germany rework, set in the Demokratische Union (SPD-led coalition) path. It is a headcanon imagining of the future of Germany after their victory in the Second Weltkrieg.)
(Based on the new Kaiserreich Germany rework, set in the Demokratische Union (SPD-led coalition) path. It is a headcanon imagining of the future of Germany after their victory in the Second Weltkrieg.)
so does Kissinger travel to the USSA to meet with Chairman Richard Nixon to negotiate detente in the Kalterkrieg?The "Real" Liberal Resurgence - 1979 democratised German Empire
The disparate and divided liberal tradition of the German Empire united into one Liberal People's Party after the Weltkrieg, intending to champion a resurgence of responsible, middle-of-the-road liberalism between the social democratic experiments on their left and the strengthening reactionary conservatism on their right. Yet, at first, history did not turn out that way - it would take several decades before, somewhat surprising even the Liberals themselves, they finally achieved what they sought and established a new paradigm...
(Based on the new Kaiserreich Germany rework, set in the Demokratische Union (SPD-led coalition) path. It is a headcanon imagining of the future of Germany after their victory in the Second Weltkrieg.)
What are the parties like? Some are, naturally, more obvious, but still, a little summary. I'm particularly interested in the 2 far right ones, Die Granate and the Black Front, since they seem most divergent and prone to unique directions than, say, the Communists, whose platform I think we all have a rough idea of.
The major political parties are roughly the same as OTL. The three big off-shoots of the Nazi Party are where things get interesting.
Scheubner-Richter’s NSDAP are the strongest and largest of the three. In contrast to the OTL Nazis they are monarchist, big on Christian imagery and have a big following among the clergy, and less revolutionary in their aims. The biggest ideological difference is that they are not in-favour of exterminating Russians but rather absorbing them into Germany.
The Black Front is the Strasserist wing of the party which abandoned the NSDAP after the Bamberg Conference in 1926. Their economic policies are redistributive (they advocate for the nationalisation of Jewish property and the big corporations), their social policies call for the destruction of class differences. Joseph Goebbels joins the Black Front in the 1920s and becomes its de facto leader after Strasser bails. Currently ITTL it’s been driven underground by the rise of the Nazis.
Die Granate is your standard authoritarian Conservative Party (of the Horthy/Antonescu school). It enjoys very little support but has a devoted paramilitary wing. It exists more or less as Goering’s vanity project. After the Nazis take power Goering flees to Austria and the party collapses.
Fascinating stuff.
So TTLs Nazis are more like a hyper extreme version of German monarchists than, well, the nazis.
When you say Christian, what denomination? How far into Russia do they expect to conquer if they’re “integrating Russians into Germany”?
It might be right to call them Ultra-Conservatives. They’re Monarchists (Crown Prince Friedrich-Wilhelm is President of TTL Nazi Germany), Völkisch, and Pan-German.
Many leading Nazis are Protestants. They’re supported by a broad alliance of German Protestant churches. There’s also a pet faction of German Christians trying to unify Nazism with Lutheranism.
As with Hitler the aim with Russia is to conquer European Russia and, tentatively, to reach the Urals. The Slavic citizens of the former USSR will then be Germanised. That’s the plan anyway…
Mmm, precisely what I thought. How does the prince like being aligned with a party that calls itself socialist?
Makes sense
Not doubt On The Jews And Their Lies is a very popular book then.
I'm sure that'll go great for them. Still, this kind of approach is likely to yield at least some more success than outright genocide and derision. Maybe some talk of Rus Norse ancestry, or of common Slavo-Germanic Aryan origins, or the Russian Czars' German heritage. If they were less Christian I could see them emphasizing the similarities between Germanic and Slavic pre-Christian religions. I can see them getting some more whites on board than just the OTL WaffenSS units, and maybe some collaborationist group of Russians trying to lobby the Nazis for Russo-German COEXISTENCE in the Reich rather than assimilation. Either way, it would be interesting to see a postwar presence, albeit likely a very small one, of pro Nazi Russians, Ukrainians, and Belarussians (I imagine the Nazis will still lose)
He dislikes the radical elements (led by Police Minister Graf von Helldorff) but is willing to look past it in the name of Hohenzollern restoration. He gets on well with Chancellor Max von Scheubner-Richter, whose a lot more personable and polite than Hitler was, at least to other aristocrats.
It's required reading in schools and a favourite of Chancellor Scheubner-Richter.
Oh definitely. Scheubner-Richter was IOTL a major organizer of White Russian groups. The Czar's German ancestry has already come up ITTL and Grand Duke Vladimir has taken up residence in the Bavarian Alps at the Nazis' invitation. When the German invasion of the USSR begins there will be a large network of white exiles accompanying the invasion...
