With a POD of 1923 (i.e. after Mussolini established the prototype for fascism), I want fascism to seize power in America. Chief Pelley and his Unionists are likely to be butterflied away. What are some other likely names for American fascist movements, and fascist Leader Titles? I also need plausible French and British fascists, and even Australian and New Zealander (bonus points if you guess the POD!)
Alternate names for fascist movements
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I read not so much time ago an italian sf novel about a Mussolini who migrate in the Usa soon after WW1, and after a while become a successfull adventurous and humorous sf writer:
http://www.robinedizioni.it/il-fascio-sulle-stelle-di-benito-mussolini
I don't think it was translated in other languages than italian, anyway.
the novel is on a very light register and it simulate an anthology of the now old and respected writer with some comments and anecdotes between a tale and another. is a sort of parallel with Spinrad's Iron Dream, but on a very lightful tone. Mussolini and Hitler become friends, but there's a lot of difference between them and their readers, Mussolini solar, optimistic and womanizer, a successful immigrant enthusiast of the american way, Hitler goth and oscure. they become friends as coleagues but have a lot of arguments., Mussolini calls him "mad hun"...
all this to say that a POD (that I guess is not what you had in mind) could be that when Mussolini and his camarades arrive in Rome, King Vittorio Emanuele III and his ministries find a bit of courage and just arrest them all (the most important).
but Mussolini is too popular to just be leaved in prison or sent back, the institutions fear a serious revolt, so they propose him esiliation for some years. maybe as some sort of ambassador or cultural affairs attache. same for other prominent fascist bosses, that are sent around the world (Australia, New Zealand...), but not in countries where they could find support and proselitism (Japan and Germany).
after all life as ambassador is a lot better than as revolutionary. they make friends with some important people, the italian expatriate community give some sort of support, and they indirectly inspirate someone else on doing a fascist revolution.
http://www.robinedizioni.it/il-fascio-sulle-stelle-di-benito-mussolini
I don't think it was translated in other languages than italian, anyway.
the novel is on a very light register and it simulate an anthology of the now old and respected writer with some comments and anecdotes between a tale and another. is a sort of parallel with Spinrad's Iron Dream, but on a very lightful tone. Mussolini and Hitler become friends, but there's a lot of difference between them and their readers, Mussolini solar, optimistic and womanizer, a successful immigrant enthusiast of the american way, Hitler goth and oscure. they become friends as coleagues but have a lot of arguments., Mussolini calls him "mad hun"...
all this to say that a POD (that I guess is not what you had in mind) could be that when Mussolini and his camarades arrive in Rome, King Vittorio Emanuele III and his ministries find a bit of courage and just arrest them all (the most important).
but Mussolini is too popular to just be leaved in prison or sent back, the institutions fear a serious revolt, so they propose him esiliation for some years. maybe as some sort of ambassador or cultural affairs attache. same for other prominent fascist bosses, that are sent around the world (Australia, New Zealand...), but not in countries where they could find support and proselitism (Japan and Germany).
after all life as ambassador is a lot better than as revolutionary. they make friends with some important people, the italian expatriate community give some sort of support, and they indirectly inspirate someone else on doing a fascist revolution.
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Dr Pervez Hoodbhoy
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"President" works just fine in the US. But if you want something else, how 'bout "commander-in-chief"? It emphasises the martial aspect, it's a title that the POTUS actually holds and it means the same thing as "generalissimo" without sounding foreign.
Well the thing about 'fascism' is that it's so vague you can basically use practically anything as a fascist movement name... heck, look at 'fascism' itself, coming from the Roman fasces... As long as you can justify it... I even could see things like "Socialism", "Republicanism", "Libertarianism", or "Constitutionalism" being grabbed by a fascist organization...
Redbeard
Banned
"Phalangist" was used by fascist like movements.
As fascists usually were for very strong government I wonder if the Greek word for the state - Polis - could be used in some form or combination. What about "Politarians"?
Considering the strategic decisions of various leading fascists I guess "Morons" would be quite fitting too.
Regards
Steffen Redbeard
As fascists usually were for very strong government I wonder if the Greek word for the state - Polis - could be used in some form or combination. What about "Politarians"?
Considering the strategic decisions of various leading fascists I guess "Morons" would be quite fitting too.
Regards
Steffen Redbeard
