It would definitely have been very vulnerable from behind.
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Yeah I've been toying with putting remote control turrets on it similar to the Me-210 on the rear of the booms would not be the best but better than nothing
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Did Reinhard Heydrich take his leave on the Russian front flying fighters until Hitler stopped him?
BlackDragon98
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Say what you will about Heydrich, but the man was not a coward.
Reinhard Heydrich - Wikipedia
"Heydrich began training as a pilot in 1935, and undertook fighter pilot training at the flight school at Werneuchen in 1939. Himmler initially forbade Heydrich from flying combat missions, but later relented, allowing him to join Jagdgeschwader 77 in Norway, where he was stationed from 15 April 1940 during Operation Weserübung. He returned to Berlin on 14 May after having crashed his plane on takeoff at Stavanger the previous day.[167][168]"
"On 20 July 1941, without seeking authorisation from Himmler, Heydrich rejoined Jagdgeschwader 77 during Operation Barbarossa, arriving at Yampil, Vinnytsia Oblast in a borrowed Bf 109. His aircraft was hit by Russian flak in action near the Dniester on 22 July, and he had to land the plane in enemy territory. He avoided capture and returned to Berlin after being rescued by a patrol.[170] It was his final combat mission.[168]"
Imagine that if Heydrich survived, it would request Himmler to form an JG of the SS, maybe something similar to both the Luftwaffe 1946 or the Wunderwaffen comics
Did Heydrich get any confirmed kills?Say what you will about Heydrich, but the man was not a coward.
"Heydrich's time in the SS was a mixture of rapid promotions, reserve commissions in the regular armed forces, and front-line combat service. During his 11 years with the SS Heydrich "rose from the ranks" and was appointed to every rank from private to full general. He was also a major in the Luftwaffe, flying nearly 100 combat missions until 22 July 1941, when his plane was hit by Soviet anti-aircraft fire. After this Hitler personally ordered Heydrich to return to Berlin to resume his SS duties.[164]"Reinhard Heydrich - Wikipedia
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"Heydrich began training as a pilot in 1935, and undertook fighter pilot training at the flight school at Werneuchen in 1939. Himmler initially forbade Heydrich from flying combat missions, but later relented, allowing him to join Jagdgeschwader 77 in Norway, where he was stationed from 15 April 1940 during Operation Weserübung. He returned to Berlin on 14 May after having crashed his plane on takeoff at Stavanger the previous day.[167][168]"
"On 20 July 1941, without seeking authorisation from Himmler, Heydrich rejoined Jagdgeschwader 77 during Operation Barbarossa, arriving at Yampil, Vinnytsia Oblast in a borrowed Bf 109. His aircraft was hit by Russian flak in action near the Dniester on 22 July, and he had to land the plane in enemy territory. He avoided capture and returned to Berlin after being rescued by a patrol.[170] It was his final combat mission.[168]"
BlackDragon98
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AFAIK, no kills.
Below is some info in regard to his Luftwaffe service.
"Heydrich, in the uniform of a Luftwaffe Hauptmann, joined 6. Staffel/JG 77 at Kristiansand-Kjevik in South Norway in mid-April 1940 for a month’s stay after completing fighter training at Jagdfliegerschule 1 Werneuchen. Those who flew with him say he was a highly motivated, aggressive pilot and a very friendly and jovial personality off duty. Heydrich wrecked his Bf 109E-1 while taking off from Stavanger-Sola on 13 May. He was not injured. For his month of service in Norway, where he saw little or no action, Heydrich received the EK II and the silberne Frontflugspange.
(Source: Prien, Jochen; Geschichte des Jagdgeschwaders 77, 4 Bände (Teile 1 – 4) (Eutin, c. 1992-93). See Band 1 pages 209, 220, 221 and 223. Account based on statements of two 6. Staffel pilots who flew nearly every mission with Heydrich: Frank-Werner Rott, 28 April 1990 and Berthold Jung, 4 November 1989. There are also several photos of Heydrich with his plane.)
In mid-July 1941, Heydrich once again donned his Luftwaffe uniform, but now as a “Major”, and rejoined II./JG 77, now based at Balti-East in Moldavia. Heydrich arrived with his “own” Bf 109, which he claimed had been given to him personally by Generaloberst Ernst Udet for favors rendered. He flew for several days, but did not score. On 22 July he was shot down between the lines by Russian AA fire, belly landing his Bf 109E-7 (Werknummer 3765) near the village of Olshanka. He was rescued unscathed within a few hours by a patrol from a nearby German infantry division and returned to Berlin the next day. Heydrich received the EK I for his brief, week-long stay with II. Gruppe.
(Source: Prien – op cit, Band 2 pages 704, 709, 710, 711, 729 and 873. Account based on JG 77 Kriegstagebuch (war diary) and the January 1990 statement of Georg Schirmböck, who flew with Heydrich during his week at the front)."
I hope they remember pusher engines have different cooling needs from puller engines.
They probably do but I don't how so?
As always feel freePretty cool, might have to steal this design.
A big dorsal or ventral scoop (or both) may help some with that (though it would mar the aerodynamics a bit
), but I think overheating tended to be an issue with most air-cooled pusher designs... maybe a Focke-Wulf-style cooling fan mounted at the "back" (in this case, facing forward) might help, to draw more air through the scoop(s)?So inline engines would work better for the pusher engine?A big dorsal or ventral scoop (or both) may help some with that (though it would mar the aerodynamics a bit
The Dutch Fokker D.XXIII had inverted-vee aircooled engines (which can be tricky to cool evenly anyway), and it had overheating probs with the pusher engine...
With a liquid-cooled inline, you just have to figure out where to put the radiator(s) and intake scoops for them... which can be done a number of creative ways, but there can be technical difficulties
There's also the need to make sure that parts which normally rely on the engine "pre-heating" the cooling air at altitude are repositioned so that still happens - see also the carburettor on the Pratt & Whitney R-4360, which had issues with the air coming directly from the intakes causing ice buildup (which in turn led to air starvation of the engines, and from there to engine fires when the super-rich fuel mixture started depositing unburnt fuel into the exhaust).
Well we can use an artifact of the manipulation as the third (rear engine) has a set of very obvious "cowling flaps" which would normally be facing into the trailing slipstream but here are facing forward so...
"To relieve ground overheating the Thunder Bird pusher engine has operable cooling flaps that can be opened completely to allow air circulation into the engine bay supplemented by an engine mounted fan that helps draw in the air. These are automatically and progressively closed and opened as needed and can be overridden by the crew in flight"
And as always, (like everyone else
) my CSU thanks you for the effort Randy
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Big thing I'd suggest would be to unify engine types - ie., if you're going to go for liquid-cooled V-12 in the rear, you might as well swap the boom engines as well. Mostly because doing otherwise increases complexity and logistical overhead for not much gain, AFAIK.