Alexander the Mediocre
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A hell of a lot. Did you not read my earlier statement? Heck, even in Malaysia and Indonesia people tell folktales about Iskander.
For the last time, don't reference India- Alexander conquered a VERY small portion of it. I never claimed they spoke Greek, I said the languages of the decendants of Alexanders empire had large number of Greek loanwords. Just like we don't speak Latin, yet we have a large number of words borrowed from it. The entirety of his empire spoke Greek for 800 years, and there are traces of it (not many, due to Islamic influence) in many languages.
Oh, you caught me. There is no 2200 year old surviving Alexandrian rump state in existence. I guess the Seleucids, Ptolemies, etc. were a myth. You win.
Main towns founded by Alexander
Around seventy towns or outposts are claimed to have been founded by Alexander.[22] Some of the main ones are:
* Alexandria, Egypt
* Alexandria Asiana, Iran
* Alexandria in Ariana, Afghanistan
* Alexandria of the Caucasus, Afghanistan
* Alexandria on the Oxus, Afghanistan
* Alexandria of the Arachosians, Afghanistan
* Alexandria on the Indus (Alexandria Bucephalous), Pakistan
* Alexandria Eschate, "The furthest", Tajikistan
* Iskenderun (Alexandretta), Turkey
* Kandahar (Alexandropolis), Afghanistan
* Iskandiriyah(Alexandria),Iraq
Lastly, you keep saying that Afghanistan and Pakistan forgot India. That is flatout not true- both countries are 99% Muslim, and Alexander is mentioned repeatedly in the Koran. Read this article if you don't believe me.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_in_the_Qur'an_(Theory)
MrP
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I'm inclined to enthusiastically support your statement
I'll "Captain Kirk" you, you fiend!
HueyLong
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The Golden Buddhas are a direct mix of Greek and Bactrian design elemnts and construction- they were worhipped for years.
Anything not directly seen in the modern world has no effect. Great way to look at history.
Henry Ford? Nope, nothing special. Did not pioneer developing techniques and hiring techniques. He did make my truck.
The Russian Revolution? No effect. Some crumbling statues, and some funeral thing. About it.
Roman Empire? Good tour guides, and I like the white marble.
Anything not directly seen in the modern world has no effect. Great way to look at history.
Henry Ford? Nope, nothing special. Did not pioneer developing techniques and hiring techniques. He did make my truck.
The Russian Revolution? No effect. Some crumbling statues, and some funeral thing. About it.
Roman Empire? Good tour guides, and I like the white marble.
Keenir
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*nods* I was informed more than once, in fact, that the popular image of Jesus, is in fact the image of Alexander -- because Alexander was pretty much the first pan-national hero. (Egypt had Menes, and so on, but Alexander was international)
Maybe he'd prefer to talk to the goat herders' lawyers.
MrP
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I've heard a pretty plausible argument that it's Zeus/the Father of the Gods - after all, bearded long haired chap - saves changing all your religious iconography, eh?
MrP
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I'll split as many infinitives as I like
I'm going to definitely stop you!
Noooo! I am become one!
HelloLegend
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Again, I wasn't challenging "influence" I was challenge "legacy."
Everyone has an influence, some greater some smaller.
Hundreds of people will not be born in 3000 years if I were not to have offspring etc. That's influence.
Legacy... We still have a modern version of the FORD truck, that still says FORD on it.
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I don't know the answer to this... but I wonder how many people in Pakistan have never heard of Alexander? 10%? 30% 50%?
Keenir
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Given that we can't (and wouldn't) loan you our brains, and we're starting to doubt you'd listen if we provided detailed information, the only remaining options are either to have you banned\placed on parole -- or to have you look it up.
Keenir
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Yeah?, and what does Mr. Clemens say about people who are incapable of learning anything, even when they (say they are) ask for help?
You have not made any points. And everyone here has been refuting your mindless parroting of empty claims for two whole pages in this thread.
Keenir
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Nothing about the service....though it is bothersome to true patriots that you hide behind your rank and service, when we take you to task for knowing nothing about the history of the world.
I sure hope you don't claim the Navy taught you how to debate.
Keenir
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Nobody knows the name of the man who invented the world's first flush toilet....HelloLegend would probably claim that, therefore, the flush toilet is not a signifigant invention.
Nobody's made personal attacks. Your paranoia may have had you interpret peoples' frustration as attacks on you, but there were no attacks.
True...but then, our discussions are also best served with you actually paying attention to what we're saying.
But that Soccer Mom has most likely been to DC...and still does not know the role of Alexander the Great, or Plato, or any of the heroes of the wars against Persia, Judea, or the Romans.
You're not asking "what is his legacy?"....you're asking "was there any copy-what-Alexander built, after he'd been dead for 2,000 years?"
Like how Britain recovered from the Romans?
You're confusing Hellenistic inheritance with pre-Hellenistic feelings. In the 1700s and 1800s, Britain and the infant US found it fashionable to copy from Greece -- who were, after all "the Heirs of Homer".
Do you know how to listen to a suggestion?
Or are you saying that you want to be handed a summary of 400 books on the subject, which you will promptly ignore?
Neither are pretty much everyone in GREECE.
The Greeks are too busy raising their goats.
We were founded by Macedonian warriors?
Dang, and here I thought we were founded by British and German dissidents.
That's because in Afghanistan, everything has been blown up!
Well, see, we use this thing called Grammar.
Eli, Eli, lama...
Please, tell me that you're joking: you're seriously comparing a 4-year span, with a 2,300-year span????
Have you asked the goat farmer?
I agree most whole-heartedly!
After all, how many people these days know that the walls of Jericho are over 7,000 years old? (one source said 10,000). Yet nobody would say "pah, Jericho doesn't matter".