AHC The Three Emperors' Alliance
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Max Sinister
Banned
They would a) have to agree that liberalism and democracy must be stopped by all means, otherwise their thrones are in danger, and b) have exceptionally competent people working for them. And c) never make a mistake. And d) never have competent opponents. And e) never fall apart over anything.
Seriously, keeping the alliance around for 20 or 30 more years would be quite a challenge.
Seriously, keeping the alliance around for 20 or 30 more years would be quite a challenge.
Will Kürlich Kerl
Banned
That and have the internal conflicts in Russia solved too. Otherwise the Three Emperors' Alliance will cease to exist once revolutionaries take over Russia.
The revolution was by no means guaranteed to happen. It could be put on hold for decades, since on of the main causes of the revolution was the mssive military defeats Russia suffered in WWI. If Russia keeps winning or stays out of wars then the Russian Empire could easily survive, until they get another emperor like Alexander II, who will reform the empire.
Very unlikely given how bad things have gotten by 1914. And relying on getting another emperor like Alexander II isn't good enough.
MarshalBraginsky
Banned
The issue of influence in the Balkans will be very tricky, but here is something that can help:
- Serbia had a pro-Austrian dynasty in the House of Obrenovic before their defeat in the Serbo-Bulgarian War of 1885, which saw the Karadjordjevic family take power in a coup. Said family who took power were pro-Russian.
- Bulgaria was liberated IOTL by Russia, and to this day many Bulgarians still see Alexander II as one of the two liberators of Bulgaria (the other being Januarius MacGahan, an American journalist)
What Austria-Hungary and Russia need to do is to state which Balkan states will be their client states. If the House of Obrenovic maintains power, then Serbia would probably slide into the Austrian camp, and Bulgaria into the Russian camp. Romania, I am not sure since they want territories that are currently administered by Austria-Hungary (Transylvania) and Russia (Bessarabia), so I'm guessing that the Romanians might lean towards the anti-Three Emperors' Alliance faction. Albania on the other hand, will be very tricky as no one knows which nation will claim them as a client state. (Assuming that Italy will gobble them up if no one else is interested) Greece will definitely be the wild card as no one also knows which side they will take.
- Serbia had a pro-Austrian dynasty in the House of Obrenovic before their defeat in the Serbo-Bulgarian War of 1885, which saw the Karadjordjevic family take power in a coup. Said family who took power were pro-Russian.
- Bulgaria was liberated IOTL by Russia, and to this day many Bulgarians still see Alexander II as one of the two liberators of Bulgaria (the other being Januarius MacGahan, an American journalist)
What Austria-Hungary and Russia need to do is to state which Balkan states will be their client states. If the House of Obrenovic maintains power, then Serbia would probably slide into the Austrian camp, and Bulgaria into the Russian camp. Romania, I am not sure since they want territories that are currently administered by Austria-Hungary (Transylvania) and Russia (Bessarabia), so I'm guessing that the Romanians might lean towards the anti-Three Emperors' Alliance faction. Albania on the other hand, will be very tricky as no one knows which nation will claim them as a client state. (Assuming that Italy will gobble them up if no one else is interested) Greece will definitely be the wild card as no one also knows which side they will take.
MarshalBraginsky
Banned
You may need a different tsar than Nicholas II, but Alexander II was a liberal minded reformer though.
Grey Wolf
Donor
...and you get my story "Tsar Michael The Great"
Nicholas II was very ill at Livadia whilst Alexandra was pregnant with Anastasia, and if he'd died Michael would have become Tsar. 1901 I think
Best Regards
Grey Wolf
Will Kürlich Kerl
Banned
...and you get my story "Tsar Michael The Great"
Nicholas II was very ill at Livadia whilst Alexandra was pregnant with Anastasia, and if he'd died Michael would have become Tsar. 1901 I think
Best Regards
Grey Wolf
You should continue the timeline.