Maybe forced desegregation in the 1950s and 60s comes the closest. Even then, in 1957 when the state of Arkansas refused to integrate their public school system following Brown v. Bd. of Ed., Eisenhower placed the Arkansas National Guard under federal control and sent in the 101st Airborne Division. The Arkansas Nat'l Guard (and the local police agencies) simply stood pat and let it happen. Sure, there was speechifying by the Bull Connor's and others, and the KKK pulled its crap (usually in the middle of the night and ambushing unarmed victims). But even by the 1950's, whites residing in the Southern states weren't as monolithic in their views of race relations.Something about State rights?
And the situation in Canada is similar to one of my initial points. Besides some periodic "letters to the editor," callers to talk-radio, and the occasional petition, nothing happens.... much of the furor for western Canadian secession comes from tax revenues going east especially to Quebec.
Interesting... probably not Roosevelt but someone more like Huey Long, who would have also enjoyed huge Democratic majorities in Congress, packed the Supremes, etc., leading to the evolution of the dictatorship,Well, this would require quite a bit of set up, but a USA that finds itself in the aftermath of a period of dictatorship, perhaps occuring during the Great Depression, could evoke an Article V constitutional convention as a means of restoring some semblance of a constitution, only for the states to fail to agree on what the shape the new constitution should take, and voting as a collective based on the ruling of Texas v White that the US should dissolve into various regional Republics.
I did read a TL a long time ago in which desegregation was delayed by a decade because WW2 didn't happen (Hitler didn't rise to power). The extra decade gave time for polarization to build up, and when Washington finally forced the issue in the early 70s, Alabama's state government seceded in practice (declaring that the Union should only be for mutual defense and foreign policy and that if the feds wouldn't limit their power to that then they should leave). Shots were fired and casualties resulted when the National Guard tried to expel the officials in the Federal Buildings in Birmingham, and the US military moved in. The rebellion was ended within days, with the State Capitol bombarded (it was the last stronghold of the rebels), the Governor dead by suicide, and with Birmingham (the center of the unionist movement) becoming the new capital. In all it was certainly the most violent desegregation I've read in a TL.Maybe forced desegregation in the 1950s and 60s comes the closest. Even then, in 1957 when the state of Arkansas refused to integrate their public school system following Brown v. Bd. of Ed., Eisenhower placed the Arkansas National Guard under federal control and sent in the 101st Airborne Division. The Arkansas Nat'l Guard (and the local police agencies) simply stood pat and let it happen. Sure, there was speechifying by the Bull Connor's and others, and the KKK pulled its crap (usually in the middle of the night and ambushing unarmed victims). But even by the 1950's, whites residing in the Southern states weren't as monolithic in their views of race relations.
And the situation in Canada is similar to one of my initial points. Besides some periodic "letters to the editor," callers to talk-radio, and the occasional petition, nothing happens.
Switch to the metric system!Could a state do something bad enough (make war on the United States perhaps) that the other states choose to expel it from the Union?
those seem fair starts for most governmentsLet us assume that the majority of a given state want to secede for whatever reason. What practical steps can the Union take to prevent a unilateral secession? Not what laws exist but how would they be enacted effectively? Arrest and imprison most of the population? Execute ringleaders. Establish internment camps to ‘re eductate’ secessionists?
Nothing like this would be remotely necessary or desirable. (Hell, even in the American Civil War none of this happened, and that was a much more extreme scenario than simply one state seceding.) Look at somewhere like Catalonia, where the population is more or less evenly split on the question of independence. Spain didn't need to turn into North Korea and start executing pro-independence leaders and imprisoning literally everyone who voted for independence, they just arrested the pro-independence politicians who attempted to secede and put down protests using the police. A US state with a secessionist movement would likely end up similarly even if its secessionists were more popular than Catalonia's: federal forces roll in and take control, the politicians involved in the secession attempt are arrested, and protests are suppressed. You don't need to arrest literally every single supporter of secession unless you assume they all will stop at nothing to make it happen and can only be stopped from actively revolting against the government if they're killed or imprisoned, and you shouldn't, because that's a bad assumption. If 60% or whatever of the population are pro-independence, the vast majority of them will be basically ordinary people with concerns other than secession who will respond to a setback like this by just going back to their jobs and biding their time, and in the meanwhile not doing anything that would be worth sending them to a camp for.Let us assume that the majority of a given state want to secede for whatever reason. What practical steps can the Union take to prevent a unilateral secession? Not what laws exist but how would they be enacted effectively? Arrest and imprison most of the population? Execute ringleaders. Establish internment camps to ‘re eductate’ secessionists?
So New Hampshire.You'd need a purple state with a fairly small population that would benefit from leaving and would be a small enough loss that the rest of the country would agree.
So New Hampshire.