AHC: A Powerful Spanish Speaking Country?

Is there any way for one or more of the leading countries in the world, respected for its civility and world station, to be Spanish-speaking?

This is not to say that the Spanish-speaking countries are barbarous or don't have culture (They absolutely do), but the GDP of Spain and Mexico is the largest of all the Spanish-speaking countries, and neither is in a great spot right now.
 
I think if Mexico had been able to keep Texas, US Southwest and California then I would assume it would be a powerful country in terms of economics. I haven't a clue about military power though so maybe.
 
Is there any way for one or more of the leading countries in the world, respected for its civility and world station, to be Spanish-speaking?

This is not to say that the Spanish-speaking countries are barbarous or don't have culture (They absolutely do), but the GDP of Spain and Mexico is the largest of all the Spanish-speaking countries, and neither is in a great spot right now.

Pre 1955 argentina fits this.
 
Could pre-1955 Argentina be kept to the present day in its state? Also, would it be a world influence or just a nice place to live?
 
Could pre-1955 Argentina be kept to the present day in its state? Also, would it be a world influence or just a nice place to live?

Well, a argentinian could explain better but I believe it could as long the military is kept out of the government.

Edit; Without the right wing liberal wave in the 90s things would be way more pleasant in latim america in general, not just argentina, but not enought to keep them afloat as in the past.
 
Maybe Mexico without a Mexican Revolution?

Actually this is true, Argentina did in fact surpass places like Canada during the early 20th century when it came to development.
Gonna need a citation on that. Argentina certainly had a higher GDP per capita than Canada prior to WWI, but this is the first I've heard someone say it was more generally developed.
 
One thing before someone comments: The idea that Perón ruined argentina is a cold war meme that outlived it's usefullness, ok? Argentina began to go downhill with the 1930 coup but Perón managed to stall the decay during it's presidency, things only went pretty bad during the following military dictatorships.
 
One thing before someone comments: The idea that Perón ruined argentina is a cold war meme that outlived it's usefullness, ok? Argentina began to go downhill with the 1930 coup but Perón managed to stall the decay during it's presidency, things only went pretty bad during the following military dictatorships.
I thought it started to go downhill when post-WWI protectionism invalidated its economic model?
 
I thought it started to go downhill when post-WWI protectionism invalidated its economic model?

That made the system problematic but still could adapt and be kept afloat. The 1930 coup locked Argentina into a oligarchic dictatorship who overruled all reforms until the oligarchy fell in the 1943 coup. Peron tried his best to modernize the country but was couped in 1955, after that the system collapsed.
 
In Latin America, their problems are rooted in the colonial mismanagement of the Spanish, the dominance of the Catholic Church, the power plays and the Americans' involvements in their politics. Especially that last one.

It all depends what divergeance point you are asking. If you're asking for them to rise post-1900, that's a tall order, but not impossible.

One idea could be to where the Great War ends up differently, maybe under Theodore Roosevelt and thus the situation over in Europe is different. One where the USSR and Nazi Germany does not really rise up to cause problems. This means no communist boogieman so socialism and communist along with their milder counterparts are not spooky to the mainstream. Next, we could have it to where the Spanish Civil War has many of the left flee after Franco gets involved and so on, thus fleeing to Mexico. Maybe this along with the potential Catholic Church's siding of this and maybe even their calls against leftist rhetoric would cause Catholicism to greater lose popularity within Mexico. If under good leadership and if the US leaves well enough alone, Mexico could rise up more and more to become quite prominent while serving as an influence in Latin America.

Things that would help would be distrbuting the population more equally, greater environmental protections and so on. Probably decriminalizing drugs would help too. Radical maybe, but it'd help in the long run.
 
Next, we could have it to where the Spanish Civil War has many of the left flee after Franco gets involved and so on, thus fleeing to Mexico. Maybe this along with the potential Catholic Church's siding of this and maybe even their calls against leftist rhetoric would cause Catholicism to greater lose popularity within Mexico. If under good leadership and if the US leaves well enough alone, Mexico could rise up more and more to become quite prominent while serving as an influence in Latin America.
Post-revolution Mexico was already one of the most anti-clerical regimes on the planet. Strangely that didn't actually solve any of Mexico's problems...
 
Post-revolution Mexico was already one of the most anti-clerical regimes on the planet. Strangely that didn't actually solve any of Mexico's problems...

It created many in fact.

I think that the church could be persuaded to be more active on welfare, maybe someone brings Christian democracy there and uses the church to build even more schools, hospitals, universities, it would have helped.
 
It created many in fact.

I think that the church could be persuaded to be more active on welfare, maybe someone brings Christian democracy there and uses the church to build even more schools, hospitals, universities, it would have helped.
Personalism has always struck me as something that should have been successful in Latin America yet wasn't.
 
Depends of what you call personalism... As far as I know is the idea of a leader like figure, isn't?
Basically its a collection of ideologies based on Catholic social teaching and the idea that people have inherent value. Specifically I was thinking more the sort embraced by the French Non-Conformists but the Boston variety would work as well.
 
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Basically its a collection of ideologies based on Catholic social teaching and the idea that people have inherent value. Specifically I was thinking more the sort embraced by the French Non-Conformists but the Boston variety would work as well.

Most Spanish-speaking countries in the Americas have experienced being under a colonial system with a strict hierarchy in race that reflected class and everything down to legal status. Even after becoming independent, that problem is embedded into society and I don’t so a whole lot of the mainstream Catholic Church doing anything about it. Not that everything related to the Church was bad. There are many examples of singularly heroic priests and the Jesuits (which are huge in the Americas) lean in a more charitable direction than the wider church (ever since Pope Francis, a Jesuit, I’m not really sure how separate they are now, but those are pretty recent changes in broader history).

Having said that, Christian Democratic parties do or did exist there. In Chile, Frei Montalava was the President before Allende and belonged to such a party.
 
Ok so my own input would be it’s clearly quite a difficult task...

However, Peru has an abundance of natural resources but successive mis management and a series of costly wars historically reduced its territorial dominance in the west coast of South America and economically has struggled to keep pace with bitter rivals Chile.

During WW1 Peru enjoyed something of an economic resurgence due to its copper exports. If Peru had also won the war of the Pacific - utterly subjugating its rival Chile it could have been by far the most powerful and prosperous nation in West, South America.

Aligning this with improved relations with the worlds super powers (Chile during the war received favourable support from France and the U.S possibly even Britain - but don’t quote me in this I’m spitballing) due to the fact Chile’s geopolitical importance had been severely reduced then Peru could suddenly find itself making new powerful allies.

I’m stretching this as far as I can however Peru could have been far more powerful than it currently is if events and most notably its run of disastrous leaders had been different.
 
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