A Nuclear 9/11

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AbeLincoln1865

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American Airlines Flight 11 8:46 AM Just as the plane was about to collide with the World Trade Center their was a bright flash of light that erased everything. The only person to capture the plane on film that day was Pavel Hlava how survived the explosion. Heres the film showing the plane impacting:
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The explosion was equal to 15 kilotons of TNT with thousands dying in seconds. Then at 9:03 United Airlines Flight 175 crashed into the Empire State Building exploding with just the same amount energy. At 9:37 American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon which had already been evacuated. Finally at 10:03 United Airlines Flight 93 crashed in a field southeast of Pittsburgh. President Bush raised the Defcon level from 5 to 1 all air traffic except for Millitary and Medical and Con Air flight are stopped untill further notice at least 210,000 people died and the war on terror began​
 
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Freizeit

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Abe Lincoln1865 said:
American Airlines Flight 11 8:46 AM Just as the plane was about to collide with the World Trade Center their was a bright flash of light that erased everything. The only person to capture the plane on film that day was Pavel Hlava how survived the explosion. Heres the film showing the plane impacting:
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The explosion was equal to 15 kilotons of TNT with thousands dying in seconds. Then at 9:03 United Airlines Flight 175 crashed into the Empire State Building exploding with just the same amount energy. At 9:37 American Airlines Flight 77 crashed into the Pentagon which had already been evacuated. Finally at 10:03 United Airlines Flight 93 crashed in a field southeast of Pittsburgh. President Bush raised the Defcon level from 5 to 1 all air traffic except for Millitary and Medical and Con Air flight are stopped untill further notice at least 210,000,000 people died and the war on terror began​
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210 MILLION?

That's 70% of America.
 
AbeLincoln1865

AbeLincoln1865

Shortly after the attacks it was learned that Osama Bin Ladens organization Al Qaeda had planned the attacks. The Senate vote to go into Afghanistan was unanimous. Within a month the Taliban was overthrown.That December the battle of Tora Bora was fought which ended in the capture of Bin Laden on the 13th by British-American Special Forces. In July in 2002 he was sentenced to death. In the March of 2003 American troops began the invasion of Iraq charging that it had WMDs. Even though this was disproved it was popular with the American people. In 2004 Bush won reelection in a landslide over John Kerry. In 2008 John McCain was elected over Barrack Obama.
 
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Abe Lincoln1865 said:
Shortly after the attacks itwas learned that Osama Bin Ladens organization Al Qaeda had planned the attacks. The Senate vote to go into Afghanistan was unanimous. Within a month the Taliban was overthrown.That December the battle of Tora Bora was fought which ended in the capture of Bin Laden on the 13th by British-American Special Forces. That July in 2002 he was sentenced to death. In the March of 2003 American troops began the invasion of Iraq charging that it had WMDs. Even though this was disproved it was popular with the American people. In 2004 Bush won reelection in a landslide over John Kerry. In 2008 John McCain was elected over Barrack Obama.
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How will they find Osama quicker? If any, the nuclear bombs will make everyone even more irrational and the US expeditionary force will completely disregard civilians altogether. Afghanistan will be even more "unwinnable".

Or, they invade without dealing with the Northern Alliance first and thus fight them as well. Probably ten times as many US casualties, but then you'd have a military government with much less corruption and no rampant opium production.
 

Tirion

admkenshin said:
How will they find Osama quicker? If any, the nuclear bombs will make everyone even more irrational and the US expeditionary force will completely disregard civilians altogether. Afghanistan will be even more "unwinnable".

Or, they invade without dealing with the Northern Alliance first and thus fight them as well. Probably ten times as many US casualties, but then you'd have a military government with much less corruption and no rampant opium production.
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Aggreed.

Also, Iraq: it'd go just as IOTL, I don't see why people would elect McCain instead of Obama. After 7 years of unending and increasingly futile war, just as IOTL, they'd be more than willing to give a chance to other approaches.
 
AbeLincoln1865

AbeLincoln1865

For one Bush is more determined in capturing Osama and with it being nuclear people like the invasion more thats what i have to say
 

Scott_B

I would imagine that, given that 4 nuclear weapons have detonated on US soil, the pressure for a nuclear counter attack, even though there is no conventional enemy to target, will be overwhelming among the US population...
 

the_lyniezian

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Will the people seeking blood, demand the USA to nuke the Masjid_al-Haram in Mecca and the Al-Masjid al-Nabawi in Medina, because "it's Filthy muslim terrorists and we must convert them to the light of Jesus!!!" and maybe bomb Temple Mount to clear it of the Dome of the Rock as so to build the third Jewish temple
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They might call for some of them, but don't forget Jerusalem is closely associated with Israel and few would want that nuking, and both Mecca and Medina are in Saudi Arabia, also so far as I know an ally- you don't want to be pissing off Suadi Arabia (bye bye oil...). (Not to mention actually pissing off pretty much the entire rest of the Muslim world and risking the ire of the interational community, and possibly starting WW3! Way to radicalise a lot more Muslims in your own country- remember it's only a militant minority, not the whole of the Muslims.)

No chance you'd actually get the US government or any other nation willing to attack there.
 
mandrke

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the_lyniezian said:
They might call for some of them, but don't forget Jerusalem is closely associated with Israel and few would want that nuking
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that's why we are only using conventional bombs for Temple Mount!


the_lyniezian said:
both Mecca and Medina are in Saudi Arabia, also so far as I know an ally- you don't want to be pissing off Suadi Arabia (bye bye oil...).
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But... the house of Saud are best friends with the bin Laden family. They support fundamentalist islam, They are not democratic, and worst of all... They are not Evangelist Christian!!! and surely NATO can invade hold Saudi Arabia and possibly transfer it to Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Iraq, or Turkey! </teabagger-rant>



NOTE: I do not support the rant above.
 

rvbomally

If the US decides to be insane and nuke Islam's holy cities, they'd go whole hog and incinerate the entire Middle East. Because really, what you're proposing is a government that is willing to have an entire culture declare war on it. Whoever these guys are, they wouldn't be adverse to the idea of genocide.
 

Alexius I Kommenos

mandrke said:
that's why we are only using conventional bombs for Temple Mount!



But... the house of Saud are best friends with the bin Laden family. They support fundamentalist islam, They are not democratic, and worst of all... They are not Evangelist Christian!!! and surely NATO can invade hold Saudi Arabia and possibly transfer it to Jordan, Egypt, Israel, Iraq, or Turkey! </teabagger-rant>



NOTE: I do not support the rant above.
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Ahahaha unfortunatly the US can't do much about the Saudis. See the US oil companies have billions of dollars invested in Saudi Arabia, so due to heavy buisness interests in the Middle east I doubt the US would attack the Saudis. You see the Saudis are also the only real US ally besides Turkey in the middle east and we have vital contracts with them. Think of it like the US-Pakistan relationship. So no nukes there. Also it would be political suicide becaus many countries will be shocked at what occured. Plus over a billion people across the World practice Islam it is the second largest relegion next to Christianity. So the following events would not be pretty for the US.


About the reaction I agree completly with the above posters:)
 

Wyragen-TXRG4P

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No UN, the US would launch a cruise missile attack with thermonuclear warheads on Afghanistan, to cripple al-Quaida as swiftly as possible before more attacks are launched.
 
Doragon

Doragon

I'm more interested in the response from middle east countries. In OTL, they basically all got together and said, "do what you need to do, we will even help."

In this TL, three (or four - did the Phili plane blow as well?) nukes have just gone off on US soil. I can imagine those same middle east countries pissing themselves and then flooding the White House with "pleases don't kill us calls."

The down side to an enemy using a nuclear weapon on the US, is that America will HAVE TO response in kind. Otherwise, we will look like the weak country they belived us to be. At the same time, the only targets are in civilian heavy locations. Not exactly good news.

The interesting thing is, that if done right, a terrorist attack on this scale would rally the world together, and lead us to a united world government. But only if it could be used correctly. If could just as easily lead to a massive disotopic future.
 
Tovarich

Tovarich

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Jim Smitty said:
Bush would break out the football, and give the go codes. Afghstan would become a grown waste bed within hours.
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And AlQuaeda just carry on, because they work on the cell system and are not 'based' in Afghanistan, or anywhere else, come to that.

Could the US maybe arrange to shut down the WWW* and mobile-phone networks worldwide, even temporarily, to prevent the cells operating?

I know that seems ASB, but we are on the ASB board, after all;)



*(NOOOOOO!!! My beloved pornography! All gone.....:eek:)
 
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