3rd Countries of an Alternate World Thread

nakum

Official Name: Reino de Castilla, Santo Domingo, San Juan, las Antillas, Cuba y Ceilán
Common Names: Castille
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy (parliamentary democracy)
Capital: Valladolid
Head of State: King Juan-Carlos XVI
Population: 122 million
Languages: Castillian, Sinhala
Religion: Catholic Christianity, Buddhism
Founding date: county-850, kingdom-1002, Crown (unification w/ Leon)- 1247
Date of maximum extent: 1944
Date of current borders: 1971
Map:
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Castille has gradually been letting its colonies free since 1944. The former colonies still remaining have voted to become full members of the Kingdom of Castille as regiónes de ultramar, overseas regions
 
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jmberry

Xwarq said:
Also, I just realized that Islam wouldn't exist in this world. So replace that with Judaism.

this also needs to have Judaism, as Islam wouldn't exist.
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Why wouldn't Islam exist, and why would Judaism replace it when Nestorian or Miaphysite Christianity or Zoroastrianism make more since for a Middle Eastern Religion?
 

Khazar

What do you think about the little piece (not 'peace' :p ) of history I proposed? And about the 2 countries I added?
 

Zuvarq

Khazar said:
What do you think about the little piece (not 'peace' :p ) of history I proposed? And about the 2 countries I added?
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The history is good but...

La Plata is a 'big' nation. New Portugal/Andes is also a 'big' nation. You're only allowed to have one 'big' nation.

So we're continuing from the Castille map. Although Castille is borderline big and small, I'll let it slide.



Can you change the color of Castile back to yellow? the blue is too similar to Sweden.
 

Eigenwelt

Kingdom of the Three Sicilies

Official Name: Regno dei Tre Sicilie (Kingdom of the Three Sicilies)
Common Names: Tre Sicilie, Kingdom of Naples (to the chagrin of the other two Sicilies)
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: Permanent seat of Government - Naples. Regional capitals at Porto Adrano (otl Palermo) and Annuziata. The King's official residence rotates every 4 months, Mar-Jun Spring Palace in Naples, Jul-Oct Autumn Palace in Porto Adrano, and Nov-Feb Winter Palace in Annuziata.
Head of State: Ercole II, King of Naples, King of Sicily, and Grand Duke of South Sicily
Population: 31,476,000
Languages: Tritalian (Napul-scilian hybrid); enclaves of traditional Napulitano, Sicilianu, Calabrese; Latin; minority Hebrew; pockets of Greek, Punic, and French
Religion: Roman Catholic 69%, Liparine Catholicism 23%, Jewish 6%, 1% Neo-phoenician, 1% Muslim and other
Founding date: Kingdom of Sicily 1130-1282, Two Sicilies 1315-1768, Three Sicilies 1768-Present
Date of maximum extent: 1763
Date of current borders: 1911
Map and flag:
La Bandiera dei Vulcani Gemelli
(The flag of the Twin Volcanoes; Etna and Vesuvius)
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My premise is that the norman conquest of Sicily goes off as per OTL, and the subsequent history of the Kingdom of Sicily and Naples goes as it did unchanged straight untill the Sicilian Vespers in 1282. At this point butterflies from our general POD kick in begin to change things. Charles II and his son Robert the Wise do much better and reconquer Sicily by 1315. This comes by pouring of much of Robert's older brother Charles' strength in Hungary into the fight. It eventually costs the younger Charles his life and the family's hold on Hungary, but sets up a continuing Angevin hold in the Two Sicilies. Robert as King of Naples also is titular King of Jerusalem and this brings the Two Sicilies into conflict with the Crusader Kingdoms on and off for the next 500 years. When they aren't allies against a third party, the various wars against their southern Christian brothers do little for the Sicilian Kings but gain what eventually becomes Southern Sicily (otl eastern Algeria).


Edit: I realize that I have (poorly) used standard otl Italian as a stand in for Tritalian, despite the fact that it is based off of northern dialects and not the southern ones that exist in my country. My facilities with Napulitano is even worse than my limited Italian.

Also, World War Z, I have set my maximum and current boundary dates close to yours, thinking that we could have a shared border dispute/war at one or various points. I'm thinking specifically in north Africa.
 
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Saya Aensland

Official Name: Commonwealth of New Corsica and New Sardinia
Common Names: New Corsica and New Sardinia, Xīnsā​dīng (New Sardinia)
Government Type: Parliamentary republic
Capital: New Milan (New Corsica, OTL Taipei), Haikou (New Sardinia)
Head of State: Doge Alessandro Cassinelli, Governor Giovanni Ottiano
Population: 31,180,000
Languages: New Corsica: Venetian, Amis, Atayal, Paiwan. New Sardinia: Genoan, Gotiano, Min Nan Chinese (though it's probably not called that ITTL)
Religion: Catholicism, Buddhism
Founding date: 1501, self-governance 1864
Date of maximum extent: 1540
Date of current borders: 1540

I don't know if you can see the Venetian-Genoan blue border in there, but I assure you, it's there.

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Jack London

Official Name: The Apache Nation
Common Names: The Great Plains
Government Type: A union of tribal leaders ruled by an elected chief
Capital: no fixed capital
Head of State: Chief Goyahkla
Population: 900,000
Languages: Athabaskan, and less common tribal dialects
Religion: traditional apache religion
Founding date: 1892
Date of maximum extent: 1896
Date of current borders: 1966

As i cant post maps I will simply write the territory that my nations have- As much of the southwest as is possible for a small nation (sorry to be vague) :(
 

Eigenwelt

Jack London said:
Official Name: The Apache Nation

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As i cant post maps I will simply write the territory that my nations have- As much of the southwest as is possible for a small nation (sorry to be vague) :(
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Jack, what about this? I started with the current Apache lands in Arizona, and added the rest of the Valley of the Sun (Phoenix metro), and then used the Gila River as a north west border (untill it hits the lowerColorado), the Sonora River to the south east, and the Rio Grande as an eastern border. It gives the Apache nation the southwestern quarter of New Mexico, the bottom half of Arizona, and most of the Mexican state of Sonora. And most importantly, it gives alot of Gulf of California (Apache Gulf?) coastline so we can have the awesome ATL Apache Navy.

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Splatter123

okay my turn :D

Official Name: The Greater Union of Asian Peoples
Common Names: Siam, Indochina
Government Type: Pure Socialism
Capital: No official capitol
Head of State: The People
Population: 1,009,032,078
Languages: Thai (base language), Laotian, Khmer, Burmese, Malay
Religion: None
Founding date: 1941
Date of maximum extent: 1963
Date of current borders:1978
 
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Nusantara

Official Name: The United Kingdom of Srivijaya
Common Names: Srivijaya, Malaya
Government Type: Constitutional Monarchy
Capital: Palembang (though with population of OTL Jakarta)
Other Large Cities: Singapura, Sunda Kalapa (OTL Jakarta, population OTL Palembang), Medan, New Riau (OTL Ho Chi Minh City)
Head of State: Rajah Raden (R.R) Balaputra XII
Population: 83,344,224
Languages: Srivijayan (OTL Malay), Vietnamese, Tamil, Thai, Burmese
Religion: Buddhism, Hinduism, Christianity
Founding date: 1379
Date of maximum extent: 1797
Date of current borders: 1911
Current Territory: Sumatra, West Java, Malaysian Peninsula, Coasts of South and East Borneo, Parts of Southern and Eastern Thailand, Mekong River delta, and Southern Myanmar (land outside the Sumatran, Javanese, and Malay peninsula area Sumatra, Java, Borneo, and the Malay Peninsula are considered 'outer territories' - mostly former colonies)

Map:
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(It would be cool if the East and West were both equally advanced, and both had colonies in the America's and Africa. That way it would be like two different types of colonial powers, and both would fight eachother, along with their neighbors. So there would be Asian spheres of influence as well as European)

EDIT: added map to make territory description easier

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jmberry

Okay, I replaced Islam with Hinduism, but if there's no Islam, then that Crusader nation needs to be removed.
 

Saya Aensland

Official Name: Sámi Republic
Common Names: Sápmi
Government Type: Socialist parliamentary republic
Capital: Čáhcesuolu (OTL Vadsø)
Head of State: Aslak Akmeeli
Population: 123,000
Languages: Sámi, Swedish
Religion: Protestant Christianity
Founding date: 1952
Date of maximum extent: 1952
Date of current borders: 1952

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Eigenwelt

Ok, I updated the map so it's fixed.

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Also, I noticed that I forgot to mention why Ischia and Capri are green on my map.

Official Name: Cavalieri Azzurri della Insigne Reale Ordine di San Gennaro sulle Isole Corazzate (Blue Knights of the Illustrious Royal Order of Saint Gennaro on the Armored Isles)
Common Names: The Armored Isles, The Knight Islands, The Blue Islands
Capital: Castelo Solaro
Head of State: Pio Generale Amerigo Marigliano; Population sworn allegiance to: Ercole II, King of Naples, King of Sicily, and Grand Duke of South Sicily.
Population: 91,000
Languages: Tritalian (Napul-scilian hybrid); Latin
Religion: Roman Catholic 91%, Liparine Catholicism 8%, Jewish and other < 1%
Founding date: as Order 1399, as independent entity 1602
Date of maximum extent: 1763
Date of current borders: 1880
Map and flag and shield:
Location on either side of the Bay of Naples
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Shield of the Order
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Flag of the Order
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Politically independant of the Three Sicilies since 1602, they are the official bodyguards of the King and work in tandem with the military proper. Their political independence is a defacto insulation against direct oversight by the Sicilian legislature.
 
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karl2025

Official Name: Islamic Tartar Republic
Common Names: Tartaristan, Crimea
Government Type: Islamic Theocracy
Capital: Sevastopol
Head of State: Mustafa Abdulcemil Qirmoglu
Population: 5 Million
Languages: Crimean
Religion: Islamic
Founding date: 988, 1512, 1855, 1945, 1979
Date of maximum extent: 1000
Date of current borders: 1979
Map:



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Iserlohn

So, here is a small country!

Official Name: Helvetian Federation of The Alpines
Common Names: Helvetia; Alpine Federation
Government Type: Socialist Federal Republic
Capital: Genava
Head of State: Adolf Elwmann
Population: 8,694,650
Languages: German; Latin; Celtic
Religion: Lutheran; Catholic; Celtic
Founding date: 77BC
Date of maximum extent: 69AD
Date of current borders: 73AD

Map:
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