2018 Turtledoves - Best Cold War to Contemporary Timeline Poll FINAL

[SsgtC]

Huh, I've only ever seen that in a Dirk Pitt novel.

It was not a good novel.

I remember that book. Not one of Cussler's better efforts

 

[Artaxerxes]

I remember that book. Not one of Cussler's better efforts

The first Cusslers were ok but he definitely began to phone em in and publish any old crap.

 

[Redcoat]

This. All of this.

If the PoD is the US presidential election of 1960, I fail to see how Mandela, who was over forty at the time, and involved in liberation politics since the second world war, would change his mind on such a fundamental topic as apartheid.

A reader of the TL would know it's with the death of a Cabinet member of Eisenhower in 1958 but whatever

 

[King of the Uzbeks]

A reader of the TL would know it's with the death of a Cabinet member of Eisenhower in 1958 but whatever

The point still stands.

 

[Gordian]

A reader of the TL would know it's with the death of a Cabinet member of Eisenhower in 1958 but whatever

That still doesn't change anything he said about Mandela being over forty at the time of the PoD and already deeply involved in liberation politics to a degree that it's very implausible for him to change his mind on such a fundamental issue.

EDIT: Didn't see CalBear's post, my apologies. I'll delete this if necessary.

 

[Redcoat]

That still doesn't change anything he said about Mandela being over forty at the time of the PoD and already deeply involved in liberation politics to a degree that it's very implausible for him to change his mind on such a fundamental issue.

EDIT: Didn't see CalBear's post, my apologies. I'll delete this if necessary.

While the point about Mandela is true, and has been proven many times over here, seeing how this is an American politics oriented TL I can forgive inaccuracies

Edit: also didn't see that comment

 

[skaven]

You have NO IDEA how little I want to get involved in another one of these threads. That being said folks are creating a situation where I'm going to have to act.

Stop now gang. Be a bad thing if I have to come back here.

Just for clarity, does this mean we should watch our language, or lay off discussion of NDCR all together?

 

[von Mises]

While the point about Mandela is true, and has been proven many times over here, seeing how this is an American politics oriented TL I can forgive inaccuracies

There's inaccuracy and then there's pulling stuff out of certain orafices.

 

[Redcoat]

There's inaccuracy and then there's pulling stuff out of certain orafices.

I mean I haven't seen any complaints about how the U.S. itself is handled anyways.

 

[CoDurham]

Voted for NDCR simply because of Nixon winning in 60.

 

[CalBear]

Just for clarity, does this mean we should watch our language, or lay off discussion of NDCR all together?

It means everyone needs to be civil to each other, debate the facts, and play the ball.

 

[TheImperialTheorist]

 

[Sulemain]

I mean I haven't seen any complaints about how the U.S. itself is handled anyways.

It's a globe spanning timeline nominated for a Turtledove. It's going to be scrutinised as such.

 

[King of the Uzbeks]

It's a globe spanning timeline nominated for a Turtledove. It's going to be scrutinised as such.

Also I'm pretty sure MLK did something similar to Mandela.

 

[skaven]

I mean I haven't seen any complaints about how the U.S. itself is handled anyways.

We can talk about the Jane Fonda plotline if you want, but I'm not sure it reflects better on the TL than anything else.

 

[Seleucus]

So I heard that we campaign by making memes.

You kind of need to read the story to fully understand this one.

 

[TheImperialTheorist]

 

[Callan]

Vote Presidential

 

[TheImperialTheorist]

 

[AvatarOfKhaine]

So I heard that we campaign by making memes.

You kind of need to read the story to fully understand this one.

I'd like to sue for libelous use of my own image. (And for not using the best artwork of me)