holy league

  1. GameBawesome

    WI: No Battle of Lepanto

    Context: The Battle of Lepanto is said to be one of the greatest Victory of Europeans over the growing Ottoman Empire in the 16th Century. It is pointed to be the decline of the Ottomans, which isn’t really true, but we’ll get there. The Holy League failed to capitalize on that victory, and in...
  2. Great Turkish War: How much could the Ottomans lose?

    The Great Turkish War lasted from 1683 to 1699 and ended with the Ottomans being expelled from Hungary and the Morea IOTL. However, the Holy League troops marched as far south as Nis (in Serbia) and Macedonia before being driven back to the north of the Danube, and there were uprisings in...
  3. AdamNeuser

    Ottoman victory during the War of the Holy League (1683-1699) [Ongoing short TL]

    So this alternate history TL is going to be fairly short but I just wanted to see if it could be explored and how plausible you guys think it actually could be. Before we discuss the point of divergence (it isn't the battle of vienna, the Ottomans still lose this as they did in OT), and the...
  4. Mr_Fanboy

    Safavid Iran attacks the Ottoman Empire in the wake of the Battle of Vienna

    I am not an expert on either the history of the Ottoman Empire or Persia, but I found this paragraph from the Wikipedia article on the Battle of Vienna to be very interesting... So, what if the Shah, reasoning that this will be his best country's shot of taking back Baghdad for a while, had...
  5. WI: The Holy League prevents the Ottoman conquest of Cyprus?

    Though the Battle of Lepanto was a significant defeat for the Ottoman Empire, it was a much less severe blow to them than losing Cyprus was to the Republic of Venice. Ottoman Grand Vizier Mehmed Sokullu boasted to Venetian emissary Marcantonio Barbaro that it was the difference between a shaved...
  6. Lepanto tactics

    So reading about the battle of Lepanto, one of the things that stood out to me was the importance of reserves; the Christians were able to hold off the Ottoman left's attempted envelopment long enough for their right to return to action thanks to their reserve. By contrast, the Ottomans had...
  7. Ottomans vs Christendom

    I have a question about the relative power of the Ottomans vs the combined might of their usual Christian opponents in the 16th and 17th centuries. So whenever the Christian Europeans managed to rally behind a single cause they seemed to beat the Ottomans fairly handily. For example the Battle...
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