An Age of Miracles Continues: The Empire of Rhomania
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He isn't quite yet the Lord of Asia.
Oh Look. Time to change that.
Roman Empire from The Alps to Samarkand!
Why not, trying to be friendly and earn the West's respect has brought nothing but pain and misery as the Catholic powers always find an excuse to attack. It seems Odysseus has decided he very much agrees that if Rhomania can't be loved it will damn well be feared by the West.
He isn't quite yet the Lord of Asia.
Oh Look. Time to change that.
I'm totally self-quoting, but I'm actually legit curious as to what sort of War Room Scenario the Romans could come up with for this. If we go with 'Area of Influence' rather than Direct Rule, it'd be really interesting to have the Romans work on Mandarazan going to Georgia, and establishing a Romano-Mongol Transoxiana client state. Be cool to see the Sideros have a scion in Samarkand. Plus an ally to help in Asia and against the Ottomans is always a good thing.
Well we do know that Greek is the premier language of science, especially physics, in the future. Not to mention a major cultural and economic language for Eastern Europe and Southern Asia right now so I bet it likely has a spot similar to OTL Spanish or French if not English.
All those Turks in Mesopotamia abandoned by the Ottomans during their time pursuing their love of all things Persian seems like a good start
If Hungarians are cool for a few generations, their relationship with the HRE will take at least double that amount of time to recover. I think it will never go back to their former levels - Hungarians immensely distrusted all over Germany and known for their betrayal that cost them the war.
I'm not sure if this has been discussed yet - but maybe once the storm in Europe settles down a little and it becomes clear that both the Triunes and Romans aren't budging from their spots as European hegemons, they could form a new entente like the Ottomans and France did IOTL. They are still allied to TTL Ottomans, but then again stranger things have happened and it isn't impossible for more diplomatic leaders after Henri and Odysseus to realize the benefits of mutual cooperation once their spheres of influence have been properly delineated, especially as they share no common borders and ambitions aside from (still minor) commercial interests in the East
Wow, I wouldn't have imagined that Roman Catholicism would be suffering their current fate at the beginning of TTL. Avignon is poised to take over as the primary representative of Catholicism for a while. Roman Catholicism having lost most of its international authority and prestige and now being subservient to Bohemia renders them a secondary power at best and a tool of Ottokar to increase his influence, instead of being a force themselves.
its becoming a regular habit to kill the pope and crush the ottomans every 10-40 years. I hope it creates strong national traditions
I feel like the first time they killed the Pope it was justified but this time it just feels like Ody is a sociopath- just my opinion
Constantinople, 2019
Emperor Demetrios VI wakes up and in a haze taps his Oracle watch. A blue hologram appears in the front of his opulent bedroom. It is Athena, his personal assistant A.I.
"Morning Basileus! Would you like to hear your schedule for today?" The Emperor waved a hand yes while buttering up the toast that was left right before he woke up.
"You have to dedicate another Kalomeros-class heavy cruiser at 1 PM over at the Arsenal. Oh, and it is 39 years to the day since the Seventh Sacking of Rome. You know the tradition sir. Every 40 years we have to kill the Pope and/or burn Baghdad to the ground."
Demetrios looked up in surprise. "It has been 39 years already?! Seems like yesterday we were executing the College of Cardinals. Time flies, huh Athena?"
"Yes sir, 39 years ago today," Athena repeated in the neutral tone she was programmed with. "And my programming measures time in equal units so I can't answer your question sir."
"Very well, call the Megas Domestikos and tell him to prepare a plan to invade Rome again. I won't be the Emperor who breaks one of Rhomania's longest-held traditions. Is there anything else?"
"One more thing sir, the Patriarch has a special request for some land near..."
End Scene
Ody has heartlessly murdered many innocent people that mean nothing to him, its for those murders i would view him as a sociopath. Murdering a powerful figure that has financed a war against the roman empire doesn't seem that sociopathic
man i'm kinda bummed out i only have one like to give
Evilprodigy
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This makes me think of what EU4 National ideas Rhome picked.
Quantity, offensive/quality, administrative, and probably diplomatic.
I have to ask, how is killing the Pope every 40 years "diplomatic"?
Evilprodigy
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In EU4 'national traditions' is the first bonus a country gets in its 'national ideas,' with more gathered by adopting other 'idea groups' that allow you to specialize your country towards your gameplay style but also show some historical element to it.
That the phrase 'national tradition' was in that post just made me think of EU4. Diplomatic is an idea group that'd be for the general abilities of the state.
"all orthodox countries now love you more and egg you on when you kill the pope again"
Thanks. I have played EU4 previously, but not for a year or two. I probably should have put a smiley after my comment. I still find the idea of assassinating the Pope as a national tradition yielding a diplomatic idea group amusing. I would have thought of it as a permanent casus belli with catholic countries.
A larger question, I wonder if Rhomania is going to be analogous to the OTL UK and US or to countries like France, Germany, and Russia? The US has not been successfully invaded since the war of 1812. The British haven't been successfully invaded since 1066. France and Germany have lost wars and rebuilt themselves on multiple occasions even into the 1900s.
I am still catching up on the TL but I gather Rhomania was invaded in the last 10 years (1625-35) and crushed its opponents. I wonder if that was the last time or will another power manage to seriously threaten them again?
I am still catching up on the TL but I gather Rhomania was invaded in the last 10 years (1625-35) and crushed its opponents. I wonder if that was the last time or will another power manage to seriously threaten them again?