I don't know if this has already been answered, but how much progress have the Romans made on recovering the artifacts stolen during the Fourth Crusade?
I don't know if this has already been answered, but how much progress have the Romans made on recovering the artifacts stolen during the Fourth Crusade?
B444 also mentioned that will be one of the updates coming soon, about Rhomania getting back as much of it's lost legacy.I don't know if this has already been answered, but how much progress have the Romans made on recovering the artifacts stolen during the Fourth Crusade?
B444 also mentioned that will be one of the updates coming soon, about Rhomania getting back as much of it's lost legacy.
I meant physical legacy such as the artifacts that were looted post 1204.See, this does leave me at a loss here. We don't exactly have a situation to get the undisputed title of Roman Emperor as well, that treaty has already been signed.
The Romans can't really get their old borders back without taking on Spain, the Truines, and Arles.
What part of their legacy is it going to be at the moment? Ending the Schism and having Europe choose Roman Orthodoxy? That seems mad.
The Romans have a long history of madlad Emperors though right.What part of their legacy is it going to be at the moment? Ending the Schism and having Europe choose Roman Orthodoxy? That seems mad.
Yeah, and how come none have been named Basil? The other two Basil's that became emperor were some of their best.The Romans have a long history of madlad Emperors though right.
Basil II conquered Bulgaria, John II Tzimiskes could have conquered much of the Levant had he not died suddenly of illness. Konstantinos XI managed to both reclaim the Morea and rebuild the Hexamillion Walls in the 15th century. Justinian and Belisarius practically steamrolled the West until the Persians invaded. Heraclius single-handedly fought the Persians and restored the Empire after its near destruction at the hands of the Sassanids. Mare Nostrum must be restored and Italy needs to be "liberated" from the fake Romans and brought back into the Roman fold. Renovatii Imperii or bust!
Hey @Basileus444 how come no other Emperors were named Justinian III or took up Ioustinianos as their regnal name upon their coronation? Is the name seen as inauspicious or something?
Imagine having to live up to those legacies? I wouldn't want to put that on my kid.Yeah, and how come none have been named Basil? The other two Basil's that became emperor were some of their best.
Imagine having to live up to those legacies? I wouldn't want to put that on my kid.
More seriously it is likely coincidence. There were a hilarious number of Constantines after all.
They’ve only had 11 Constantines in AaoM. Although a Michael X would be appreciated.I vote for Emperor Andreas Basileus Constantine. Third, Third, and uh.... 13th? Of his name?
They’ve only had 11 Constantines in AaoM. Although a Michael X would be appreciated.
Laughs in French....How about another Demetrios? *smirks malevolently* "Do it."
But really, isn't half the fun of founding an empire giving half your descendants the same name as you?
Has King's Harbour grown enough to place it in the Top 10 cities worldwide in terms of population or wealth? (Maybe the larger metropolitan area together with Dover has). Either way, if the Triunes manage to stay together for a couple more hundred years added to the accelerated technology ITTL, I foresee the Chunnel being built in the 19th century.Triune court is based in King's Harbour
Something akin although distinct to how Greek was to Latin in the OG Roman Empire?uplift the English language to levels of prestige in government, culture, and science
Really depends on how successful naval looting is compared to the sacking of cities then.will not compensate for the loss of treasure
King's Harbour is located in OTL Le Havre IIRC.Has King's Harbour grown enough to place it in the Top 10 cities worldwide in terms of population or wealth? (Maybe the larger metropolitan area together with Dover has). Either way, if the Triunes manage to stay together for a couple more hundred years added to the accelerated technology ITTL, I foresee the Chunnel being built in the 19th century.
Sorta.Something akin although distinct to how Greek was to Latin in the OG Roman Empire?
Makes me wonder if the Triunes don't have the historic French animosity towards emigration to the Americas. 10,000 immigrants from France compared to 380,000 from Britain during the seventeenth century is pitifully small.Are the triune mainland colonies mostly English speaking? I'd personally expect that while the island colonies be mostly french speaking.
Long-term post development of Nationalism the Triune state is 100% doomed. National identities will appear, they will demand rights, they will cause problems for the government, and they will have to eventually grant independence or concessions in some form. There are simply too many English and Irish for that and they are too geographically concentrated to be a minority that must toe the line due to being so outclassed like the Bretons, Welsh, Sorbs, Basques, Frisians, and other small minority groups within larger countries. However the form that this independence takes does not necessarily mean the end of the Triune state. The Romans will be developing a federal empire of sorts based around the framework of the despotates so there is no reason that the Trinues cannot do the same with England, France, Ireland, and their independent colonies. The resulting empire of one crown and many autonomous kingdoms/dominions could likely be perceived as one 'empire' in the modern TTL sense of the word. We IOTL may consider it many closely aligned independent countries but with a theoretical precedent of this sort of imperial power bloc presented by the Romans and Triunes this sort of inter-state compact could simply be perceived by TTL people as the modern expression of empire in a post-national age.
I'm honestly hoping for a more unstable Triune state. I think it would lead to more interesting outcomes. Though I will agree religious conformity, if it stays that way, will be a binding force that will be hard to break prior to something akin to OTL 20th century.This is actually quite unlikely given some of the reasons you mentionned earlier in your post. It has been mentioned before that the Triple Monarchy has a single state religion. This will be a very powerful unifying force and there won't be the Catholic/Protestant divide that plagued the relationship between Great Britain and Ireland for example.
There's also been mention before in the threads that the Trinue colonies overseas are seeing the emergence of a local language that combines English, French and Irish. This makes sense given who the makeup the colonist is going to be.
Another hugely powerful unifying force lies in the horizon too. The industrial revolution. Just like it played a part in unifying the United Kingdom, it can do the same here on a larger scale. There's iron ore in Normandy, it wasn't much used OTL despite the potential but it will very likely be used TTL. The coal will come by boat from South Wales or Northern England. Kings Landing will become a centre of commerce but other cities like Caen could become centres of Industry TTL. Nomandy's may not become the Rhur but it could definitely become as industrialised as Northern England was OTL. The region is ideal for textile industry as it has a large population and rivers aplenty.
OTL France and England already have far more in common culturally than they realise, especially between Southern England and Northern France. The differences will be even fewer TTL as all OTL influences from southern France will be non-existent. Consider some of the likely changes from OTL:
- The national drink of France may not be wine but cider or beer OTL. Most of the wineyards of Bordeaux along to another country
- A lot of items traditionally associated with French cuisine are from southern France, ratatouille, roquefort, truffles etc. Potatoes, wheat and beef will be the dominant staple on both sides of the Channel. TTL French cuisine will be a lot more "English" than OTL ...
- Northern France has a sort of common law system OTL. Southern France has a Roman law based system. Therefore, dominant legal tradition in the Triple Kingdom will be common law based. Roman law will be seen as something alien and foreign.
The eventual political structure of the Triple Kingdom could vary from a unitary state to a more likely federation or near federation that includes the overseas parts of the Empire.