Your Ideal South America Borders?

My rough ideal would be:

- Welsh / Darien / Celtic Patagonia plus Los Lagos (along with maybe Araucanía, Bío Bío and Maule)
- Brazil with access to the Pacific via possibly central Peru
- Some version of Gran Colombia that does not conflict with Brazil
- A Perulivian state that includes southern Peru, Bolivia and Paraguay with access to the South Atlantic via parts of Argentina (e.g. Misiones and Corrientes) and Brazil (e.g. Rio Grande do Sul)
- A leftover Argentina that includes most of Chile and possibly all of Uruguay
- British Falklands
 
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Work in progress (for several months)
Trasandino, Amazon, Peru-Bolivia are federal republics
Colombia, Oriental and Paraguay are unitary republics
Imperio de Brazil a monarchy

Some more details
1) Union de Repúblicas Trasandinas (Union of Transandean Republics) or Trasandino (Transandean) for short. National Capital Cordoba. Its four member republics are the Argentina (also called Argentine Confederation the only one to have provincial federalism), Chile, Magallanes and Patagonia. Gained territories from Peru-Bolivia from two wars, with the first war it briefly breaking apart Peru-Bolivia and help Oriental gain its independence from Brazil
2) Confederación Perú-Boliviana (Peru–Bolivian Confederation), Capital Tacna. An uneasy union of the two countries split in three federal states: Alto Peru, Bajo Peru and Bolivia. Survives mainly from the help of civil and military dictatorships or when one of the three federal states as the upper hand (most of the time North Peru)
3) Colombia, capital Bogota. Bolivar's dream that survived thanks to a pact with non federalist liberals, splinting opposition.
4) República Federativa do Amazonas (Federal República of the Amazons) Capital São Luís. Born from a liberal rebellion against Brazil that oppose federalism and republicanism. Its wealth, that helps sustain its independence, comes from rubber and the natural resources of the Amazons.
5) Império do Brasil (Empire of Brazil). Capital Rio de Janeiro. Like OTL Brazil.
6) Paraguay, Capital Asuncion. survived between its powerful neighbors thanks to an isolationist policy and because the other countries ignore or had no interest in el Chaco. Paraguay slowly and patiently expanded from its colonial boundaries to the rest of el Chaco establishing de facto its limits.
7) República Oriental Unida (United Oriental Republic). Capital Montevideo. Has passed from a confederation and federalism ending being a unitarian republic. Officially bilingual (Spanish and Portuguese) and also many also speak Portuñol. Also the land of gaucho, heavy industries and tourism, as strong financial sector. (A mix of OTL Uruguay and Rio Grande)
 
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Something like this would be fine
 
Uruguay to Brazil and Paraguay to Argentina - Brazil gets more temperate land and Argentina a (sub)tropical important area, it'll add some flavor to the area;

United Gran Colombia and United Peru-Bolivia - It would look nicer...

Chile returns the desert to Peru-Bolivia - Bad Chile!

United Guyanas + Trinidad - Because why not?
 

IFwanderer

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Uruguay to Brazil and Paraguay to Argentina - Brazil gets more temperate land and Argentina a (sub)tropical important area, it'll add some flavor to the area;
What's the point? the opposite (Uruguay to Argentina and Paraguay to Brazil) makes more sense, if anything, given Uruguay is culturally very close to Argentina.
 
What's the point? the opposite (Uruguay to Argentina and Paraguay to Brazil) makes more sense, if anything, given Uruguay is culturally very close to Argentina.

You're right. And that's pretty much because of it that this would add some interesting flavor. :p
 
Surviving Inca Empire in the Andes
Surviving Amazonian State
Maroon states along the North coast
Huguenot and morisco colonies in the Southern Cone
Coast of Brazil covered with colonies of small european states
 
Surviving Inca Empire in the Andes
Surviving Amazonian State
Maroon states along the North coast
Huguenot and morisco colonies in the Southern Cone
Coast of Brazil covered with colonies of small european states

It would be interesting to have the Moriscos or Mozarab descended communities establish a small South American state with their variant of Spanish for all intents and purposes being essentially Mozarabic written in Latin script.
 
OK, I´m suck doing maps but it was my idea so here we are
1 A united Guayana with a frontier with Venezuela in the Rio Caroni and a west Frontier with Brasil in te Rio Branco and a South Fontier in the Amazon (badly drawn here)
2 Venezuela and Colombia with a frontier with Brasil in the actual Amazon River and hiz frontier in a proyection of the Rio Negro (badly done in my map)
3 Ecuador with all actua Loreto state and the nortH of Amazonia state from Peru and the actual frontier of brasil/peru as the Ecuador/Brasil Frontier
4 Peru with all the altiplano, including Alto peru, nothing of that stupid idea of making a country to flatter Bolivar
5 Chile With the north frontier in the Ilo valley in peru and the Laguna Ajuachaya as east frontier, A south frontier with pampas in the narrow south of Chiloe, All the actual Altiplano Argentino as Chilean Territory, including Mendoza, Argentina without any Andes
6 Pampas (oficially República de la Pampa Patagonica) With a north Frontier in the Rio Negro an all that is south of the Actual Chiloe as his Land
7 Argentina with a South Frontier With Pampas in the Rio Negro, the Paraguay Frontier in the Rio Parana, the Frontier with Chaco in the Rio Pilcomayo frontier with Peru like the actual Bolivia-Argentina Border (again badly donde here)
8.- Oriental as the union of OTL PAraguay and Rio Grande do Sul nothing more nothing less
9.- Paraguay with a Est Frontier in the Rio Paraguay a west frontier in the Rio Parana, All the way until the Atlanticf Frontier with Oriental in the Rio Uruguay Foz do Iguacu its a Paraguayan City
10.- Chaco (oficially República Democrática del Gran Chaco Americano) It´s all that is OTL Paraguayan Chaco plus the Bolivian Provinces of Pando, Beni, Santa Cruz Cochabamba and parts of the Brasilian provinces of rondonia and matto grosso
 

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Every time I see Chile mashed onto Argentina, I can't help but eyeroll. What in the world indicates that Chile can be effectively ruled from Buenos Aires? It'd be like trying to rule Hamburg from Naples; there's a bigass set of mountains and a massive amount of land between each population center. You'd have better luck trying to rule Chile from Quito or Lima, considering the giant desert between central Chile and the rest of the South American west coast that favors control via coastal power.
 
My ideal would be a single strong confederation of independent "nations" based 100% on geography and 0% on "culture" or "ethnicity". One currency, one defense force, one set of laws concerning trade and economic policy and open borders within the confederation (and outside the confederation so far as is reasonable).
 
Every time I see Chile mashed onto Argentina, I can't help but eyeroll. What in the world indicates that Chile can be effectively ruled from Buenos Aires? It'd be like trying to rule Hamburg from Naples; there's a bigass set of mountains and a massive amount of land between each population center. You'd have better luck trying to rule Chile from Quito or Lima, considering the giant desert between central Chile and the rest of the South American west coast that favors control via coastal power.

It's a bit like San Francisco being run from Washington DC.
 
It's a bit like San Francisco being run from Washington DC.

If San Francisco was a formerly separate entity and had a large, settled population that was used to ruling itself that would see those from the other side of the mountains as interlopers? Then sure.
 
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