Italy originally a central power doesn't declare neutrality and decides to invade France (before prussia does)
How does this affect WW1?
How does this affect WW1?
Prussia only changed to germany afther 1918 right?Prussia? is this meant to be pre-1900?
could you elaborate?Another consideration; depending on timing, won't sizeable entente formations be cut off when their med supply lines are cut?
Prussia only changed to germany afther 1918 right?
In some aspects You both are in right. In military matters it possible to distinguish between Navy and Army. After 1871 the Navy was matter of Germany, mostly because city states of Hamburg and Bremen. Army was mixed bag in three ways: 1) There was German Army (Deutsches Heer), what was based mostly on Prussian army. 2) Bavarians and Würtenbergians retained their army's in peacetime. 3) The war ministry that was responsible for German army was Prussian ministry of war, there was no German war ministry, even the post 1919 Weimar war ministry was based on Prussian one.No the German Empire was formed in 1871 after the victory over the French in 1870.
I imagine it depends on if the Italian offense was enough to weaken the German/French border. If so, no need to go through Belgium, less likely chance for British navy to blockade supplies to the alliance, and even if they did, it's possible more supplies come through the Mediterranean (though the British, I'd involved, would make it hard getting past Gibraltar). Either way, their manpower problem for the Western front is least temporarily solved, and they might not get bogged down with trenches.So with Italy invading france, would germany soon follow or would they focus mostly on Russia for a bid avoiding the french fortifications. Aftherall Germany seemed more interested to expand east then west.
Would the war still take as long as it did OTL.
Would brittain still get involved?
With germany clearly having a better foreign minister, how would Italy respond with a german french chirmas truce complete with the singing and a soccer match. especialy considering it would be in the german alsace lorraine region, and many of the german soldiers speak french. (in this example the german militairy actual encourgages taking picture and sends them to the press of england, america and offcourse russia)
France needed something like 4 divisions to hold down their Italian border, a drop in the bucket in terms of manpower.Is their a map somewhere where the troop positions where right before the war? Was France defending it's italian border?
Italy can't mount an offensive against the Alps without France being tied down in the north, and it's likely to be the exact same bloodbath as the Isonzo Front. Italy's only option to invade France is to invade Corsica or Tunisia (both Italian war goals) and neither option is going to be easy since it requires naval supremacy and could just as easily end up a Gallipoli-tier disaster.
France needed something like 4 divisions to hold down their Italian border, a drop in the bucket in terms of manpower.
Yes, that's after France had been decisively defeated and Paris occupied in 1940. But even in 1940 France left a sizable garrison on the Italian border.
If the Italians and Austrians can work together for a few days, they can cripple French naval power. This would force the RN to cover the Med too...while they might just send a lot of pre-dreadnoughts and hope for the best, that will be some major heartburn for the Admiralty.3. The Mediterranean is suddenly a Central powers lake. This means that France has somewhat increased trade problems and may even face actions on its Mediteranean holding. The Royal navy will want to engage the HSF decisively in order to cover both naval fronts.