WI: Sultan Cem I

Gokbay

Gokbay

WI of the sons of Mehmed II "the Conqueror" Cem had won the succession war between him and his brother Bayezid II? OTL he was defeated and went to exile in Egypt and Europe. What if he had became the Sultan?

It would butterfly Selim the Grim (well he would be born but his reign would be butterflied) and Suleiman the Magnificent (along with every other OTL Ottoman Sultan). We can't exactly speculate on Cem's successors but how would his reign differ from Bayezid? Would Bayezid go in exile like his brother? Since Janissaries mostly supported Bayezid could they be prematurely dissolved?
 
Gokbay

Gokbay

Nivek said:
Wasn't Cem even more Europhile? that might be put an even bigger focus in europe and looking european tech and ideas...
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From what I know he was definitely more Europhile than Bayezid. Probably to a fairly similar degree to his father (who clearly wanted to be a Roman Emperor and hired an Italian painter to paint a portrait of himself despite Islamic Laws). However the influence of European tech and ideas I am not sure about. Since we are talking 15th century. European Hegemony hadn't clearly become a thing yet. Ottomans took two-three more Sultans until they reached their maximum height after all. But there could definitely be more European influence.
 

Nivek

Gokbay said:
robably to a fairly similar degree to his father (who clearly wanted to be a Roman Emperor and hired an Italian painter to paint a portrait of himself despite Islamic Laws).
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Wonder if he would focus that idea too, and like Moonlight on a Jar, they focused as the new dynasty of the roman empire than a new empire itself
 
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